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Old 05-12-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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Mankind has shown that any being outwardly appearing out of the norm is rejected and is perceived as a threat to him.To alleviate the fears
inborn within mankind OPI have utilised advanced genetic research to
lessen the shock factor when interacting with mankind on various levels.


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Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.


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Old 05-12-2009, 05:45 PM   #2
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Even though the health conditions of The Watcher continue to be a concern we will allow him to return here for direct postings within the next 48 hours. We will of course continue to monitor here and should the need arise, buffer The Watcher against any unnecessary situations. We act as go-betweens and have limited direct resources available to us in specific fields, we call upon others whom have more direct access. Later it is hoped to answer the above postings and also to state our current views on Full Ufo Disclosure. Thankyou for your patience.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:31 PM   #3
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VIEWS TOWARDS FULL UFO DISCLOSURE.............

Avalon and Camelot members should try to perceive that should Disclosure processes begin it will be as a layered process, the top, the most easy and non destructive layer, will be official proclamation that this planet has been visited by other life forms and continues to be visited by same.
This will be an official acknowledgement that an alien race using technology far advanced than ours, commonly referred to as Ufo's, have been interacting with our planet for quite some time.
This will be passed forwards with the acknowledgement that many nations have been studying, researching, investigating this phenomena, overtly and covertly.
Officials will state something along the lines that after many years of close scrutiny no threat has been perceived by these visitors and that the various nations feel the public safety is secured and continued with the release of this information.

THAT IS THE TOP, OUTERMOST LAYER OF THE DISCLOSURE 'ONION'...........

As we begin to peel off towards the next layer, accountability looms on the horizon for many, but not just yet, the next layer is also relatively 'safe'...............
This layer centres around various nations acquiring pieces of hardware that have crashed and been retrieved, with the idea of trying to ascertain its workings, usually in order to try and back engineer and use the acquired technology to further advance our own. This will be glossed over as much as they can get away with but with full knowledge certain nations will have to come clean with their various retrievals and the special projects set up to reverse engineer hardware that has found its way into their possession. A brief mention of special projects and secure facilities will follow but will be limited in its release.

These first two layers are of little consequence in the big picture and although the various nations will seemingly resist releasing the information they know very little in the way of repercussions will ensue post disclosure, they know that this is really data already accepted by most.It is the next few layers that they fear being peeled open to public scrutiny. For here there will be much in the way of accountability, many agencies will have to shut down specific projects and there could very well be legal proceedings brought about in post disclosure times.The publics trust in the Governments, the Military, Intelligence and other Agencies will be at an all time low if these deeper layers were peeled open.

THESE DEEPER LAYERS PERTAIN TO AREAS SUCH AS........

(NOT IN LAYERED ORDER OF COURSE)

Alien Abductions.
Mutilation cases.
MILAB abductions....also joint Alien/Military abductions.
True nature of technology advancement gleaned from Alien technologies, including other sources of energy.
Genetic experimentation/engineering/enhancements.
Mindcontrolling technologies.
Facilities whose remit within deep black projects cover some/all of above, such as Dulce, Peasemore, Lambourne, China Lakes, etc etc etc.
These and others will be virtually impossible for inclusion within full disclosure, or at least will take many years to be revealed openly.

Perhaps that is sufficient for now, more another time.



With the permission of Avalon and Camelot members we would like to input at some stage information regarding the alleged Dulce facility, Stargate technologies, alleged MJ12 data and a few others.........at some stage

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Old 05-12-2009, 07:34 PM   #4
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The Watchers,

Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.
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In short, those OPI that walk among us have gone undetected because of the genetic alterations they have undertaken in order to walk freely among us, simple as that.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:14 AM   #5
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Alien Abductions.
Mutilation cases.
MILAB abductions....also joint Alien/Military abductions.
True nature of technology advancement gleaned from Alien technologies, including other sources of energy.
Genetic experimentation/engineering/enhancements.
Mindcontrolling technologies.
Facilities whose remit within deep black projects cover some/all of above, such as Dulce, Peasemore, Lambourne, China Lakes, etc etc etc.
These and others will be virtually impossible for inclusion within full disclosure, or at least will take many years to be revealed openly.

Perhaps that is sufficient for now, more another time.

Very interesting summary. I'm guessing gravity manipulation technology, and the science behind it, falls somewhere in this list. Can you give some idea as to how sensitive this information is? After all, it's pretty obvious UFOs aren't using rockets.

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With the permission of Avalon and Camelot members we would like to input at some stage information regarding the alleged Dulce facility, Stargate technologies, alleged MJ12 data and a few others.........at some stage
Don't hold back on my account. I've enjoyed reading this thread for quite a while, though I usually just sit back and watch. Any information on any of these topics would be of interest to me.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:21 AM   #6
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You're right I think most people accept the first few layers. News flash: Confidence in governments, military, politicians and government agencies is at an all time low. I don't mean to be scarcastic but I think most of us realise the game that's been being played for some time now.

I think most of us are interested in the end game and the OPI/government power struggles.
 
Old 05-13-2009, 02:44 AM   #7
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In short, those OPI that walk among us have gone undetected because of the genetic alterations they have undertaken in order to walk freely among us, simple as that.
Thanks for the reply. I hope Barry is okay. Please pass my deepest regards to him.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:26 AM   #8
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The Watchers ... what time frame is accurate for the official release to the public from a government on the top two "layer" of disclosure?

I think some governments who know, are under pressure to release the top two "layers" of disclosure before 2012.

The preperations for disclosure running faster, see presents in mainstream media and movie industry.

Thanx to The Watchers and welcome back Barry
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:01 AM   #9
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The Watchers,

Can you elaborate how OPI have utilised advanced genetic research in the described scenario above please? Many thanks.
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All the Best
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OPI = PI = 3.141
O = Circle.

Nothing is coincidence.

Also - good to have you back Barry. Please take it easy
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Old 05-14-2009, 05:17 PM   #10
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Hi Guys, the lads are allowing me to return here, under supervision, good to be back, missed you guys. Have a lot of catching up to do looks like as well. Bit by bit i will get back to routine so excuse my slowness for a while. and to make certain you know its me and not them i will leave my usual sig at bottom. I see they have made some changes here as it is. Oh well!! Cheers, see you all later on

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Old 05-15-2009, 06:05 PM   #11
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Apologies to all here at Avalon and Camelot. The return of The Watcher will have to be postponed unfortunately. His return was a little premature, his health is worsening but being monitored closely. All for now
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:29 PM   #12
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PROJECT CAMELOT MISSION STATEMENT.........

Expressly on behalf of The Watcher aka The Voice

We shall prevail.

Being of sound mind, heart and spirit, we each declare the following to be true:

• We have no intention of ending our own lives.

• We will not tolerate suppression of our truths, our ideas, our freedoms, or our work.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out... no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

• If it is ever claimed that we have committed suicide, disappeared, been institutionalized, or sold out financially or in any other way to self-interested factions, we declare those claims false and fabricated.

• We testify, assert and affirm without reservation, on behalf of all those who have dedicated their lives to the ending of secrecy and the promotion of freedom of thought, ideas and expression... that we shall prevail.

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Old 05-22-2009, 09:59 PM   #13
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Mr Miles Johnston has recently released a furtherance to his pet activity of filming and then placing within the media the whole series of claims by The Watcher. Now we have news of a 3 disc set DVD for full commercial sale. The motives of this gentleman are not fully known to us but we view closely his actions with regard to The Watcher. Unlike many others we have seen rugged determination by The Watcher to continue facing his critics and remaining true to his oroginal disclosures for 15 years. In the beginning he was told to play down much of the data he was allowed to release, and act in a certain casual manner in the way the data was delivered on tape, an orchestrated manner was forced upon him at the time, for which he had no say. The data, and the way it was to be delivered, remained out of The Watcher's control.

YOUTUBE BASES 2 TAKE 2 FURTHER INTERVIEWS


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Old 05-22-2009, 10:08 PM   #14
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Certain specific data can now be released regarding The Watcher, data which has been denied an open platform until now. The original data as presented in the files contained the tip of the iceberg and was all that was allowed to be made public. Between 2005 and until recently, much greater detailed data was released via a small private forum organised by The watcher and contained a small number of experiencers and those involved within specific programs. These individuals were brought together into one safe haven by The Watcher beginning in late 2005. Since the shutdown of that forum two or three of those original individuals have had access to this site. Enough for now

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Old 05-25-2009, 08:43 PM   #15
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Placed for input from members.............http://www.rense.com/general85/calmw.htm

http://www.foundingfather1776.com/

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Old 05-27-2009, 12:19 AM   #16
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phase two silence is golden
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:24 PM   #17
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QUOTE from Eve Lorgen.............

"Many alien abductees and especially those who have experienced some level of military/secret government level of involvement in their experiences, often suffer from PTSD and many anxiety disorders and addictions. In addition to these conditions many have physical health issues such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, immune disorders and gynecological anomalies."


http://www.evelorgen.com/index.html


THIS ONE SEEMS WELL RESEARCHED AND IS ON THE BALL.........
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:24 PM   #18
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The Watcher's full recovery may take longer than previously estimated, his condition is not quite so chronic as earlier but still requires great care. With the permission of members here at Avalon and Camelot we will remain a little longer, minding the fort (The Watcher would grin at that )
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The Watcher's full recovery may take longer than previously estimated, his condition is not quite so chronic as earlier but still requires great care. With the permission of members here at Avalon and Camelot we will remain a little longer, minding the fort (The Watcher would grin at that )

Send the Watcher my regards! I hope his health improves soon.

In your previous post of symptoms of a ET/military abduction scenario you mentioned gynecological abnormalities. What specific type of abnormalities are we talking about? I'm not surprised about the other symptoms as they are common with any tramatic event but the later intrigues me. I would think phobias would be another common problem for these abductees. Many people chalk up their phobias to past life memories and that is certainly something to think about but I tend to think a great number of them are caused by these abductions.

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Old 05-30-2009, 03:35 PM   #20
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Send the Watcher my regards! I hope his health improves soon.

In your previous post of symptoms of a ET/military abduction scenario you mentioned gynecological abnormalities. What specific type of abnormalities are we talking about? I'm not surprised about the other symptoms as they are common with any tramatic event but the later intrigues me. I would think phobias would be another common problem for these abductees. Many people chalk up their phobias to past life memories and that is certainly something to think about but I tend to think a great number of them are caused by these abductions.
The specific abnormalities would better be stated by someone more conversant with that side of physical affects, sorry we cannot be more helpful
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:25 AM   #21
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QUOTE from Eve Lorgen.............

"Many alien abductees and especially those who have experienced some level of military/secret government level of involvement in their experiences, often suffer from PTSD and many anxiety disorders and addictions. In addition to these conditions many have physical health issues such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, immune disorders and gynecological anomalies."


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THIS ONE SEEMS WELL RESEARCHED AND IS ON THE BALL.........
I am actually shocked that someone actually mentioned this, but not surprised that it is a symptom.
Like Sleepingnomore, I wouldn't mind if you knew, could list some of the gynecological symptoms. But, how close would I be if I took my own guess of:
Early onset of menstruation
irregular menstruation (forget a calendar)
severely painful menstruation
scar tissue or thickening of uterus wall
tipped or turned uterus
anaorgasmia
phantom pregnancy (this would be medically diagnosed as being pregnant, but at some point during gestation, it is discovered that there is no fetus or baby in the womb.)

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Old 05-30-2009, 03:37 PM   #22
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I am actually shocked that someone actually mentioned this, but not surprised that it is a symptom.
Like Sleepingnomore, I wouldn't mind if you knew, could list some of the gynecological symptoms. But, how close would I be if I took my own guess of:
Early onset of menstruation
irregular menstruation (forget a calendar)
severely painful menstruation
scar tissue or thickening of uterus wall
tipped or turned uterus
anaorgasmia
phantom pregnancy (this would be medically diagnosed as being pregnant, but at some point during gestation, it is discovered that there is no fetus or baby in the womb.)
Thankyou Kari, those you quote are indeed part of this, there are others but we feel another expert in these matters would be best to detail
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:03 AM   #23
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NOTES FYI

Preston Nichols claims he knows and has met Whitemore (Sentinel, head of AL/499 at the time of The Watchers placement in the facility). Preston states Whitemore was overseeing program operations on both sides of the Atlantic.Personal data and a description of Whitemore was never released publicly, The Watcher kept this data out of the public domain with the hope that future research would come to light.Preston has knowledge of the facilities and programs in use.Preston states the similarity between the Montauk chair and the trip seat should now become clear. With some research..........The London chair.
Preston confirms NSA being integral to operations and program controls.
Preston confirms codes used inside the Mannequin program as stated by The Watcher.

On a connected, but side note. we find it strange that, in the case of Dulce and security guard Thomas Castello, that with security being so very stringent at such facilities, that Castello managed to take in a camera or two and roam around taking stills and a surveillence videotape film. Then exiting the facility with camera and tape..There is something very wrong here. Security at such facilities, Peasemore included, would make it totally impossible for this to occur.The ONLY possible explanation if we are to believe the very short silent film segment is indeed from the interior of the Dulce facility, would be that the film removal was allowed and sanctioned by the controllers of Dulce, for whatever reason, whatever agenda.Same for the alleged 25 B/W photographs taken by Castello, of which, has anyone actually seen these? Not the alleged sketches which have appeared on the internet but the photo's themselves.
The gaping holes in the Dulce claim need addressing. Simply because other individuals lay claim to having involvement with Dulce should not steer one towards accepting the claims. Its called perpetuating the myth in certain circles. Others have made lavish, extraordinary almost unbelievable claims about Dulce with no substantiation or verification at all. The repeating of original claims by others over a period of time seems to have cemented the facility into the halls of acceptance by the research community.
The Dulce business might well be true, all we are pointing out is the fact that with such severe security it would have been impossible to obtain photographic data and remove secure documentation without inside help.
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The Watcher unlocked the door and pried it open, we have removed the door completely, readiness for phase three ultimate disclosures......stay tuned
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signs in the skies.........diversionary tactics to be employed
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