Is Smoking good for you?!

[Luminari]

I think smoking is a sign of low intelligence... sorry if anyone here is a smoker.

I dont even want to be friends with people who smoke I find it that repulsive.

I cant believe so many people still smoke... what do they get out of it?? They
look like fools, smell rancid, and waste alot of money and time which is even more precious.

Maybe I could understand if they were chocolate flavoured or something but they taste like ASS.

Slow-motion SUICIDE is all it is.

[Orion11]

I think smoking is a sign of low intelligence.

lol, tell that to Dr. Carl Sagan. lol

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Orion11

lol, tell that to Dr. Carl Sagan. lol

Ha! Sagan wasted all that time supposedly looking for alien life in the distant stars when they were here visiting the whole time, he could have gone into his backyard with a pair of binoculars and an open mind.. at the right time of course.

A great example of how a university education can make you less intelligent.

Ive read 'Cosmos' and watched his videos, I do have some respect for the guy, don't get me wrong.

[Luminari]

Kathleen you are obviously a smoker then.

Do not be offended, I never said it was a 'fact' but it is 'my truth' based on the premise that anyone inhaling deadly gas into their body can't be that intelligent.

Maybe I should have said 'Wise' instead (or am I digging a bigger hole here).

OK SMOKERS YOU WIN, YOU ARE GENIUS'S LIKE EINSTEIN, FEEL BETTER NOW?

I hope you can get past my aversion to smokers and still be cyber-mates

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Luminari

Kathleen you are obviously a smoker then.

Do not be offended, I never said it was a 'fact' but it is 'my truth' based on the premise that anyone inhaling deadly gas into their body can't be that intelligent.

Maybe I should have said 'Wise' instead (or am I digging a bigger hole here).

OK SMOKERS YOU WIN, YOU ARE GENIUS'S LIKE EINSTEIN, FEEL BETTER NOW?

I hope you can get past my aversion to smokers and still be cyber-mates

OK Luminari you are the perfect one to ask this... what 'chord' in you is struck when you encounter a smoker or see it?

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Christo888

OK Luminari you are the perfect one to ask this... what 'chord' in you is struck when you encounter a smoker or see it?

Im sorry im not sure what you mean christo

as a musician I tend to take the word chord literaly.

If you mean emotion.. isnt it clear from my existing posts on this thread?

peace

[BROOK]

Seriously...anyone who really believes cigarettes are good for you has got to be deluding themselves....

Our body was not meant to be abused by such chemicals...God only knows what they put in the tobacco...

[Dantheman62]

Hey BROOK did you see my post above with old cigarette commercials?
They make it sound so good, LOL

[BROOK]

Yep..they make it sexie

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by Luminari

Im sorry im not sure what you mean christo

as a musician I tend to take the word chord literaly.

If you mean emotion.. isnt it clear from my existing posts on this thread?

peace

A musician... awesome. Chord, note, tone, tuned-in.

Yes... your posts are very clear, on que. I was just curious why you were so outspoken about it and what 'chord' it struck; an ex-smoker yourself perhaps.

[Swanny]

Hey what's wrong with whistlers????

[paul1972]

here's a shorted list with stuff found in a cigarette from the brand "Natural American Spirit" ( by using a Hulda Clark syncrometer):

Cadmium, Clorex, Arsenic, Retenone, Mercury, Platinum, Benzene, Nickel , Copper, Patulin, Aflatoxin, Dysprosium, Thulium, Malonic Acid.

If your body can't get rid of these toxics, obviously your body will get very sick in the long run.

Cancers are caused by a parasite and they like to settle in places like smokers lungs, so if you don't get rid of the parasites there's a big chance of getting cancer (according to Hulda Clark).

Use a Hulda Clark Zapper, Rife machine or MMS to kill the buggers and get rid of toxins in your body and you'll be fine..

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by paul1972

here's a shorted list with stuff found in a cigarette from the brand "Natural American Spirit" ( by using a Hulda Clark syncrometer):

Cadmium, Clorex, Arsenic, Retenone, Mercury, Platinum, Benzene, Nickel , Copper, Patulin, Aflatoxin, Dysprosium, Thulium, Malonic Acid.

If your body can't get rid of these toxics, obviously your body will get very sick in the long run.

Cancers are caused by a parasite and they like to settle in places like smokers lungs, so if you don't get rid of the parasites there's a big chance of getting cancer (according to Hulda Clark).

Use a Hulda Clark Zapper, Rife machine or MMS to kill the buggers and get rid of toxins in your body and you'll be fine..

A Hulda Clark fan. Maybe getting healthy isn't that hard, seems more like; does one believe it could be that simple!!!

The food supply and water may not be any safer than cigarettes. Tap water (the chemicals in it) will turn your mind into that sheep mentality, shrink your organs, and plug up (grease and gums accumulation) your 'lymph' and kidneys.

Crazy world... how many people get sick who've never smoked compared to just smokers getting sick... from anything?

How many people die in hospitals or under the care of doctors because they prescribed the wrong
presription etc., or get a staff infection which is now in epidemic proportions throughout hospitals nationwide.

Even Jim Humble in his ebook about MMS stated that Heart Attacks are simply from a Vit. C deficiency. Each cig. uses up 100 mg of vit. C, so a smoker could have a heart attack if they don't intake enough Vit. C.

Does smoking cause heart attacks? No! But a lack of Vit. C does. Wow, that opens up a huge debate.

Is smoking good for you I doubt it.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Christo888

A musician... awesome. Chord, note, tone, tuned-in.

Yes... your posts are very clear, on que. I was just curious why you were so outspoken about it and what 'chord' it struck; an ex-smoker yourself perhaps.

Not an ex-smoker no, just someone who has to breathe the filth in passively.
If no one started a thread on smoking I would never have brought it up..
I dont want to continue this dialogue christo.. as fun as it is, all the smokers are ganging up on me

Originally Posted by Swanny

Hey what's wrong with whistlers????

Here we go again...

I have people walk right past me several times a day whistling at work.. like their brains have fallen out the side of their heads and they are on retard-autopilot or something. I dont understand it.. simple pleasures for simple people.

[Luminari]

I just held up a red-flag to all the whistling smokers out there...

help!

I'd better run, the whistlers are coming, thank goodness there's no sound on this forum!!

[Luminari]

If I helped one smoker see their fashionable faux pas in a different light as a result of them reading this thread and causing them to become more healthy.

[Swanny]

I think it's great to hear a happy bloke whistling while he's working

[Dantheman62]

Just whistle while you work! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY3al...eature=related

[Swanny]

Whistle while you work Dads army style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ndvG...eature=related

[Neo]

Bill Hicks on non smokers -

"I'd quit smoking today if I didn't think I'd become one of you".

“I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?. . . ........... Non-smokers die every day".

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Neo

Bill Hicks on non smokers -

"I'd quit smoking today if I didn't think I'd become one of you".

“I have something to tell you non-smokers that I know for a fact that you don't know, and I feel it's my duty to pass on information at all times. Ready?. . . ........... Non-smokers die every day".

Bill Hicks on Smoking

Bill Hicks on non-smokers

Anything has it's pros and cons. Smoking helps you to focus and concentrate. It's not so much the nicotine that's bad for you as the additives they put into the cigerettes to addict you. The heat from the smoke you inhale is detrimental to your respiratory system.

Don't buy all the hype by the government about the healthcare costs associated with smokers, it's higher for alcohics and drug addicts. If it came from a Government sponsored study the results are just as biased as if the results came from a tobacco industry sponsored study.

It's not recommended for good health but I don't buy that in moderation it's as bad for you as the campaigns they put out against it (especially if you're smoking pure tobacco).

Just something to think about.

[macrostheblack]

We are all different and one mans meat is another mans poison.

Now, by this i mean that we are all born with different strengths and weaknesses. For some, smoking actually helps them get through a tremendous personal problem. It can bolster one to continue focus upon a needed/desired goal.

Others may need another form of drug to get through.

What matters is not how it effects you for nearly everything here right now tarnishes the body in some form or another. Its about pre life choice and then enviroment you will be faced with. Some will find nicoteen suitable to assist in carrying them through their journey. Others will drink/eat/shrink/OCD/mental illness etc.

We all come here to help our development, our need to assist the earth, our need to help others learn from our mistakes. Sometimes someone has to make the gravest error in order to teach future generations and show them or scare them into the correct path.

All this is intertwined with us all in our development.

We make no mistakes in our lifes - only present new avenues to walk down which ultimatley help others.

[Christo888]

Cool topic for a thread...

How about some interesting tid bits to add to the mix.

Opium is added to the paper which is a neurotransmitter and increases mental alertness, sharpness, and psychic openness.

Though taxing on the body to neutralize the toxins all the time, but think of it this way the body raises its threshold of tolerance of foreign invaders so it has an elevated 'on guard' (maybe an increased white blood cell count) attention in order to constantly rid the body of the toxins (though over time the toxins may win out if the person really lets there guard down). Compared to those who may not have as much toxins to get rid of- the body may get lazy or not be on as high of an alert to foreign invaders hence non-smokers may get sick easier because they don’t have elevated thresholds of immune response.

Of course of those that quit smoking the biggest complaint is that they can't think or focus anymore... so could they if they just added neurotransmitter supplements until the brain began to produce them again normally, IF the right kind of neurotransmitters are available?

Shamans use psychotropic’s from the Rain Forest and the are able to communicate with the other dimensions and actually get the answers to their questions through this method virtually anytime they want. It is the neurotransmitters that help them see differently but on a much higher potency level as that of opium or nicotine effects. Hence, why our history is full of pretty much every culture having peace pipe ceremonies’ involving smoking some form of tobacco or plant leaf (of course not corporately tainted)!

Besides, every single plant on this planet is made out of sunlight converted into sugar proteins which have been converted thus by the chaotic process of photosynthesis- how do you think plants grow!

So smoking 'plants' is smoking the Sun... sugar. And ya, too much of a good thing is never enough but smoking toxic substance manufactured by corporations is probably not a good idea. Many of the natural cigarette company’s were bought up by the bigger corporate tobacco companies.

I have a big question... why is there such a powerful attraction, draw, addiction to smoking and the human body? Is it just simply a stupid bad habit or is there some other benefit from smoking that tobacco companies know about in order to attract/create smokers but they don't want anyone to know what that attraction is (I am not speaking of the addictive nature part of it) because they want you to have to buy cigs of course?

[Blisstasista]

Originally Posted by Kathleen

that was ignorant.


Smokers:
Albert Einstein
Winston Churchill
Alfred Hitchcock
Thomas Edison
Alexander Graham Bell
Robert Oppenheimer
Edwin Hubble
Sigmund Freud

Thanks, Kathleen, but you forgot to put me on that list . . .