Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

[Sol Invictus]

I take both views.

When i am in the mountains in deep midwinter, I prepare, check, test and check and test again to make sure every thing and anything I am carrying is working.

Trusting it to work is not knowing it will work.

Big difference.

Secondly, survival.

If a huge flood hit a city, who would be better prepared? the man who has alot of stored wtaer and food along side a boat, or the man who trusted every thing would be OK? See Texas coast and New Orleans for your answer...

BUT......


Instincts. Trust them over every thing else. I have led a life guided by instinct and 'feeling' and it has kept me always in the right place at the right time, or out of the wrong place at the wrong time.

What i am trying to say is that yes, do what 'feels' right, but prepare for a world where things go wrong.

[Carrie Todd]

I agree that preparation is important; therefore, I'll check out Historycirces's thread. I also believe that a sound mind and a peaceful heart are necessary in any avenue you take, as well as, however you approach whatever is coming. Peace be to you.

Here are some good sites:

http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/RedLettersIntro.htm
(where to go to be safe before TSHTF)

http://www.underground-hip-hop-mixta...ail.aspx?ID=52
(how to prepare for food shortages)

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/cgi-b...1;t=044387;p=1
(this guy lived through the economic meltdown in Argentina in '01, and has much practical, hard-earned knowledge)

http://hfes.org.au/
(these folks are all about raising vibrations to avert cataclysm, based on thousands of years-old teachings of Hermes Trismegistus, and their technology is based on blessed energies. It's hard to explain but works miraculously well.)

and of course:
http://www.whatthebleep.com/


Over the last six months I've been purging all my possessions, giving them to friends, to Freecyclye, to charity shops, keeping only the essentials. I feel so much lighter, and ready. I'm waiting for my house sale to go through, and then I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is and make a new start - be the change I want to see! I've spent the last two weeks looking on the internet for guidance and support. With Mercury Retrograde it really feels like now is the time to firm up and get serious about these plans, and trust our intuition.

The future will be miraculous, but you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!

Glad to know there are brothers and sisters out there.

[martina]

I think this is the quintessence of our existence.
I live in Amsterdam, below sealevel, but I will not move, before I have no fear at all, and even than, I don't know, if I go.
We must be prepared to give up our lifes to be alive.
Now Mankind has to make a choice : being a slave or being free.
This is what it is all about.

[Oneness]

Originally Posted by Stinkhorn

I have been reported for speaking what needs to be said, survival is the only way. Do you really think that spirituality will save you...ha no way.

There are people like me that will own you, I will come to your house because you are weak and will take everything from you, In essense, I will own you.

Guns, training and the will to do whatever it takes will own you.

You cannot will me or others away, we will not stop until we have what you posses. If you are not prepared to fight, you will lose.

Do you think the government will let you do whatever you want, they will be first, they will round you up and make an example of you. They do not care about you, only themselves.

We are talking about the survival of all humans, dancing around a drum circle will not stop anything but your own life. Hide, evade and survive, that is the way to make it.

Surviving is directly proportionate to 3rd dimensional conciousness. I beleive it's called the egoistic mind. Energy stemming from that which is said to be the reptilian part of our brain.

...fast forward this clip to 2:10...and watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNsosU0fXy0

Quoting Morpheous from the Matrix about dodging bullets. ......... "Neo....when you you're ready.........you won't have to."

If you ask me... If you change what you see in the mirror.... you change whats being reflected.

There is only One of us here.

And I think that's what we are all waking up to.

Namaste.

Well, for those of us who plan on hanging out in third density for a while, and love it (if there is no lasagne in fouth density I will either commit fourth density suicide, or immediately begin meditation to move on the fifth), I'll feed the reptilian/egocentric part of my brain for as long as I can.

I don't live in the "Matrix," I live right here on planet earth. I like it here. I think I'll do everything I can to stay here for a while.

We'll miss all of you who move on the fourth density when your gone.

Originally Posted by Sanat

I have no interest in these kinds of games. Take that business elsewhere. :

I will side step the condescending tone and cut straight
to the chase.

Time is too short to waste trying to convince anyone of anything. My purpose on this forum is to share what I know, to learn what I can, and perhaps build a community. That is the purpose of Project Avalon.

There are two sides to the fear you describe; preparing
too much and preparing too little. Cognitive dissonance.
Like a deer caught in the headlights some stand, uncertain about what to do, so they do nothing or something wildly inappropriate. Like the elderly woman
during the Florida wildfires in 1998 hanging clothes out
to dry. The air so heavy with smoke you could not see
from the fire in the woods behind her home.

Perhaps not being a bit afraid is a sign that you don't really understand the situation. The difference between
a brave man and a fool is a brave man feels the fear and
does what needs to be done. A fool rushes in where angels fear to tread.

How prepared is prepared enough? This is an individual decision. If you have four years worth of food in a five year famine, well...

The bible tells us seven years. Ancient babylon had sufficient food for the citizens for twenty years. The United States in the sixties had enough to feed the entire
country for three years. Today the United States has enough grain in storage to make every man woman and child one half a loaf of bread. If the trucks stop running
forget about Uncle, because Uncle has sold your reserves
to the highest bidder overseas.

Do what is comfortable to you. If you are evolved enough to live as a breatharian - good on you! But if you open your mouth and expect the Lord to provide and nothing happens...congratulations, you have just joined the golden horde. In my neck of the woods it is the sweat
of your brow, your planning, and the grace of God that gets you by. Your failure to act will be the death of me and my lifestyle. If my brother is not prepared I am not prepared. We stand together or hang alone

If you have eyes to see and ears to hear you will be asses and elbows getting ready for winter, just like the squirrel and the ant toiling away. If you do not, brother grasshopper, peace be with you on your path. When my charity offerings are exhausted, you will not be welcome at my gate.

I could see that my opinion would be like a skunk at a tea party perusing this thread. I resisted for as long as I could. I have said my piece, now I shall darken your door no more. There are more pressing matters that need tending.

Blessings

D&D

[Gnosis5]

Hi, D&D,

You must do what your sensibilities dictate and I wish you the best in your endeavors.

During the North Korean attack on Seoul, South Korea, my grandfather-in-law fed his clan through offering up his medicines and services as a doctor. No one starved during the 400-mile walk to the southern tip of S.Korea

If Jesus Christ were here today I do believe his vibrational energies would be high enough to still be able to multiply food out of the ether, so to speak. JC also said that we could be like him (in fact we are).

I do agree with you about cognitive dissonance -- some people are stuck in a dichotomy, either insane fear and panic or insane optimism. One has to have a way to integrate the two opposing energies and be free to create more balanced choices.

About Breatharians, I don't think one has to be especially "evolved", but they would have to follow the steps and do the work, so it might be a good idea to add that to one's list of reading materials

Your emphasis seemed to be on maintaining bodies -- do you have anything to say about spiritual preparedness?

peace
G-5

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle

I will side step the condescending tone and cut straight
to the chase.

Time is too short to waste trying to convince anyone of anything. My purpose on this forum is to share what I know, to learn what I can, and perhaps build a community. That is the purpose of Project Avalon.

There are two sides to the fear you describe; preparing
too much and preparing too little. Cognitive dissonance.
Like a deer caught in the headlights some stand, uncertain about what to do, so they do nothing or something wildly inappropriate. Like the elderly woman
during the Florida wildfires in 1998 hanging clothes out
to dry. The air so heavy with smoke you could not see
from the fire in the woods behind her home.

Perhaps not being a bit afraid is a sign that you don't really understand the situation. The difference between
a brave man and a fool is a brave man feels the fear and
does what needs to be done. A fool rushes in where angels fear to tread.

How prepared is prepared enough? This is an individual decision. If you have four years worth of food in a five year famine, well...

The bible tells us seven years. Ancient babylon had sufficient food for the citizens for twenty years. The United States in the sixties had enough to feed the entire
country for three years. Today the United States has enough grain in storage to make every man woman and child one half a loaf of bread. If the trucks stop running
forget about Uncle, because Uncle has sold your reserves
to the highest bidder overseas.

Do what is comfortable to you. If you are evolved enough to live as a breatharian - good on you! But if you open your mouth and expect the Lord to provide and nothing happens...congratulations, you have just joined the golden horde. In my neck of the woods it is the sweat
of your brow, your planning, and the grace of God that gets you by. Your failure to act will be the death of me and my lifestyle. If my brother is not prepared I am not prepared. We stand together or hang alone

If you have eyes to see and ears to hear you will be asses and elbows getting ready for winter, just like the squirrel and the ant toiling away. If you do not, brother grasshopper, peace be with you on your path. When my charity offerings are exhausted, you will not be welcome at my gate.

I could see that my opinion would be like a skunk at a tea party perusing this thread. I resisted for as long as I could. I have said my piece, now I shall darken your door no more. There are more pressing matters that need tending.

Blessings

D&D

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by atom.Man

that's an interesting viewpoint. Other than intuition, do you have any reason to feel that way?

i publish the 0DayNews.org website which is basically a compilation of what i consider to be the most relevant articles collected by watching ~95 news feeds plus a handful of websites. Everything that i'm seeing indicates that the worst is far from over...

• impending attack on Iran (possibly initiated by Israel)
• global economies on the brink
• U.S. economy in the toilet
• ramp-up in Afghanistan
• a token U.S. election (more war either way and no interest in getting rid of the Fed/IRS/etc.)
• civil liberties evaporating (in several countries, not just U.S.)
• U.S. constitution virtually meaningless
• legislation in place for martial law in the U.S.
• hundreds of FEMA camps lay in wait... of what?
• global banking elite still calling many shots
• global intel communities causing chaos

i listen to people like Icke, Mutwa, Zagami, Fulford, Casbolt, Camelot, etc., etc., but these people are working at a level that is far above what i am able to confirm, for the most part. I just don't have the resources. I'm pretty much limited to watching history in real time, based on what is happening and what people are writing about, and attempt to predict the future. And it don't look good. I think it's pretty obvious how this community in general feels as this why Avalon was created.

Unless something on one of the higher levels kicks in and we're rescued by E.T.'s or whatever, we're all in for a very rough time. And i can't count on something like that.

i think this time may be the most interesting, albeit dangerous, period of history the world has ever seen. Watching it unfold, for me anyway, is like furiously trying to unwrap a present as a kid to see what's in the box. I wasn't always pleased... and i really don't think the contents of this box holds anything pleasing either, at least not in the short run.

"Other than intuition, do you have any reason to feel that way?"

No, my friend. I do not. And I don't need any reason to feel that way neither. Intuition is not based on info/reasons from the "outside". It is simply a notion without any "reason" attachd to it. And if it really is intuition it is never wrong in my experience. I trust it 100% as I have done for many years already. It has provided me nothing but good. But I know it's not for everyone. Some trust instinct/gut feeling, some trust intellect/calculation and some simply trust intuition/heart (or a combo of these). Its a matter of what you have developed I guess. Intuition does not come easy as it will test you a lot in order to grow. Abraham trusted his intuition enough to almost sacrifice his own son right?

I know of all that is going on that you talk about. I know about the Fema Camps, Iran, the economy, the plans for martial law etc. I also used to listen to all of those sources of info and more...you forgot Alex Jones btw. He should be right up your ally (he recently interviewed Icke...). I used to listen to Alex Jones every day for several years. I totally agree that it is seemingly the darkest hour we are moving into now. Some time ago I also felt that things would be catastrophical on a global level. But that notion has changed since. All I can say is to quote the old saying: It is always darkest before the dawn...

I am all for preparing btw. That was not my point at all. There will be more "local" turmoil etc. in the transitional period, but not global cataclysm the way I see it. That we have transcended. So by all means prepare if that feels right for you. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. Please do not listen to me, but rather to yourself. My point was simply that you can prepare without any fear, just as you can fight without anger and hatred. And I have a feeling this is what you do. So no prob. bro! The outside does not need to rule the inside. It should be the other way around, and this is where we are going... And to get there things will have to be turned a bit "upside down" for a while. Good luck anyhow!

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I agree. Yesterday I was chatting with an energy worker and I mentioned to her that I was afraid of the idea of the Verichip. She asked me on a scale of 1-10 how would I rate that fear. I told her it felt like an "8". She asked me to energize that fear and then take a deep breath. I did. She then asked me how I would now rate that fear. Surprisingly, it came out to a "0".

Since that little "correction" I have looked to see if there is any residual fear and there is none. I believe she uses a version of EFT.

IT IS THAT SIMPLE FOLKS !!!!! I urge you to drop the fear and raise your game and live your life to its fullest joy.

I'm not a very good Christian but I do recall the Apostle Paul saying that he could be happy no matter what his circumstances. He obviously "worked out his salvation with fear and trembling", in psychotech parlance he discharged the negative energy ridges that append to negative emotions.

The purpose of Avalon is not to incite fear, but to bring calm and stability to people.

If I had a choice between stocking my cellar with cases of food and water or purchasing some mind-changing sessions from my favorite practitioner -- well one is good for a lifetime and the latter is good for eternity.

Don't get me wrong, the practical side of me does slip a few cans of sardines into the cellar, but I know that my real treasures are in spiritual development.

You are living in a great time when these technologies are abundantly available. Give yourself a jump start on your next lifetime, pleeeeese.

Yes, calm and stability is the way. Of course, it is natural and good to feel fear in the presence of real danger. On the spur of the moment so to speak. That is how you survive. It is something else to be fearful all the time based on what "might happen". What you focus on tend to manifest and what you fear is what you focus on. This is the way the universe let you process the fear out of the system. By facing it...

When the first bombs drop, food shortages lead to starvation, and people figure out that the police will not be coming by to take a report, you can bet your sweet aunt bippy that there will be those who will rape, kill, pillage, and plunder to get whatever they want. If you live within two hundred miles of a metropolitan area, you are most at risk. Global catastrophe will not selectively weed out the *******s and leave only the enlightened. If you are going through all the trouble of creating a radiant zone, and all the work that that entails, there needs to be some provision for security. There will be children at these safehavens, and I would reluctantly do what I had to do to make sure that some roving band of monsters doesn't have the opportunity to wipe out the next generation. Face it, you may have to defend yourself in the coming times, and having the tools to facilitate the safety of yourselves and the ones you love is not being unenlightened or barbaric - it is being human.

[Jenny]

Originally Posted by historycircus

When the first bombs drop, food shortages lead to starvation, and people figure out that the police will not be coming by to take a report, you can bet your sweet aunt bippy that there will be those who will rape, kill, pillage, and plunder to get whatever they want. If you live within two hundred miles of a metropolitan area, you are most at risk. Global catastrophe will not selectively weed out the *******s and leave only the enlightened. If you are going through all the trouble of creating a radiant zone, and all the work that that entails, there needs to be some provision for security. There will be children at these safehavens, and I would reluctantly do what I had to do to make sure that some roving band of monsters doesn't have the opportunity to wipe out the next generation. Face it, you may have to defend yourself in the coming times, and having the tools to facilitate the safety of yourselves and the ones you love is not being unenlightened or barbaric - it is being human.

Defending yourself and those who cannot defend temselves can be done without barbarism or fear.

It is intelligent to defend what needs to be defended.

It is more like what you are being teached in Martial Arts.

[Sanat]

Again. I trust that if this was the case then I would be prompted to "prepare" for that scenario. But since I am not prompted in that direction I trust that this cannot be the case for me at least. I am only speaking for myself after all. I do not look to the outside for guidance and that is perhaps unusual in this world. People must do what feels right for them. But all can be done without any fear, hate or anger. I accept whatever happens because I do not have any personal preferances. I see everything as an interesting lesson. I do not have any children or even a partner. I understand and respect that having these things likely will give you different perspective.

[atom.Man]

Originally Posted by Sanat

"[...]you forgot Alex Jones btw. He should be right up your ally[...]

i didn't forget, i simply don't know what box to put him in

[Seva]

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle

I will side step the condescending tone and cut straight
to the chase.

Time is too short to waste trying to convince anyone of anything. My purpose on this forum is to share what I know, to learn what I can, and perhaps build a community. That is the purpose of Project Avalon.

There are two sides to the fear you describe; preparing
too much and preparing too little. Cognitive dissonance.
Like a deer caught in the headlights some stand, uncertain about what to do, so they do nothing or something wildly inappropriate. Like the elderly woman
during the Florida wildfires in 1998 hanging clothes out
to dry. The air so heavy with smoke you could not see
from the fire in the woods behind her home.

Perhaps not being a bit afraid is a sign that you don't really understand the situation. The difference between
a brave man and a fool is a brave man feels the fear and
does what needs to be done. A fool rushes in where angels fear to tread.

How prepared is prepared enough? This is an individual decision. If you have four years worth of food in a five year famine, well...

The bible tells us seven years. Ancient babylon had sufficient food for the citizens for twenty years. The United States in the sixties had enough to feed the entire
country for three years. Today the United States has enough grain in storage to make every man woman and child one half a loaf of bread. If the trucks stop running
forget about Uncle, because Uncle has sold your reserves
to the highest bidder overseas.

Do what is comfortable to you. If you are evolved enough to live as a breatharian - good on you! But if you open your mouth and expect the Lord to provide and nothing happens...congratulations, you have just joined the golden horde. In my neck of the woods it is the sweat
of your brow, your planning, and the grace of God that gets you by. Your failure to act will be the death of me and my lifestyle. If my brother is not prepared I am not prepared. We stand together or hang alone

If you have eyes to see and ears to hear you will be asses and elbows getting ready for winter, just like the squirrel and the ant toiling away. If you do not, brother grasshopper, peace be with you on your path. When my charity offerings are exhausted, you will not be welcome at my gate.

I could see that my opinion would be like a skunk at a tea party perusing this thread. I resisted for as long as I could. I have said my piece, now I shall darken your door no more. There are more pressing matters that need tending.

Blessings

D&D

Brilliant point, and i also feel seeing some replies to your post do some think the word "survival" a dirty word? Why if you wish for the continuation of your body, you are seen as unenlightened and less spiritual. if we did not need these bodies to do what needs be then why are we here, if somehow the grounding of our energies in this physical form was necessary then we would be staning in a comfortable place bring armchair quarterbacks. So i assume this is necessary, and if the word survival is offensive then how about LIFE, i will do things for LIFE and to LIVE, and thru these thigns i will continue and be able to assist other in LIFE to LIVE and so on from my brothers and sisters of the light to the world that is now in shadow. Be the lighthouse. And yes i said this to someone yesterday to which they became promptly ****** i said, those who chose to do nothing and were full aware of what was comming will be burdens on those who have. Its true becasuse id never turn anyone away id share whatever i have. But this senario should be for those is the dizzyconfusion of this world the ones we are here to help. Becasue when what they find familiar falls and they wake from that waking sleep, they will turn aroudn in circles in panic and we need to be there, present and calm, with answers with the candle in the window and a open door.


Instead of arguing of technicalities and getting anoyed at thins, becasuie its easy to get that way, this is serious, this is a world changing event this isnt the same day after day we have been used to. how about we balance, maybe some are good at keeping the calm mind ok add that and some how to promote LIFE, awsome two sides of the coin MIND/BODY both needed. I know alot of the stuff flying around now is nausiating, it is, yesterday after my group meditaion i was awsome and then today im shown things that turn my stomache and freeze my heart.
And for those who have kept track of things, facts are FACTS
if you find them are ulgy or NOT. people do mean things

people do awful thigns sometimes, in a unconscious state, when they act in the will of the ego and pain body with thier radiant soul asleep

To make the mistake that all people think as you do, or would act as your do. IS not a good plan... I know that the same spak is in them and i hold faith in the power of RESONANCE to shift them and awaken the divinty in side them and change there hearts. There is also talk of this happeneing in the darkest places and that gives me great joy.

Now the things that are unfolding around us. Its.... unbalancing to put it mildly. And one has to ask is avoidance maybe a byproduct of fear. I will close my eyes and plug my ears, and now i dont see of hear you.

To add on to what Braggywrinke was explaing, i have one more to add

also based in fact the cute story about the Boiling frog

The boiling frog story states that a frog can be boiled alive if the water is heated slowly enough — it is said that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will never jump out.

The story is generally told in a figurative context, with the upshot being that people should make themselves aware of gradual change lest they suffer a catastrophic loss. Often it is used to illustrate a slippery-slope argument. For example, many civil libertarians argue that even minor increases in government authority, which may seem less noteworthy, make future increases in that authority more likely: what would once have seemed a huge power grab, the argument goes, now becomes seen as just another incremental increase, and thus appears more palatable. In the boiling-frog allegory, the frog represents the citizenry, whilst the gradual heating of the water represents the incremental encroachment of government.


Dont be the frog

And those of us who arent down with the froggyness arent wingnuts

Maybe we are this polarity for a reason to make sure all bases are covered no one person has all the pieces. maybe we each have a valuable piece and no piece is more valuable and all are needed.

About forming communities it cant be imposible right now there are Large groups of happy little hippies have eco farms. But things can be made to different specifications.

Is it maybe that what we would need to do seems

To difficult
To late
To out of reach
No plan
No visable completed one
No people in a group agreeing
The thought of it EWWW dont wanna look or think of it (being in lack)
A endless camping trip (some people dont like this idea) (was speaking to a friend yesterday one thing that puts people off specially girlies like myself is the lack of the moden things we take for granted in other words we wanna "poop with dignity" and we dont think the bears have a good thing going.
But our types do tend to embrace new technologies there are many scientists and im sure we coud figure something out that would not having us living like cavemen

Why do i think about this... becasue i know of the importance of unity, of us to gather. To be that lighthouse. And we have to LIVE to be that, if we all have our hearts intent for the HIGEST GOOD. well we would need to get out butts together i think wiht many heads there are bound to be sweet ideas i have a few if anyone wants to maybe wants to discuss what relaisticly be done then lets all join hands and minds for this. If not feel free to tell me to shutup

But know i love you all so much you are all angels here. There are no limits to what we can acomplish if we are in unity.