Let's discuss Zurich debate about the swine flu shots

[metaw3]

The Zurich conference was broadcasted live at the last minute:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15277

We caught the 19pm panel discussion:
http://www.groundcrew.ch/logistics.html

Dan Burisch, Marcia McDowell, Brian O'Leary, David Wilcock and Bill Ryan were on the stage. At some point the swine flu shots were brought up. David took a stand against vaccines and Dan for vaccines. Some in the audience were shouting at Dan and it was quite intense.

[metaw3]

Update on the Camelot page from Kerry:

11 July 2009 -- update

• I formally want to apologize here for any misunderstanding regarding what is going on at the Zurich Conference. I was not invited, I cannot attest to anything that is being talked about on stage in Zurich.

I, Kerry Cassidy, am absolutely opposed to vaccinations of any kind. I do not know why Dan Burisch is encouraging people to get vaccinated.

I have not listened to the broadcast however, my opinion on being vaccinated is firm. I would not recommend them under any condition.

Kerry Cassidy

[MoV]

I have recorded the last two and a half hours..

file is uploading now

http://rapidshare.com/files/25472485...43_09.mp3.html

109 MB

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by MoV

I have recorded the last two and a half hours..

file is uploading now

http://rapidshare.com/files/25472485...43_09.mp3.html

109 MB

Download limit reached....................

Barry

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i think ill take cliff highs view on dan burisch.. hmmm vaccines. hes either disinfo(cliff high states) or a schill fo the illuminati. way to totally discredit your self entirely.. any shred of respect he had left is prob now out fo the window..

[Ara]

Hi guys,

I see the download limit has been reached on your upload MoV. Thank you for taking the time to upload the file for others, that was really nice of you, thoughtful.

So, does anyone know if there is somewhere else we can go to watch this conference? I've googled but not found anything.

Cheers!

Ara

[mntruthseeker]

The flue vaccine is not good at all. It has live virus in the shot.

I would advice people to load up on vitamin D3 or C. Colloidal Silver or MMS before they come to shove those needles in our arms

[Ara]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Honestly what is wrong with david wilcox? I have always felt a little unsure of him, cause he is pretty cocky but he is way off on the vaccinations. I hope he takes the extra steps to do some research now. I am shocked at his response

Hi mntruthseeker, what did David say in regards to vaccines?

Gosh I'd love to watch this conference! LOL

Cheers!
Ara

edit: thanks to metaw3 I've listened to David's opinion on this subject.

[metaw3]

I have put it on youtube. I'll remove it later. It starts at 8:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzJvV...x=0&playnext=1

[Ara]

Thanks so much metaw3!

Cheers!
Ara

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by metaw3

I have put it on youtube. I'll remove it later. It starts at 8:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzJvV...510412&index=0

I LOVE YOU!!!!

THanks a million!!!!!!!!!

[KathyT]

Before you make a decision about taking any vaccine for the "Swine Flu", you might want to see what happened the last time our government told us to take a vaccine back in 1976.

Video : CBS 60 Minutes -1976 Swine Flu Vaccine

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...paganda_webcam

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by kathyt

before you make a decision about taking any vaccine for the "swine flu", you might want to see what happened the last time our government told us to take a vaccine back in 1976.

Video : Cbs 60 minutes -1976 swine flu vaccine

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...paganda_webcam

well said kathy t

[jem284]

Thank you so much for putting that up on you tube
I missed the first part.
I wish that I could ask if the studies that Dan is referring to are studies that he has done himself or are they studies that he has read about.
Because those studies can be manipulated to give a different conclusion.
Also, I would like to ask him ... What about the mercury and formaldehyde that is in the vaccines. I know that is not good for us and also what about the increase of autism in children.
Does he know about those studies.
It would be helpful if those questions were asked if he is even aware of those studies.

Originally Posted by jem284

Thank you so much for putting that up on you tube
I missed the first part.
I wish that I could ask if the studies that Dan is referring to are studies that he has done himself or are they studies that he has read about.
Because those studies can be manipulated to give a different conclusion.
Also, I would like to ask him ... What about the mercury and formaldehyde that is in the vaccines. I know that is not good for us and also what about the increase of autism in children.
Does he know about those studies.
It would be helpful if those questions were asked if he is even aware of those studies.

Thank you, because that my exactly my thought when I was listening to it. Either he is being fed erroneous data or he is aware that it is false.

Statistics and studies are slanted in any direction those paying for them want the results to show.

[tone3jaguar]

I cant believe we are still on the swine flu BS, it only worked in the first few people infected. We are still discussing this? WTF? Are there not more interesting things we could be discussing that are actually relevant? Who exactly is it that says we are all going to get the needle anyway? George Green? That guy has been so far off in his predictions lately that I think he is just show boating any more.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I cant believe we are still on the swine flu BS, it only worked in the first few people infected. We are still discussing this? WTF? Are there not more interesting things we could be discussing that are actually relevant? Who exactly is it that says we are all going to get the needle anyway? George Green? That guy has been so far off in his predictions lately that I think he is just show boating any more.

With all due respect tone3jaguar, we are talking about the swine flu because it looks to be the catalyst for events transpiring this fall...forced vaccinations, the use of fema camps, martial law, etc.

On the Morning Show with Merideth Viera the representative from the CDC was on saying we are going to have three (3) vaccines that will be mandatory this fall, this could be the thing that starts everything into motion and why I feel it is the single most important issue right now especially using it as the vehicle to wake people up.

In Truth

[MoV]

Sorry I forgot about the download limit...

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

With all due respect tone3jaguar, we are talking about the swine flu because it looks to be the catalyst for events transpiring this fall...forced vaccinations, the use of fema camps, martial law, etc.

On the Morning Show with Merideth Viera the representative from the CDC was on saying we are going to have three (3) vaccines that will be mandatory this fall, this could be the thing that starts everything into motion and why I feel it is the single most important issue right now especially using it as the vehicle to wake people up.

In Truth

Will there be a way to warn people through email about these vaccines? I am not sure how to suggest the avoidance of such vaccines to family without sounding like a loon.

[Moxie]

First of all, it's not swine flu, it's H1N1. All you can do is muster up and forward this: http://www.kickthemallout.com/articl...u_Hoax_Exposed

Have you even watched that entire presentation? And then the one above posted by mntruthseeker?

It's quite possible that many of you here are afraid to forward any of this to your friends & family because of "what they might think of you".

Just forward the links with no comments attached. It's up to them to watch.

Moxie,

I can't view these right now. Do they go into how the virus has mutated in each continent, similar to the way a population control virus was rumoured to do a year or so ago. It would only effect certain races in each country it was introduced. It appears to me that this is exactly what it is doing now, targeting, maybe not races but socio-economic classes and health impaired individuals. My guess is that the so called healthy individuals that died after contracting the virus had some undiagnosed condition that made them vulnerable to it.

If this is indeed the case, what good would one vaccine do to prevent contracting it? You would need a separate vaccine for each mutation. I know it's ultimately all about profit and weeding out the undesirables in society. This is the only truth that makes any sense from all the information I've read.

[Karen]

OMG - have you seen the 1 hour Dr. David Ayoub video about the aluminum adjuvant in the vaccines? It was posted on the Camelot main page.
I am only 20 min into it and I've have to peel myself off the floor or ceiling at least a dozen times.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...23476709184666

Then here's my article about how vaccines create
Stealth Virus Shock and Awe

Transferring invisibly from person to person, from mother to fetus, from husband to wife, from sibling to sibling, and leaving virtually no person untouched by its invisible footprints, the stealth virus hides in our vaccinations, hides from our immune systems, and hides from detection by our doctors. Where there is normally no transfer of viral diseases between different animal species, the stealth virus travels between species, and even between you and your pets.
http://www.childrenofthenewearth.com...aren/article18

[cosmictexan]

The discussion was hard to hear because of the guy yelling the whole time, but I think there was a big misunderstanding about the subject. The most recent update now says "

"Please pass to Bill & Kerry, if you please, that my Prez. Of Eagles Disobey (Marcia) just issued finances to me (as Director) to conduct a full-on “vaccine” investigation, with specific emphasis on claims of mis-use, Zurich (CH), etc. (Please also ask for historical information about Europe’s Concerns to be sent to me.)

Please ask for any “evidence” of such claims to be sent to support@projectcamelot.org

with ATT: Dan Evidence

in the subject line.

I will report on this investigation at “Awake & Aware” in L.A. – then on Eagles Disobey. We have heard them.

Pass my love to them."

Dan

This is found on Camelot's home page. I guess Dan and the some of the upset people must have talked after the conference and come to some agreement for Dan to do an investigation. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I have been thinking about since the live conference. It just seemed so strange for Dan to agree with vaccines. He talked about a vaccine database. Does anyone know about a database with vaccine info?

I've heard about it on another website. It's appauling! I don't think this flu virus is the only one they're using it in. Why is there a new and improved MMR vaccine? What was wrong with the original one????????????????????

Why are all school children required to have this new and improved vaccine before they return to school in the fall??????? Even if they already had the original vaccine???:sneaky 2:

[Ara]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

The discussion was hard to hear because of the guy yelling the whole time, but I think there was a big misunderstanding about the subject. The most recent update now says "

"Please pass to Bill & Kerry, if you please, that my Prez. Of Eagles Disobey (Marcia) just issued finances to me (as Director) to conduct a full-on “vaccine” investigation, with specific emphasis on claims of mis-use, Zurich (CH), etc. (Please also ask for historical information about Europe’s Concerns to be sent to me.)

Please ask for any “evidence” of such claims to be sent to support@projectcamelot.org

with ATT: Dan Evidence

in the subject line.

I will report on this investigation at “Awake & Aware” in L.A. – then on Eagles Disobey. We have heard them.

Pass my love to them."

Dan

This is found on Camelot's home page. I guess Dan and the some of the upset people must have talked after the conference and come to some agreement for Dan to do an investigation. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I have been thinking about since the live conference. It just seemed so strange for Dan to agree with vaccines. He talked about a vaccine database. Does anyone know about a database with vaccine info?

Personally I'd like to see Dr Dan Burisch, Dr Bill Deagle, Dr Len Horwowitz and Dr Robert Gallo all together in front of Bill and Kerry's camera, the subject being Vaccinations and Inoculations with a sub category of Morgellans Disease. It's all about getting the right people together for the facts to be revealled.

Heck I'd even be happy with just Drs Burisch and Deagle talking the talk. They are intellectually on a par, with both having brilliant minds and each a deep seated and earnest desire to get their truths out to the world.