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Old 08-07-2009, 03:05 PM   #1
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I thought that it was a good interview.

I think that Steven Greer got his point across. And Camelot got their point across.

I love the story that Steven told at the end. I think the dream was a perfect metaphor.
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Old 08-07-2009, 03:45 PM   #2
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I thought that it was a good interview.

I think that Steven Greer got his point across. And Camelot got their point across.

I love the story that Steven told at the end. I think the dream was a perfect metaphor.
Yes, this is true for the 75% of it that I watched. However, the same thing could have been accomplished with people taking turns voicing their opinion instead of being impatient and having to own the conversation. There was a little of this from Greer as well. However, this was only a defensive response to mirror what Kerry was already doing.

I started having a hard time listening to it after about the first 5 times she cut him off in the middle of answering a question that she asked. Then when he said something like "I am being interviewed here and you are running me over while I am trying to get my point across" her response was "Well, you must not be framiliar with our style of interviewing."

From my personal experience in just dealing with people on a daily basis my opinion is that cutting people off in the middle of explaining answers to questions is not an interview style. It is a bad habbit. I have worked with people in the business environment that had this habbit and it is very, very difficult to tolerate. Then when ever you do the same thing back they get defensive and act victimized.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:29 PM   #3
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Amen to that! It was painfully obvious that both parties came to this interview with a lot of baggage. PC has some resentment about the Greer camp calling PC Disinfo – and Greer was hurt by PC saying his stance on ET’s is insidious, etc. How human of them to be reactive and both want respect.

Once you put aside the personalities and egos and get to the meat of what is being presented (which is hard believe me), I walk away with some wonderful insights. They came from Steven. It was about the power of being positive, loving and hopeful and the importance of where we place our focus. And this, despite living in duality where negativity just IS.
Steven sharing his lion dream was a stroke of genius and inspiration -- it salvaged the interview for me. The message is KEY and exactly what humanity needs to remember for us to make this leap into the evolution of our world.

I would love for PCamelot & SGreer to offer us all a statement, now that things have cooled down, on their thoughts – not who is right or wrong, but something hopeful and uplifting despite the darkness, which yes Kerry & Bill, we all know is there.

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I have heard this argument a lot from people who are spiritual about Barack Obama:

'It's all about his vibration, it's so high. You need to have a high vibration to recognize it. Those who don't see it don't have a high enough vibration.'

It might be worth considering the Greer comments about vibration are similar. Not saying there is not some value in what he said, but I think it's worth considering that it is dangerous to assert that what Greer said is truth based on his vibration. I realize that's not the point that was made explicitly but it's important to make it clear. If any of many thousands of personal experiences and whistleblowers testimony is to be believed, there is a large contingent of ETs in the third dimension who are working against your soul evolution. You are going to ascend to a new 5 th with the new earth, why do you think these et's still live and act in the third dimension when you are about to evolve past it?

Whether or not we want to pretend there is no opposition to the earth's ascension, doesn't change whether there is opposition or not.

Whether or not you believe in germs, doesn't change the fact that they will make you sick if you don't wash your hands.

Greer apparently ignores all that's happening behind the scenes and the mind control that's going on both on individuals and society at large, and comes to the conclusion all the et's are benevolent.

There is an often overlooked whistleblower in this forum with very important experiences to share from a very high level. His name is James Casbolt, you might want to consider checking out his work. He is one of many.

Those connecting with ETs on psychic levels is a different story than what is happening here and now on this planet in the physical underground throughout the world.

You can see the people are deceived by their own governments and media, what makes you think ETs that connect and give messages so freely and easily are truly benevolent? What makes you think they don't have their own agenda?

I've read a lot of channeled information and my discernment tells me the majority of it has untruths mixed in with truths. Anything that is not leading you towards greater empowerment and connection to the source of all life within you, at the same time as overcoming your ego illusions, I believe can be very poisonous indeed.

It sounds like Kerry does need to work on protecting her energy field and coming up higher, as we all do. This will help out her interviews and the group move higher, since the interviews are one of the driving forces here, or at least they were when the community started. But my suggestion is don't judge a truth by who is the slickest speaker.

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I hope no one is offended by this analysis, but this is my take on watching the interview and looking at certain criteria.

I watched the interview to get some time hacks on who spoke when, how long, and what were the reasons for interruptions. Let me say that Mr. Greer was obviously offended by Kerry's using the word "insidious" regarding the comments made by him. She tried to deftly get past that by stating it was not personal or about Mr. Greer, but rather the affect of his "all ET's are positive" could have because to Bill and Kerry there is no definitive proof of that. Those are Mr. Greer's views and while He challenges them to prove a negative, where is the proof that all ET's are positive? He would have to have all knowledge and I do believe most reserve that status to God/Goddess.

On the flip side, it is just as insulting to accuse Bill and Kerry bringing up the possibility of negative oriented ET's of making "dangerous" comments. What is the difference between saying someone's comments are insidious vs. dangerous? None as far as I can tell, it's semantics.

I do appreciate the dynamic that Mr. Greer pointed out that people have for thousands of years turned to warfare and the us vs. them paradigm which is not the best way to live in a harmony. While he says it is possible that there could be negative ET's that has not been his experience nor the experience of thousands who have initiated contact via his methods. I will go so far as to say that even those awake to what is happening who are seeking truth if they were to hear Mr. Greer say, "Yes, there are people who have had negative personal experiences with ET's" would help germinate a seed of fear should contact come about, and that might turn into a violent reaction from us less evolved humans. We do have a track record, and if I were a capable explorer then I might not want to have such contact or help them. Much as when someone may try to help a drowning victim if untrained they may find themselves drowned in the end. We have shot them down, used weapons against them and therefore might they take precautions?

Mr. Greer also pointed out that if someone who did not understand medicine were to see him inserting a chest tube in a small child who is not sedated and screaming would think he were a monster, so might we think an ET is a monster who may be trying to save us. We are killing many species here every year, and we are killing each other.

I was not offended by Kerry or Bill's attempts to gain some control of the interview. They were interviewing Steven Greer for THEIR program. They have a right to talk! First off, I would say do NOT sit on either side of a guest because it puts the guest in the awkward position to keep turning their head to appear to be engaging both hosts. This would have been alleviated easily by Bill and Kerry sitting next to each other.

In the first roughly 30 minutes of the interview, Mr. Greer spoke for 22 minutes. Kerry's questions were on average of 44 seconds. On two occasions she or bill spoke for 1:35 and 1:10 while the other times were for 10 to 47 seconds. At one point Mr. Greer spoke without interruption for 7:10. He spoke another two times for 4:45 and 3:05 while his other responses were usually over a minute. I saw people comment on Kerry touching Mr. Greer's arm, but I noticed that Mr. Greer made the first invasion of personal space with Bill regarding his hat. This is all really silly because they are not arch enemies, just having a difference of opinion on one area. Yes, there was tension over it, but Mr. Greer made the first real invasion of personal space and I did not see anything aggressive from Kerry towards Mr. Greer in touching his arm (Or Bill for that matter) nor did she wag her finger at him, but raised a finger in emphasizing a point of fact in her views.

The last half of the interview was a pretty good give and take on both sides. It had some contention, but I do think Mr. Greer bears just as much responsibility for over-talking Kerry or Bill. He would talk for a minute and a half and get irritated when they wanted to interject something to deal with something he said and Mr. Greer accused them of not letting him speak! Had they not interrupted him, I doubt we would have gotten as much detail as we wanted as he could just talk and talk for an hour without a problem.

All in all, I think the interview was ok. It would have been much less uncomfortable to watch had B & K sat together and table would have been nice as well. The chairs looked uncomfortable and Mr. Greer appeared to not want to be there or appeared a "victim" in some aspect by his posture as if he were saying, "OK, I'm here, let's have it and get it over with". That would not have been as apparent had they been sitting at a table in a more professional setting.

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The 'insidious' remark was probably the only reason that Greer did this interview. Very crafty on B & K's part.

It is odd that Greer named one of his main projects the Orion Project, considering Orion is being portrayed as sort of the new age d-evil.

As someone mentioned, there is no doubt that the information being dis-closed is that which is carefully considered before hand.

We will probably never know whether Camelot or Greer are dis-info or not with 100% certainty, but one thing I know is that Greer hit the nail on the head by saying we need to become much more peaceful before we can progress. Or stop letting negative vibrations to in-flu-ence-za us so easily.

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Those are Mr. Greer's views and while He challenges them to prove a negative, where is the proof that all ET's are positive?
Greer said "you can't prove a negative". In other words, he was admitting that he could not prove that "there are no hostile ETs" (which is a negative statement by virtue of the use of the word "no"). It was a concession, not a challenge. This phrase is sometimes used by atheists when admitting that you cannot prove that there is no god. Greer was raised as an atheist.
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I understand what you mean about proving a negative, but I do not think he meant it that way. He has said over and over to provide proof of a negative ET encounter and that they cannot prove it.

Just as he reversed Kerry's "as above so below" by saying, "as below so above" in reference to maybe it has been our dealings with them that have caused some less than enjoyable experiences on our part.
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I don't think this was poster here yet.
12 minute press conference briefing by Greer in Barcelona:

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Old 08-11-2009, 12:23 PM   #11
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I only came upon this thread last night and after watching Bill Kerry Steven in Barcelona and then Steven on his own and reading every ones comments I have to agree with Unified Serenity every were she speaks...

I have some further thoughts though... Was BIll and Hilary...The head of the CIA, pretending they didn't know??? Just to keep Steven greer sweet and then get off the hook, when every one gets mighty ****** at being lied to, when this whole thing goes public and blows??? I don't know maybe Bill was supprised to find out but, isn't Hilary a Rodham? According to some info (I don't know how accurate) The Rodhams are a big Luciferian family?

There is much info around about the majority of Nordics being pretend goodguys.... The Ashter Command and the Galactic federation being a false (Angelic) ascended master scam including Senanda on board the Capricorn etc.. and that the Ashtars being on the side of the more self serving Annunaki and the whole Anu plan to keep to harvest our souls in to their own paradigm matrix or keep us trapped in there lower dimentional universe?
They are ment to be very adept at creating feelings of love and rapture through their mind controlle technolagy?

Could Steven be fooled by these guys, in believing they are off the highest intent?
Maybe by now, after all this time they are? They have really fallen in love with their stolen creation ? Us and they want to keep us?
All the Sheldin Needle stuff with the Galactic federation seems very wise and of high intent... but then you have the Paladians warning us away from the Gallactic federation and then you have the Federation of light saying they are not the Gallactic federation and every body saying the other has an agenda...
In the question of good or bad, I think Steven is right...It's far more complecated ,every one , even us Earth humans, has an agenda that is in our own best interest and you only have to look at the humans on this planet. How many different philosaphy's religions, history's ideals, goals are there?
Each faction believes they are right.
I'd imagine a hundred trillion gallaxied universe would be a b...dy nightmare in the sense.
I would imagine there are many factions who are here and more or less on the path of "let humanity on Earth develope naturally but with our phillosaphy"

As for Reptillians... Why would we assume that all reptillians are bad? All humans aren't bad, although there are some very muderous , greedy, self serving and sadistic human factions on this planet.

Many channels claim there was a negitive faction of reptillians who caused an uprising in the Orion sector millions of years ago, resulting in the Orion wars which this planets occupation became a small part of. These negitive Reptillians, joined forces with a renigade faction of Nordics and they were the Sumerian Annunaki Gods.
(There are supposedly many beautiful light working reptillians who are amaizing Christed beings... Ra was supposedly one.)

There is supposed to peace in this sector of the Galaxy now, with Reptillians, humans, what ever else, working together but the rebels are still out there! And the Illumanati, still clinging to thier out dated controlle paradigm.

This could all be a load of tosh but many differnt channels tell the same story.


As for God in the bible... The old testiment is based on the Torah, there is 18 different words for God, which means that were GOd is mentioned it could be one of many people.. From Elohim (which in hebrew is female and plural) to Yaweh (Who many biblical historians equate with both Enlil and Anu, were Enki beacme Lucifer.... The torah was writen by the followers of Enlil, based on Sumerian legends... ie Eden Adam and Eve, Noah etc, so after the big family fued in the Anu camp the fact that Enki/Lucifer was villified makes sense... None of these character's in the Old testiment are GOD, big God, the creator of all things, they are Warlords Annunaki, who messed with us to create workers, but then felt deep responsibility to keep us on the right path and so created riligious dogma to frighten us in to towing the line... It must have been quite a frighting experiance to more or less create a race phiscally and then watch that race go awol and start killing plundering and raping and behaving like total thugs.... off course they stepped in and said if you do that, you'll go to a big bad place called hell when you die!! Here's my commandments to live by... on the punishment of death other wise these young un eveoleved humans would have told them where to go... and there would have been hell on Earth. Also remember this came in after the Atlantians had all but destroid the planet and them selves with techolagy so I would imagine these Anunaki would have been a bit scared of letting their new human race have acces to technolagy... This fear has lasted up untill today. Look at all these secret Balck opps programes? They still believ they know whats best for us and we can't be trusted with technolagy.
A bit like the USA trying to police Iran, and being very sactimonious about Atomic weapons in the "Wrong hands", and refusing to look at the fact that the only nation in the world who has ever used the darn things on another nation is the USA?
That type of mentality.

Back to the bible,The word in ancient Aromaic for worship, actually means work for....

The whole bible is about Aliens... Look at the angels... in the bible they are flesh and blood, always blond, and walk accross fields and sit down to dinner, in Sodom and GOmroah the angels even managed to be gang raped... they were pretty pised off... they nuked the place...

Any way I went of on a bit of a rant there but in the end I don't know whether Steven is telling the truth, has been conned or what the new alain agenda or agenda's are for this planet right now...

I'm not excusing the Annunaki here but I'm understaning were they were comming from in their controle through religious fear tactics...

I guess very few people or aliens are there cackeling away going "I am so eveil and bad ... lke MIng the merciless, every one believes in what they are doing... Some are very empathetic some beleive you have to be cruel to be kind and some believe in the preservation of their kind before any thing else

Maybe we Earth humans have indeed as Steven says... a chance to unite for real and show the universe that yes even with all this inerfeance, race mixture, dogma diference and influence from negitive and positive interdimentional enetities, that we can become one and Earth can become a shinning example of agains all the odds... There is no seperation... If we can do it... any one can do it! I like to think that that's the path..
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I have some further thoughts though... Was BIll and Hilary...The head of the CIA, pretending they didn't know??? Just to keep Steven greer sweet and then get off the hook, when every one gets mighty ****** at being lied to, when this whole thing goes public and blows??? I don't know maybe Bill was supprised to find out but, isn't Hilary a Rodham? According to some info (I don't know how accurate) The Rodhams are a big Luciferian family?
The Illuminati are not the ones in control of the super black technologies. The NWO and the Illuminati are now separate entities. They work together in some aspects like in the Federal Reserve. However, they have been at odds with each other for some time because they have similar but different philosophies on how the world should be run. So yes, the Rodham family are part of the Rothschilds and friends network of inbred lunatics. However, they only have access to the super black magic, not the super black technologies. She probably knows that it would be like starting a gang like war between the two sides if the super black tech crowd was exposed by the super black magic crowd. The retaliation would be the exposure of the power elites from the illuminati side and how they do what they do. She probably did not want to risk this because she was not authorized to. This type of move would have to be authorized by the top of the pyramid before one of the layers of the pyramid could follow through with it.
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I think it is HILARIOUS and RIDICULOUS that Bill will be "interviewing" Kerry today on the radio show. I am guessing it is to once again "justify" the terrible behavior that all witnesses in that video with Greer. I wish like hell I could get back every cent that I gave PC over the last two years. It was a waste and I regret it wholeheartedly.
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After viewing the Camelot interview, I have to say this was a huge missed opportunity. Greer had some interesting things to say, but spent most of the time defending his position...which we didn't even clearly get to hear. Very unprofessional...and not at all helpful.
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Oh, come on Francie....what do you really think.
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im liking the then bill kerry interveiw.. sets the record straight.. i do however think that it was a bit wild for 1st timers to observe what they thought was an interveiw.. the easy thing to stop all this hoo haa would have been to call the video .. camelots debates greer.. easy peezy
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But, Francie don't you feel good that you were Part of a Whole in helping
in paying off her credit cards; helped her move from Sedona, AZ, Back to
LA La land Cali-for-nia, so she can work on the 'Valley Girl' thang; provided help in her going oversea's; so she could climb up on that stage ' Dragging poor art by the hand ' in front of stund, Bob Dean...

Question: Does that make us enablers...?

And that Rayedio show we pay for is the Bomb... [Rephrase; A Bomb.]

Here look at it like this: Each 1.00 bill is worth abt .08 each... It'll make
you feel better...

I do understand tho; I recovered yesterday... I had to walk it offf...

I also watched a Movie... Money Train [Chuckle]... Na, I lied abt the movie.
I really watched " Valley Girls." it made it alll understandable [Chuckle]...

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My view of the Dr. Greer interview is that overall it was indeed a bad interview. It has to be said that in the time leading up to the interview Kerry had posted some very negative remarks of Dr. Greer i.e. the “dangerous and insidious” comments on the Project Camelot home page. The other point is that it became clear – forcefully so as the interview progressed – that Kerry and Bill seemed intent upon ‘nailing’ Greer upon the issue of his expressed view that there were no ‘bad aliens’.

I think basically, it all boils down to the fact that Greer has a somewhat different perspective than Kerry and Bill, and that this is down to the type of witnesses that they have each interviewed and the contacts that they have made over the years. I would thus say that Greer’s view that there are no ‘bad aliens’ is a very carefully constructed THEORY based upon the evidence as he sees it. But that Kerry and Bill both, to my mind, hold to the view of the existence of ‘bad aliens’ due to their personal BELIEF in the truth of the testimony of certain of their most prominent witnesses. And here I would offer up the names of Henry Deacon and Dan Burisch.
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It reminds me of Bill Clinton...."I did not have sexual relations with that woman"


There are no hostile ET's. Please define hostile. Sure there is no open display of weapons, but.....
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I bring up this aspect of demons / entities to give an alternative explanation to what Dr. Greer has said regarding "Demons don't need UFO's to travel around in" along with the Annunaki information.

A. Is Dr. Greer still an athiest when it comes to believing in a God and demons (God's fallen children)?

B. Does Dr. Greer give any credence to the Annunaki Sumerian information?

If he does not accept a concept of God and demons then he won't really give credence to any biblical text. If he does not accept the Sumerian text regarding the Annunaki or the Mayans sky gods, then he won't listen to a negative ET idea either. I am pretty sure based on some of his interactions that he does give room for some negative entities who are not alien, but maybe stay in an astral realm unless they are brought out by some technology into the 3d realm.

The bible clearly says that God visited Ezekiel on earth by coming in a UFO. If God used a UFO then why wouldn't his / her children? The bible says they gave us secrets and there were offspring between human women and these male gods (fallen children) called Nephilim who were giants. They stood some 12 tro 15 feet tall, and Goliath was a descendant of them along with his 4 brothers.

There is archeological evidence of these giants. They had secret knowledge of the sciences including stars, medicine, music, fire, writing, government. The book of Enoch also speaks of these fallen ones and the hierarchy amongst them and that is where high magick of the Babylonians, Kaballah, and Masons comes from. The illuminati are said to serve these gods whose ultimate leader is Satan whom Ezekiel tells us is Lucifer one of the two morning stars. He was the most beautiful of all of God/dess' creation, perfect until pride was found in him. Then he fell and took a third of the children of God/dess with him, and has planned to overthrow God/dess realm since that time, and earth falls into that realm.

Corinthians tells us that Satan comes as an Angel (messenger) of light as a shining one. The original Chaldea for "snake" in Genesis is Nachash (Na Kash) and the accent used above that word in the manuscript is not translated snake but "shining one". Now, could it be that a shining one who is perfect in intelligence, cunning in speech, master manipulator able to cause a coup de tat in "heaven" might appear as a nice ET? I mean if I am an evil person and I want to destroy or take over an enemies land and use them, is it not better to have them run to me as a "friend" than see me as some evil dictator?

I am just throwing this out here to add something to the "all ET's are positive" with the idea that we may be involved in the highest sting operation of all time. What if this drama has been playing out for 20 or 30 thousand years, and we are finally in the final act of the play? There are many who report to having direct contact with higher density illuminated beings who warn us that we agreed to this 3d experience to grow and become creators within the Universe. That we could not understand the experience in our prior higher density state so we agreed to come to this being, Jehovah's, little realm, and in so doing lost much of our knowledge, but once we got here this Jehovah liked the game. This Jehovah has conned us through religion for eons and wiped our memories for the most part until in this final act we are waking up to who we truly are.

That in reality we are of a higher density than this 'Jehovah' and it is time to end the game and take what we have learned, but there is a possible trap for those not awake, and that if they follow these shining ones/ Annunaki, elohim/ gods we will find ourselves hitting 'restart' and have to go through another 20 or 30 thousand years to have a chance to get out of it. That earth is coming into a phase in the solar system that happens once every some 200 thousand years! That that is why we are in the final act, and there is so much activity and disinformation.

Have we been provided clues even in the bible and ancient texts? Have some come to us of truly higher density mind to show the way, and have warned us of this plan? Yes, we are positive loving beings, and the universe is full of them, but is there a place in our current experience of a Jehovah's realm and we are in the highest stakes poker game ever imagined?

I agree with Bill and Kerry, remain positive, but do not assume anything for nothing is proven one way or the other. For me, it is up to each of us to be vigilant and not put people in a false sense of security or a state of fear. Be awake, watch, prepare by raising our energy levels and walk in Divine oneness within the highest energy state possible. If we do this then we will not fall into the terrible paradigm that Dr. Greer seems to focus on and that is the us vs. them one that leads to more warfare and no enlightenment.

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Unified Serenity, my apologies if this is offensive to your beliefs, but do you know that JHWH (Jahweh / Jehovah) was apparently known as Satan or Satanael by the Sumerians and indeed in all surrounding countries? Even the ancient Jews / Israelites often used the name Seth as an alternative to JHWH.
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You do not offend me. I know this and think it is true, it does not mean there is not truth in the bible. The God of the NT is not the God of the OT. If they were the same then God seems schizo.

I think stories can be convoluted, and It is quite possible that the fall is dealing with a higher fall into which this system was taken over by Jehovah who worked this deal for a 3d experience with us.

I am just putting some thoughts out there to see some alternatives. I am open to hear what you think. As far as my beliefs go, I am a mystic and believe in ultimate Divine oneness with all even negative polarities. We are all on a path of growth, and I am pretty sure I have not always been an STO being, though in this life I pretty much have been from my earliest memories.

Oh, don't get me wrong, my biggest dilemma is still my ego. But over the last 10 years I feel as though it has been a time of great learning and an ability to enjoy the journey and admit when I don't know, am wrong, and focus on walking in unity whenever possible. My latest lesson has been really love those who don't love or like me. I actually appreciate when I encounter someone like that and can exercise loving them in spite of how they treat me. I am learning it in grace so as to not be a doormat. It's a wonderful experience.

Thanks again, and thank you for your tenderness in the reply you did give.

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He said he was raised athiest, he did not say he still is one.
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He said he was raised athiest, he did not say he still is one.
I do believe the following are what my ignorant mind calls questions:

A. Is Dr. Greer still an athiest when it comes to believing in a God and demons (God's fallen children)?

B. Does Dr. Greer give any credence to the Annunaki Sumerian information?


If he does not accept a concept of God and demons then he won't really give credence to any biblical text. If he does not accept the Sumerian text regarding the Annunaki or the Mayans sky gods, then he won't listen to a negative ET idea either.

I also though may ignorantly believe that beginning a statement with "If" means something that might be, not a definitive statement. Please inform me if I am as ignorant as you seem to think I am, and if so, please elucidate upon such knowledge so as I might become as wise and kind as you Tone3jaguar. I appreciate any help you may offer in this area.
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