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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento Ca
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All well resonating observations folks!
I can't help but wonder if that is even our sun anymore. |
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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I wonder if atmospheric changes (say, chemtrails and pollution) are changing the look of it for us. The atmosphere is like an optical lens.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ontario
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Droid56, I just want to thank you for this post, not for the question being asked though its an interesting one
but for the mention of isuma.tv.I went and watched both of the movies Atanarjuat The Fast Runner & The Journals of Knud Rasmussen which meant allot to me. Thanks As mentioned by Droid56 isumaTV has this information about Inuit Climate perspective; IKCC Story in Winnipeg's UPTOWN 12/08/2009 http://www.isuma.tv/hi/en/inuit-know...nnipegs-uptown As well as this one. CBC News North Article on IKCC Project 12/09/2009 http://www.isuma.tv/hi/en/inuit-know...e-ikcc-project Its part of a Documentary that's a UN-sponsored Indigenous Voices on Climate Change Film Festival, make of that what you will. 16 min preview speech here : http://www.isuma.tv/hi/en/inuit-know...sion-un-cop-15 Last edited by Aztar; 12-11-2009 at 10:52 AM. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento Ca
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![]() but i suppose this forum will do that to you.... ![]() If chemtrails and pollution are creating an optical illusion... then perhaps these test could be conducted in an area where there is neither. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Yukon
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I live and work in the far north and the sun looks just fine to me, same as last year, the year before and the decades i remember before that, go figure eh!
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento Ca
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Looks as though we are not alone in our observations of the sun
![]() http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age371651/pg12 http://www.zetatalk.com/index/earth243.htm http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread288581/pg1 |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 162
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According to the calculations in the 2009 Nautical Almanac, and measuring directly with my Sextant, the Sun, and the Stars are exactly where they should be, however I have read recent reports that clocks have been off by up to two hours. The Analemma will put the sun in the "Wrong" position by as much as 16 minutes, the sun is either "Fast" or slow by that amount, the " equation of time" is used to correct for the effects of the Analemma.
Mizar |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canada
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Glad you have a sextant and know how to use it, and here is a link that explains Analemma:
http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html Quote:
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Western Canada
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I guess it is likely they are wrong in their observations, as the science dudes with science machines have pointed out.
But I'm still listening to the people who say they see unexpected things. |
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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There's also perception, AND the earth's crust floats around too. I knew of a seismologist whose job it was to measure the mountains moving.Quote:
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Julian Barbour, The End of Time: The Next Revolution in Physics http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/liv...ime/index.html |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
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When you said the sun's not ours, it made me think it got switched! Maybe the sun itself is changing. I mean, clearly it's ever-changing, ... everything's ever-changing, ... I better stop here to avoid another la-la land loop. {breathe}
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento Ca
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Don't blame me for going to la-la land...
but since you brought it up.... multi-verse theory might explain such a switch.... http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-m-theory.htm Quote:
Last edited by Karen; 12-13-2009 at 10:23 AM. Reason: fix quotation brackets |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 375
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A very good point that crossed my mind too ... I started a thread Wubbo Ockels explains how ‘time’ is created by human beings , it got 106 views but no replies. So some people have seen that presentation but did not give any feedback on what they think about it. In this presentation Wubbo mentions that, in relation to the topic of the presentation, we have a 'program' running in our brain that makes us perceive reality different. This 'program' is not perfect and has flaws. One of them is that we see the sun or moon appearing bigger when they are close to the horizon. Well we have a lot of crazy stuff happening north on this globe. Are circumstances changing so that we only perceive things differently ? So ... there might be an interesting link that you bring up. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: British Columbia
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Well, after a little more research, it appears that the Inuit are right, from their perspective, with low sun angles and higher atmospheric refraction corrections their sun has indeed moved. Here's a link to the article;
http://www.eh2r.com/ For us farther south, nothing has changed, I stand corrected. Mizar |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: UK
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Makes you wonder?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9SbQq70nhY viking |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Spijk 9909AC NL
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Dear friends,
goto: http://hpiers.obspm.fr Here you can see how our planet has moved, the Chandler wobble..... The near perfect circle was 2008, the more oval one is this years. The years before were more eratic even , this may have to do with our planet passing the galactic plane. The latter movement is a long cycle ,about corresponding with the Mayan calender...............the longest cycle. Old snake |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canada
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It is a compact fluorescent (CFL) Energy Star certified sun, did not you get the memo -- whoops sorry about that!!! |
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