Questions for THEWATCHER

[Egg]

Of course Humble - I appreciated your honesty in our last conversation and you get the respect due to you as you show others.


So let me explain what I am going to do and more importantly, why.

Avalon is at the cutting edge of the cusp of awakening - more people here are in tune with world than any other web based site I have come across so far in my net travels. Thats an awesome thing, some thing for all to be proud of.

Now, Mr King. AKA one of the 'watchers' (because its already proven there is more than one). Presents me with a perfect storm. Here is man who asks us to believe the incredible (and believe me, its nothing compared to what some here have shared with me) and that is not where my problem with it all lays.

The incredible is easy to believe, in fact, regarding military abductions and aliens I actually think there is some truth to the matter of Mr Kings testimony. However, when I read through the tangled web Mr King has written, it soon became very apparent that all was not well in his story.

It started OK - I am very familiar with deniable operations AKA black bag work, I am very familiar with a budget that buys $500 hammers and spends $400 of that on ammunition that arrive in hammer boxes. With me so far?

I believe multiple witnesses that their are underground bases cut with huge tunnelling machines - some people I have spoken to have seen such places with their own eyes. Reliable, military, trained professional witnesses.

What it comes down to is the evasivness of the witness. Thats where Mr King has turned me from a possible allie to a person filled with disgust. Mr King starts as a security guard, then a military member, then a psyops operative.

Had his amazing testimony stayed as truthful as it possibly could of been, I actually would believe Mr King has seen this incredible place, albeit not where he thinks it is - and even seen the things he says he has seen.

BUT

Here is a UFO researcher who spends years as a government psyops agent coming into Avalon spilling the most amazing testimony to you all, as he has done for 14 or more years. Question is, why would they do that?

The only conclusion I can gather is that some where, some one is terrified that when the real witnesses wake up and start talking, there will be no precedent and they will be believed.

Now, with Mr King firmly entrenched in the world wide web, the witnesses in the Uk to real events and real craft will be measured against Mr Kings yard stick.

Mr King is a self confessed psyops agent, working for the government of the Uk. I cannot forgive that, as had he stated from the beggining that he was a psyops operative, do you think people would of been so free in their belief in Mr King? do you think that real abductees would of approached Mr King so readily for help?

No, I don't think they would of either. Thats why i intend to start with this massive tangle of truths/half truths and what I believe to be lies, and slowly slowy catchee monkey as my Grandma used to say - and believe me, I am the most patient and relentless hunter of information you could ever come across.

I will get the answers I require.

[blastawaycas]

nice one Egg ...............i can't wait this is only going to get better
Whooooohooooo !!!!

i'm not being flippant by the by because as Egg says we are all looking for the TRUTH if somebody is shown to be telling stories then that needs pointing out...............personally i would like to thank Egg for putting the good people of this forum before his own needs

i don't think ego has anything to do with it

how can it be Egg is just a series of posts don't know nowt about him/her where Egg lives
weather he dunks his biscuits
if he/she watches top gear............he could be the stig !!

don't think ego enters into the fray
but in my humble opinion blunt no bulls*it honesty does

kindest regards dave caster

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Egg

Of course Humble - I appreciated your honesty in our last conversation and you get the respect due to you as you show others.


So let me explain what I am going to do and more importantly, why.

Avalon is at the cutting edge of the cusp of awakening - more people here are in tune with world than any other web based site I have come across so far in my net travels. Thats an awesome thing, some thing for all to be proud of.

Now, Mr King. AKA one of the 'watchers' (because its already proven there is more than one). Presents me with a perfect storm. Here is man who asks us to believe the incredible (and believe me, its nothing compared to what some here have shared with me) and that is not where my problem with it all lays.

The incredible is easy to believe, in fact, regarding military abductions and aliens I actually think there is some truth to the matter of Mr Kings testimony. However, when I read through the tangled web Mr King has written, it soon became very apparent that all was not well in his story.

It started OK - I am very familiar with deniable operations AKA black bag work, I am very familiar with a budget that buys $500 hammers and spends $400 of that on ammunition that arrive in hammer boxes. With me so far?

I believe multiple witnesses that their are underground bases cut with huge tunnelling machines - some people I have spoken to have seen such places with their own eyes. Reliable, military, trained professional witnesses.

What it comes down to is the evasivness of the witness. Thats where Mr King has turned me from a possible allie to a person filled with disgust. Mr King starts as a security guard, then a military member, then a psyops operative.

Had his amazing testimony stayed as truthful as it possibly could of been, I actually would believe Mr King has seen this incredible place, albeit not where he thinks it is - and even seen the things he says he has seen.

BUT

Here is a UFO researcher who spends years as a government psyops agent coming into Avalon spilling the most amazing testimony to you all, as he has done for 14 or more years. Question is, why would they do that?

The only conclusion I can gather is that some where, some one is terrified that when the real witnesses wake up and start talking, there will be no precedent and they will be believed.

Now, with Mr King firmly entrenched in the world wide web, the witnesses in the Uk to real events and real craft will be measured against Mr Kings yard stick.

Mr King is a self confessed psyops agent, working for the government of the Uk. I cannot forgive that, as had he stated from the beggining that he was a psyops operative, do you think people would of been so free in their belief in Mr King? do you think that real abductees would of approached Mr King so readily for help?

No, I don't think they would of either. Thats why i intend to start with this massive tangle of truths/half truths and what I believe to be lies, and slowly slowy catchee monkey as my Grandma used to say - and believe me, I am the most patient and relentless hunter of information you could ever come across.

I will get the answers I require.

Intereseting Egg.
So what did destroying this thread do to aid the development of the people on this forum that you 'care' so much about.

I have my own theory why you care so much about this thread - and it is quite apparent to those with their eyes open.

However, congradulations - you managed what several others didnt a few months ago.

All thats left of your mission will be now to dig the threads grave and concrete over.

You dont need eyes to watch


Peace out
Iain

[Egg]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Intereseting Egg.
So what did destroying this thread do to aid the development of the people on this forum that you 'care' so much about.

If I untangle the mess Mr King et al have thrown across the web, prove my suspicions, then I can bring out real people, with real identities, with real experiences who are able to verify that their employment within the Armed Forces and other services is genuine and not a fabrication - then, and only then can people trust the information and verify for themselves if people are genuine or not.

All thats left of your mission will be now to dig the threads grave and concrete over.

Oh I haven't stopped yet, far, far from it and I have some very amusing findings already

[Kari Lynn]

Egg's goal was obviously to stop and prevent a whistle blower from presenting information that could still be considered confidential, to some opposing agencies.
Two of which he has named here, CIA and NSA.
This is what they do. Discredit, and disinform and destroy. Mission accomplished Egg.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Kari Lynn

Egg's goal was obviously to stop and prevent a whistle blower from presenting information that could still be considered confidential, to some opposing agencies.
Two of which he has named here, CIA and NSA.
This is what they do. Discredit, and disinform and destroy. Mission accomplished Egg.

A whistle blower. A whistle blower who couldn't decide wether he was uber secret security, military or a PSYOPS AGENT.

MR KING admitted in his own confession he was a PSYOPS agent. Admitted it himself in his own words. I am just beavering away ripping the rest of mr Kings story to shreds.

However thats not hard judging by the poor memory he has and the number of slips he has made in his own material.

I will post it all in my own time, but just on his own words alone, Mr King shows that he has zero credibility what so ever. It took how long for him to admit that this was the writings of a PSYOPS AGENT?

[Orion11]

lol @ egg.

ya poor, daft sod.

everyone knows you're not going to bring anything of any substance to the table. You have nothing... but ego.... sad, little, ego filled egg.

quite amusing, really.

please, carry on with your inflation of ego and absolute nothingness.

you should look for a life while your looking for info on everyone elses.

poor little egg.

[Orion11]

I am just beavering away ripping the rest of mr Kings story to shreds.

lmaooo....

the saddest thing is.. you prolly really believe that!!!!!!!

hahahahaha, wow man, fkn weak!!!!

[blastawaycas]

Orion11 why ? what was the point in that ?
don't understand why you would be immature ?

poor little eggy weggy....... thats just so not funny

Don't personally know Egg
he/she is just a series of posts
but Egg's a fellow brother/sister

you know if you were to meet up one nite

HE'D KICK YOUR ASS
dizzy bollox

with all due respect

Orion why don't you give us your take on Mr King
and why you think what you do please

kindest regards Dave Caster

[Egg]

Careful egg, this pdf was created and disseminated by another member from another forum, careful

BTW, is that you in the piccie Eggy? And your tiresome remarks as if you were the specially chosen egg to come forth and bring truths out of the murky darkness. ROFL. You need get out of your eggbox more.

[THEWATCHER]

As I feel Egg has done his job, intended job, his personal crusading agenda, to wreck this thread. I have no intention of restarting any kind of disclosure here since Egg took it upon himself to career blindly along with the sole intention of posting his goals and swaying others to his warped and fanatic muck raking. You sail very close to the wind with your posts egg and come very close to pushing decency levels out of the window. I have requested Kerry to kindly lock this thread to stop your incessant rants bordering on obsession. I wish not to be made to stick around and moderate your garbage Egg. I'd prefer this locked or even deleted if necessary. To stop your little game. I cannot delete my own membership and even requested this of Kerry. Simply had enough of the perverse pleasure some idiot has here in taking over this thread with his EGO. I await a response from Kerry re this issue. Whilst I wait I will delete your posts Egg just to peeve you off as you do me, as most of the time you are doing nothing but coming here and posting after your wee little travels around the web.

THE WATCHER

Thread locked [at THEWATCHERS request] for 24 hours.

[THEWATCHER]

Announcement from The Watchers to follow shortly, please read carefully

[THEWATCHER]

Part one of three.........
Embedded rules of disclosure for The Watcher.

The Watcher is empowered to disclose without restraint.
The Watcher is empowered to disclose what, where, when, how and why
IF The Watcher so chooses.
The Watcher has the right to deny any disclosure topic/subject if
it encompasses areas deemed premature for disclosure at this time.
The Watcher has the right to deny on a need to know basis if it is
deemed non safe, or too restrictive in nature for release, on personal
safety and the safety of others, or if it is deemed to be not of a
beneficial nature to disclose.

A timeline has been set and this will be adhered to, with flexibility
as per the discretion of The Watcher.

These are the set disclosure protocols, Project Camelot and Project
Avalon can choose to accept or deny these. You have full free choice.

[Myplanet2]

The watcher has the exclusive right to stand on the dock yelling "Da plane boss, da Plane..."

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

The watcher has the exclusive right to stand on the dock yelling "Da plane boss, da Plane..."

Perhaps I do not need a boss, can yell for myself, but being English my wording would be different

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Disclosure comes in different shades, as does truths, these being white, grey and black. We wish to prove nothing here, merely to educate, point the way and steer you in the right direction. It will be upon your own discretion as to where the data presented to you resides, in the white, in the grey or in the black. By our definition black will obviously mean residing in deep hidden by mankind black. Free thinking individuals not blinkered by preconceptions are welcome here.

[Kari Lynn]

Do your comms mean that disclosure with Mr. King will continue?

If so, I have some questions. Promise not to bite too hard. lol

[THEWATCHER]

Part two of three........

AVALON and CAMELOT

Information yet to be disclosed here will require what many claim to
have, a fully open and enquiring mind and a willingness to accept
that there are other intelligences.The vanity of much of mankind has
denied them access to these other intelligences by way of disbelief.
This vanity has excluded from their minds the validity of other beings
wishing to interact with mankind in a friendly benign way.
A term used here will suffice for these other intelligences.....OPI.

These OPI have been assisting mankind for a very long time. They
have tried to gain acceptance from the varying governments of many
countries. Many are reluctant to admit the existance of such beings
and the resulting covering up of friendly contact has left mankind
doubting that such OPI could exist and be interacting with him and
this planet.

You here at Avalon and Camelot will need a leap of faith in order to
accept what will be disclosed to you by numerous individuals, not
just The Watcher. Many are showing you information. Universal free
laws of thinking allow mankind to accept or deny what will be shown.

Mankind has shown that any being outwardly appearing out of the norm
is rejected and is perceived as a threat to him.To alleviate the fears
inborn within mankind OPI have utilised advanced genetic research to
lessen the shock factor when interacting with mankind on various levels.

Think along the terms of not simply terrestrial, but perhaps terrestrial
plus, working on the terrestrial plane but also above it at same time.

We look forwards to continuing the set timeline via The Watcher here
with you, and hope that sufficient open enquiring minds allow The Watcher
to feel calm enough to relate the true nature of The Watcher and those
like him, origins, purposes and above all, to see the integrity we hope
you will plainly see.

[Kari Lynn]

I take that as a yes?

These Elders:
Much of what I am learning of them, seems to fit in with other childhood teachings I've had. From my grandmother mostly. Is it posible that they are spoken of in some (probably only one) church history book? (I'm not speaking of the bible as everyone knows of it here.)
As for their physical attibutes. Is it possible for them to walk among us and not be detected? Except for maybe their height?
I had seen a couple of men that stood at almost 7 foot tall. But they had dark hair. I've also seen a man who stood about 7 foot tall with incredibly white/blond hair. attributes would probably be described as being albino. I tried not to stare, as that would be rude, lol. But is hard not to take a second or third glance! lol. I just smiled and waved as we passed each other on the street. I was a young kid at the time, of probably 12 or 14 years old. I don't remember what color his eyes were. They're were not overly large though. Fairly normal human looking eyes.

[Orion11]

sweet, well said whoever wrote post #1188
lol

[Tarliam]

Its hard for me to keep up with what the topic is with all the extra comments and its a shame, some of the information coming from the watcher is intriguing, so as to not add to it here is my question to the watcher or any who wish to comment. as we know beings have been contacting people telepathically for sometime with messages of love and unity, do you think it is possible that there is a hidden less noble agenda at work, if they are so advanced and thousands and thousands of years more evolved then us would not it be easy to deceive us, in the old days missionaries where sent in advance of settlers to pacify the savages from there warlike lives so they could be more easily subjugated is this possible?? in your opinion sorry about being so negative but these thoughts have been on my mind a lot lately

[THEWATCHER]

Part Three, abridged from original decision.

There may be other individuals within Avalon and Camelot that have
knowledge of facilities within the UK whose remit includes some form
of mindcontrolling technologies utilising unwitting human guinea pigs.
Genetic experimentation and combined Military backed abductions.
The Watcher has gone on record since the early 1990's of his involvement
with one particular facility located in Berkshire.
We can offer the following locations for similar facilities whose remit
duplicates and exceeds that of Peasemore.

Government/Military/Intelligence/R&D facilities located
Wiltshire
Hampshire
Berkshire
North Yorkshire
Devon
Oxfordshire

For obvious reasons more precise locations will not be stated herein just
yet. As stated we do not expect individuals here to simply accept this
data, a little amount of research can secure this.

NOTE*
The Watcher aligned himself with the Disclosure Project run by Dr Steven
M Greer during 2000. Between that date and 2006 Dr Greer stated publicly in interviews that he and his team had under their wings 2 individuals from the UK whom worked within facilities dealing with specific R&D. The Watcher was one of these 2 individuals. The second individual is of a totally unknown quantity but may have approached another disclosure organisation before disappearing totally. Dr Greer has stated that due to the near impossible verification of such black budget programs and the claimants these 2 individuals were put on hold pending such verification in the future. This second individual was reported to have worked at a facility similar to Peasemore but located in Kent.

OPI working with specialised teams have for several decades steered the general public towards accepting other intelligences, using several methodologies including mass media manipulation. Working with individuals within Government, Scientific, Military and Intel circles, plus seeded individuals within the research communities enabled a constant flow of data direction. Within this area psychological procedures were employed to obtain the desired results, the acclimatisation of the human race to OPI.
The psychological operations used are of by neccessity located within what is termed deep black programs. Heavily compartmentalised with strict need to know. Resulting in reasonable deniability within departments whose remit may on occasion interact with the psychological operations.
Careful placement requires little or no paper trail for investigators to pursue.
(On that topic it has been stated to disclosure sources that The Watcher was placed with a front security company to create a plausible paper trail and to satisfy documentation. In this instance the security company involved was Guarda Security).

[THEWATCHER]

Unscheduled Part Four to follow in due course.......