Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon

08-08-2009, 09:41 PM

Oh well. At least it's public.

‘Pain Ray’ First Commercial Sale Looms
By David Hambling - August 5, 2009
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...al-sale-looms/

The military isn’t about to deploy its pain ray to the battlefield. But someone in the commercial sector is about to one. We don’t know who. The sale is mentioned in a presentation by Raytheon, who built the microwave weapon for the Defense Department.

The so-called “Active Denial System” works by heating the outer surface of the target’s skin using millimeter waves — short wavelength microwaves. The effect is painful, but generally harmless, and forces the target to get out of the beam. Recently, it’s been proposed as a possible defense against pirates; last month, Raytheon gave a presentation on Active Denial at a NATO workshop on anti-pirate equipment and technologies.

metaw3 · 08-08-2009, 11:26 PM

Anti-pirate equipment? What about finding out what causes pirates to exist?

burgundia · 08-09-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by metaw3

Anti-pirate equipment? What about finding out what causes pirates to exist?

You have answered yourself

...a reason to produce those weapons.

metaw3 · 08-09-2009, 03:31 PM

I'm sorry. That was just a way of saying "the more we need to produce weapons, the more we should consider that we are the wrong guys".

I mean at this point how is it possible that Rockefeller and all have not figured out that they are wrong? Do they like being wrong? Who likes being wrong? Why don't they just give up and admit they failed at running the planet? It's becoming ridiculous. Microwave weapons?!? The only exucse left for them to justify their obstinacy is to think that we are more stupid than them for not stopping their foolishness. And that's not even an excuse! I'm reading Atlas Shrugged right now and how well did Ayn Rand figure out where we were heading!

Unified Serenity · 08-09-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by metaw3

I'm sorry. That was just a way of saying "the more we need to produce weapons, the more we should consider that we are the wrong guys".

I mean at this point how is it possible that Rockefeller and all have not figured out that they are wrong? Do they like being wrong? Who likes being wrong? Why don't they just give up and admit they failed at running the planet? It's becoming ridiculous. Microwave weapons?!? The only exucse left for them to justify their obstinacy is to think that we are more stupid than them for not stopping their foolishness. And that's not even an excuse! I'm reading Atlas Shrugged right now and how well did Ayn Rand figure out where we were heading!

Hmmm, I really don't think it's the majority of population earth who want war and killing, but a very small power elite who desire this for their own power mongering control. The reason they have not stopped is that they do have control and just have not managed to kill 6 billion of us to solidify their complete control and have a nice slave population to command at will.

They think they are on the verge of accomplishing this via war and disease. Ayn Rand did not figure anything out, but just shared the blueprint given to her. Not that hard really. That book was never meant to be read by the unwashed masses btw.

I think if there are peaceful ET's they are very aware of the real desires of the majority of earth, and know that it is a small ptb that are delaying our growth and ability to create a world in peace and love, but also are not willing to step in and do our work for us. We have free will, and eventually we will either get rid of this ugly paradigm or we will succumb to it!

I have been fortunate enough to have lived in the middle east and Europe, travel to every continent and really get to know locals to know for myself that people everywhere are loving and want the same things that I do for my family. We want to work, to educate our children and live peacefully. I have enjoyed sharing dinners with so many of different cultures and none of them looked down on my way of life, but enjoyed wonderful sharing and communications. We really do have a wonderful planet with equally beautiful people everywhere.

08-09-2009, 07:45 PM

I definitely agree with Unified Serendipity. The majority of humans are content with the usual daily challenges, triumphs and miracles of existence, in relationships, providing for families, dealing with setbacks - that's the gift. I can't abide by this minority elite, especially when 'democracy' flags are flying all over the place.

My quibble with Wired's position that "The [weapon's] effect is painful, but generally harmless, and forces the target to get out of the beam." Going back to its military use:

"Possibly the best known case of microwave harassment in the UK was the plight of the Greenham Common peace protesters... Protesters complained of severe headaches, temporary paralysis, nausea, palpitations and other classic symptoms of microwave poisoning. Tests revealed microwave radiation up to one hundred times greater than background readings taken around the base."
http://www.geocities.com/adrian9999999999/greenham.htm

Humble Janitor · 08-09-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaw3

I'm sorry. That was just a way of saying "the more we need to produce weapons, the more we should consider that we are the wrong guys".

I mean at this point how is it possible that Rockefeller and all have not figured out that they are wrong? Do they like being wrong? Who likes being wrong? Why don't they just give up and admit they failed at running the planet? It's becoming ridiculous. Microwave weapons?!? The only exucse left for them to justify their obstinacy is to think that we are more stupid than them for not stopping their foolishness. And that's not even an excuse! I'm reading Atlas Shrugged right now and how well did Ayn Rand figure out where we were heading!

It looks too clunky to be useful.

Just another piece of junk destined to create profits for the powers that were.

Unified Serenity · 08-10-2009, 01:34 AM

Oh but humble we are so nice to march down streets protesting! If the police have this mounted on a vehicle they can move it easily, and disperse a crowd quickly. Imagine if they had this in the 1960's during the civil rights protest marches!

Humble Janitor · 08-10-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

Oh but humble we are so nice to march down streets protesting! If the police have this mounted on a vehicle they can move it easily, and disperse a crowd quickly. Imagine if they had this in the 1960's during the civil rights protest marches!

I'm sure that people will find a way to defeat the technology.

What do microwaves hate?

Hint: It's silver, shiny and it "crinkles."

metaw3 · 08-10-2009, 01:48 AM

The activist of the future:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/...890357.jpg?v=0

Unified Serenity · 08-10-2009, 01:59 AM

Mylar would probably be successful at blocking the microwaves, but can you see more than 1% having a mylar suit on under their clothes? I can't, and thus believe this will be employed against crowds who choose to get uppity regarding the coming economic crash and forced vaccinations despite it being deemed to use such weapons in Iraq against the people as they are deemed torture.

Apparently our military has some nasty stuff that destroys the body and even shrinks the body down to small sizes while it kills you. Well, that info was based on a doctors report in Iraq.

08-08-2009, 09:41 PM	#1
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon Oh well. At least it's public. ‘Pain Ray’ First Commercial Sale Looms By David Hambling - August 5, 2009 http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...al-sale-looms/ The military isn’t about to deploy its pain ray to the battlefield. But someone in the commercial sector is about to one. We don’t know who. The sale is mentioned in a presentation by Raytheon, who built the microwave weapon for the Defense Department. The so-called “Active Denial System” works by heating the outer surface of the target’s skin using millimeter waves — short wavelength microwaves. The effect is painful, but generally harmless, and forces the target to get out of the beam. Recently, it’s been proposed as a possible defense against pirates; last month, Raytheon gave a presentation on Active Denial at a NATO workshop on anti-pirate equipment and technologies.

08-08-2009, 11:26 PM	#2
metaw3 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 431	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon Anti-pirate equipment? What about finding out what causes pirates to exist?

08-09-2009, 03:31 PM	#4
metaw3 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 431	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon I'm sorry. That was just a way of saying "the more we need to produce weapons, the more we should consider that we are the wrong guys". I mean at this point how is it possible that Rockefeller and all have not figured out that they are wrong? Do they like being wrong? Who likes being wrong? Why don't they just give up and admit they failed at running the planet? It's becoming ridiculous. Microwave weapons?!? The only exucse left for them to justify their obstinacy is to think that we are more stupid than them for not stopping their foolishness. And that's not even an excuse! I'm reading Atlas Shrugged right now and how well did Ayn Rand figure out where we were heading!

08-09-2009, 07:45 PM	#6
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon I definitely agree with Unified Serendipity. The majority of humans are content with the usual daily challenges, triumphs and miracles of existence, in relationships, providing for families, dealing with setbacks - that's the gift. I can't abide by this minority elite, especially when 'democracy' flags are flying all over the place. My quibble with Wired's position that "The [weapon's] effect is painful, but generally harmless, and forces the target to get out of the beam." Going back to its military use: "Possibly the best known case of microwave harassment in the UK was the plight of the Greenham Common peace protesters... Protesters complained of severe headaches, temporary paralysis, nausea, palpitations and other classic symptoms of microwave poisoning. Tests revealed microwave radiation up to one hundred times greater than background readings taken around the base." http://www.geocities.com/adrian9999999999/greenham.htm

08-10-2009, 01:34 AM	#8
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon Oh but humble we are so nice to march down streets protesting! If the police have this mounted on a vehicle they can move it easily, and disperse a crowd quickly. Imagine if they had this in the 1960's during the civil rights protest marches!

08-10-2009, 01:48 AM	#10
metaw3 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 431	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon The activist of the future: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/...890357.jpg?v=0

08-10-2009, 01:59 AM	#11
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: Microwave Weapon goes commercial - Raytheon Mylar would probably be successful at blocking the microwaves, but can you see more than 1% having a mylar suit on under their clothes? I can't, and thus believe this will be employed against crowds who choose to get uppity regarding the coming economic crash and forced vaccinations despite it being deemed to use such weapons in Iraq against the people as they are deemed torture. Apparently our military has some nasty stuff that destroys the body and even shrinks the body down to small sizes while it kills you. Well, that info was based on a doctors report in Iraq.