Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes"

[Lionhawk]

Well Mudra, I think I see where I am getting confused. Terms. What I call reality or a reality you call a Universe. A misunderstanding.

As offered by Wikipedia, the following;

Reality, in everyday usage, means "the state of things as they actually exist."[1] Literally, the term denotes what is real; in its widest sense, this includes everything that is, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. Reality in this sense includes being and sometimes is considered to include nothingness, as well. By contrast, the term existence is often restricted solely to being (compare with nature).


The Universe comprises everything that physically exists, the entirety of space and time, all forms of matter and energy, and the physical laws and constants that govern them. However, the term Universe may be used in slightly different contextual senses, denoting such concepts as the cosmos, the world, or Nature.

So to me a Universe is already in existence and my reality is my perception of that Universe depending on my awareness field. That is how I define it. I don't think I am creating a Universe simply because I am a soul residing in this one for the purposes of soul growth. If I was to be creating a Universe, I wouldn't be here. So if I take the word "reality" and swap it with the word "universe," then what you are conveying makes better sense to me. Takes the confusion out of it.

And not to be argumentative here, but I don't think we have to be victims to claim full responsibility for ourselves. I will agree however that we should claim responsibility for all aspects of whatever hood aspects that we might endeavor in. You either claim responsibility or you don't. I don't think it is something you raise as that is an analog term. To be or not to be isn't a question full of gray. To raise in that context creates gray. It only creates more confusion. This doesn't have to be complicated. It isn't complicated but we make it sound more complicated by using terms that only make us sound sophisticated. The truth is what it is and that is something we can complicate by confusing the terminology to sound sophisticated. Now if that doesn't confuse the hell out of everyone. ahhaha

Also to try and manipulate your own mind to transcend the mind is the battle in your own mind. It's called the rational mind. It is the programming we were taught. But that is not to say we can't reside and operate in the mind of our hearts. The rational mind doesn't reside there. So if you want to connect to oneness that is where you will connect. If you are trying to raise into oneness, then you are using your mind that of your brain to transcend that into a virtual place that your mind has made up. Such as a universe it created. If you reside in your heart you will find that the Universe is already provided for you and you don't have to create another one. That is the dis connect. If you are trying to "raise" into oneness, that tells me that you are using the mind above your shoulders instead of the one in your heart. You don't have to raise into anything in your heart. It is already. "To be or not to be."

This reminds me of a story. I had a friend living in Arizona. His name was Larry. A real gentleman. Top class type. He also had a website and that was how I met him. He had worked for several companies and made them tons of money in the Sales Industry. As it turns out he was also an information junkie with the medical and metaphysical subjects. He posted a lot of that stuff on his website. Anyways, he married a woman from Europe who was a chocolateer, nutritional expert, amongst other things, who was also an information type junkie. When they first met, the sparks just flew since they had a lot in common. They appeared like such a dynamic loving couple doing all these things that integrated business and the spiritual. They were always taking booster courses on the spiritual and business and became so mentally occupied that their hearts short circuited. Well, one day I get this call. Not a good one. Larry was basically in tears. Now if you can imagine an older gentleman in tears is not something anyone would want to see. Come to find out their marriage wasn't what it appeared to be either. She had basically thought that Larry was loaded since he made all this money for other companies and she thought if she married him that she could have Larry put her in her own Chocolate candy business. She basically used him because of her own insecurities. She had a lot of heart blockages from her past and even though they tried to work on them, they both got lost with the battle in their minds, never realizing that all they had to do was find their heart's mind. Always trying to rise up and succeed in whatever they were doing. Always failing. And what he described as a marriage was something totally opposite as to what I would call normal in any sense of the word. They never once even went to bed in all of their marriage. She basically used him for security and citizenship. To this day he refuses to look into his heart despite every course, every book, and every heart ache he endures. Always wanting to rise into oneness in his own mind and never finding what he has been seeking because he has trapped himself and thinking he could rationalize it with the rational mind. Sad story. This story is not uncommon as it is a story based in duality and not in oneness. To this day they both sound like tape recorders always using second hand stuff to explain their "rational reasoning." Sounds almost something like you'd watch on the Twilight Zone. Enough of my ramblings. Just thought it would be a good example as to what happens with this kind of thing.

Okay, thanks Mudra for your response as I did make some progress there.

Respectfully

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

Well Mudra, I think I see where I am getting confused. Terms. What I call reality or a reality you call a Universe. A misunderstanding.

Thank you LionHawk for taking the time to clarify your views.
We can use the term reality if that is a more accurate one for you .
I completely agree with you when you say that mind should 'nt be manipulated to transcend it . One can indeed run in circles by being in one's mind and it will get you nowhere as a soul .
That it is not through a mental process that you reach your foundation as a soul is perfectly clear to me .
You already are a soul and that is all you are so yes to keep it simple it is as you say either " to be or not to be ".
The image of a ladder to raise into oneness is only an image and should'nt be taken literally .
We as souls are in the center of our own reality . The Heart of our reality is us a souls .
You use the term rational mind for it if I understand you well . That is fine too.
Finding that center or bring it to your awareness.. finding your true heart .. your foundation as a soul and then living by it is I believe the soul 's journey .
The journey to me is one of Love for when you realize you are at the center of your own reality then you can take responsability for all that is that comes to you .
The following poem is very close to what I am trying to convey .
I would only have replaced the words " remember " by know because I believe that saying that we have a soul is misleading . We are souls always .

Soul
(by Eric Galla)

Close your eyes,
To see with your heart,
Close your ears,
To hear with your heart,
Forget your mind,
And think with your heart.

For your heart will see,
When your eyes fail,
And your heart will hear,
When the voices are confused,
Your heart has the answers,
When your mind falls short.

Remember your heart,
For it is the key to love,
Remember all love,
For love is the key to your soul,
Remember your soul,
For it is your Foundation.

Respect to You LionHawk

mudra