Questions for THEWATCHER

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

Not wanting to join in the affray as I've been asked not to prod the sleeping lion, but, you just answered why there is aparently justifiable questioning by somebody who is obviously interested in the materia for a little evidence of what you claim.

We must all understand that when you arrived here you yourself informed the public that you WERE a security guard at a secret underground base at a place called Peasemore. You worked there for two short stints but you were privvy to witness the creation of Greys.

Then you went on to involve information that many on the internet have already published about the NSA and what is supposed to be happening over in the US.

Now you are a psyop professional.

These are the basic facts. I'm not trying to put any slant on this post.

This has spanned out almost as long as the forum has been in existence.

So here goes. It could very well be that Egg wants the proof to verify your claims because it could be that he has important information that he can only share with someone 'in the know'. He could want to share information, even confirm information without him giving away too much to the layman,or place himselfin any compromising position.

I really do thnk that you could send this info in private, if you choose, to first of all get an ally in what is often considered a polemical subject and discover if there is any sensative information out there that can't be given to anybody, not even Bill nor Kerry.

Just a thought. If nobody finds the idea interesting, just ignore the post. No need to reply justifying why you think the idea not very good.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Glory hallelujah, someone with some sense and whom has read the posts!! But i'm afraid eggyweggy wants his own personal proof as he has set himself up as that leader of demand proof seekers. People seem to forget I came in here as Barry King whistleblowing on a particular facility and its remit.

THE WATCHER

[blastawaycas]

STEVE A THAT BRILL THOSE LAST 2 PARAGRAPHS THATS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IN ME "FOG INDUCED BELLANDONIC MORPHINE AND TRAMADOL PAINKILLING ECSTACY", DID'NT IT COME OUT LIKE THAT !!!!
WELL DONE STEVE WELL SAID SIR AND TO YOU EGG FOR YOUR UNSTINTING RELENTLESS DIGGING AND KINALLY TO MR KING FOR HANGING IN THERE !!

GONNA HAVE A FEW MORE PILLS !!!

DAVE CASTER KINDEST REGARDS

[777 The Great Work]

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Proof and facts are not truth.

[777 The Great Work]

Man is awakening his forgotten power of discernment and intuition. This means that facts and proof are based on the ego perception. We are learning to feel whats of the higher vibration ,and becomming one with that which is unseen without proof or facts. We must develop a knowing and feel with our hearts.

Bow to truth regardless of the bearer. We serve light, instead of wrangling over the one who brings it. In this way we prove that we are seeking to know better the will and the dictates of that which is unnameable.

Facts could be that there is a monkey calling himself barry King with his own PC. If i feel truth from the monkey ,what does it matter. The facts are that i have the deed to my house.The truth, is i can't take it with me.


Through the shadow shines ever the Perfect Light.

Proof and facts are not truth. Egg, you had a visitation with Jesus,so proove it.

[Tarliam]

i have to agree with Kerri , knowing what these groups can do to people who inform people of the truth there are times when there is no proof left people in fact have been completely mind wiped given a different history then what actually happened and left somewhere to try to figure it out. they are the lucky ones alot of awful things have been done by the PTB, imagine waking up somewhere and you are no longer you, and having no way to prove your not the persona you have been given. how this ties into people asking for evedence is it is one of the things that can happen and its why many choose to be silent or at most covert in what they say.

[Kari Lynn]

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[Kari Lynn]

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[Carol]

Awhile back, when another member was personally threatened where someone showed up at his home pounding on his front door at 6 am in the morning, shortly following an altercation with Barry on the forum, I was asked to check out Barry by several others, including the member who felt threatened enough to change his physical location within the week of this particular incident. The member also reported that two of his friends had mysteriously died after receiving the "warning" and that he was taking this incident seriously. I asked Henry Deacon about Barry. Henry Decon reported that although some of the information Barry provided could be substantiated (meaning it can be found on the Internet) that in his opinion Barry is a fake.

[Tarliam]

Originally Posted by Carol

Awhile back, when another member was personally threatened where someone showed up at his home pounding on his front door at 6 am in the morning, shortly following an altercation with Barry on the forum, I was asked to check out Barry by several others, including the member who felt threatened enough to change his physical location within the week of this particular incident. The member also reported that two of his friends had mysteriously died after receiving the "warning" and that he was taking this incident seriously. I asked Henry Deacon about Barry. Henry Decon reported that although some of the information Barry provided could be substantiated (meaning it can be found on the Internet) that in his opinion Barry is a fake.

first I am not for or against Mr.King and being new to forums id like to pose a question wouldn't the fact that someone threatened a member of this forum after talking to Mr. king lend some weight that he has some ability to contact O.G.A to get that done if in fact it wasn't just happen stance again for the record i am not pro- or con Mr.king just am trying to dig through the coal to find the diamond in all this information

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Tarliam

first I am not for or against Mr.King and being new to forums id like to pose a question wouldn't the fact that someone threatened a member of this forum after talking to Mr. king lend some weight that he has some ability to contact O.G.A to get that done if in fact it wasn't just happen stance again for the record i am not pro- or con Mr.king just am trying to dig through the coal to find the diamond in all this information

HOLD ON THERE!! see that proves my point in my last post, see, now we have others conveniently thinking along the lines that our good ol mod posted!! I do not believe it. Its as bad as someone going to another source and asking their opinion of a certain person. Whom set themselves up as the God with all knowledge of others? This is becoming a farce. I declare Henry Deacon a fake, and one or two others to boot LOL LOL LOL

THE WATCHER

[Tarliam]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

HOLD ON THERE!! see that proves my point in my last post, see, now we have others conveniently thinking along the lines that our good ol mod posted!! I do not believe it. Its as bad as someone going to another source and asking their opinion of a certain person. Whom set themselves up as the God with all knowledge of others? This is becoming a farce. I declare Henry Deacon a fake, and one or two others to boot LOL LOL LOL

THE WATCHER

Mr. king and forum: what i don't know = are the facts being presented entirely fact or what is given to be truth in a compartmentalized arena. i also don't know if you are indeed BMK or and agent of the same honestly i don't care from what Ive read throughout this thread is you have attempted to follow a prescribed setting of information release, consistent with a know agenda.

What i know= that there are good guys and bad guys: this i know more then most, and i have not yet decided which side you fall on and the same for others. i do know any group intrested in holding back the truth would have people all over sites like this, call me paranoid call me delusional its fine with me i've seen the results of what these groups do. Tag

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Tarliam

Mr. king and forum: what i don't know = are the facts being presented entirely fact or what is given to be truth in a compartmentalized arena. i also don't know if you are indeed BMK or and agent of the same honestly i don't care from what Ive read throughout this thread is you have attempted to follow a prescribed setting of information release, consistent with a know agenda.

What i know= that there are good guys and bad guys: this i know more then most, and i have not yet decided which side you fall on and the same for others. i do know any group intrested in holding back the truth would have people all over sites like this, call me paranoid call me delusional its fine with me i've seen the results of what these groups do. Tag

Take it from me, there is no one here at these forums important enough to take out, too many paranoid, delusional and fantasy prone individuals. They stick out like sore thumbs. NO ONE is holding such delicate and damned important info that any agency would waste a second on watching, let alone removing.

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

LOL I'm almost wetting myself with laughter here, Mod Carol goes running to Henry Deacon......."Henry sir, could you please spare a few moments and with your worldly wisdom as you sit on the throne of all worldly knowledge, the supreme knowledge, check out this upstart Barry King..." LOL LOL LOL OMG what next?

[THEWATCHER]

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[Tarliam]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Oh, and FOR THE RECORD.........I have security cameras front and rear, the phone automatically records all calls and logs them..... a practise put in place since 1994.............

THE WATCHER

im somwhat confused what your last post had to do with the subject at hand.
sorry perhaps i missed somthing

[Tarliam]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Take it from me, there is no one here at these forums important enough to take out, too many paranoid, delusional and fantasy prone individuals. They stick out like sore thumbs. NO ONE is holding such delicate and damned important info that any agency would waste a second on watching, let alone removing.

THE WATCHER

I kinda disagree if one percent of people hear know somthing O.G.A. would be here watching maybe even watching the watcher

[THEWATCHER]

Thankyou Dave but you unfortunately have not been on the receiving end of muck flinging and demands bordering on fanaticism. Doubt what you like, too much is on offer but I cannot be bothered, keep your ego nonsense to yourself as well. Only one ego tripper here, thats egg. What in hell is Egg supposed to know? Whats his disclosure all about? Have you any idea or just simply following him?. There MIGHT be experiencers here with some valuable data but they are pushed out of the way by egocentric nutbars wishing to get their posts seen. I have been very civil, very courteous and friendly in my association here but have received of late nothing but annoyance, disrespect, discourtesey, civility has been lacking too. Been accused of having something to do with the ramblings of nutbars yelling and screaming someone was out to get them. Been called a fake by someone I'm afraid holds way too high opinion of himself, and he too could just as easily be a fake, a phony. Obviously disclosure of a higher level is not for you here at Avalon just yet. To all the genuine friends I've made since I arrived here, keep well, keep pursuing your truths, to all the nutbars and troublemakers, ****stirrers and followers I can say get a life and go to hell. Something must have worked right for almost 50,000 hits!! Some of you deserve ignorance as you are ignorant. Even though when I leave I will not be able to respond to anyones posts, and there is bound to be many petty little guttersnipe posting after this. BUT I will still see, watch, what goes on here. If not me personally then LOL another watcher. Goodnight and goodbye.

THE WATCHER

[Kerry Cassidy]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Thankyou Dave but you unfortunately have not been on the receiving end of muck flinging and demands bordering on fanaticism. Doubt what you like, too much is on offer but I cannot be bothered, keep your ego nonsense to yourself as well. Only one ego tripper here, thats egg. What in hell is Egg supposed to know? Whats his disclosure all about? Have you any idea or just simply following him?. There MIGHT be experiencers here with some valuable data but they are pushed out of the way by egocentric nutbars wishing to get their posts seen. I have been very civil, very courteous and friendly in my association here but have received of late nothing but annoyance, disrespect, discourtesey, civility has been lacking too. Been accused of having something to do with the ramblings of nutbars yelling and screaming someone was out to get them. Been called a fake by someone I'm afraid holds way too high opinion of himself, and he too could just as easily be a fake, a phony. Obviously disclosure of a higher level is not for you here at Avalon just yet. To all the genuine friends I've made since I arrived here, keep well, keep pursuing your truths, to all the nutbars and troublemakers, ****stirrers and followers I can say get a life and go to hell. Something must have worked right for almost 50,000 hits!! Some of you deserve ignorance as you are ignorant. Even though when I leave I will not be able to respond to anyones posts, and there is bound to be many petty little guttersnipe posting after this. BUT I will still see, watch, what goes on here. If not me personally then LOL another watcher. Goodnight and goodbye.

THE WATCHER

POSTING TO THE MODS FYI...

Hi again,

Hi all,

I posted to Watcher's thread today in answer to some of the questions being
made regarding proof. There is no way to substantiate or prove anything
that Barry has to say (or anyone else posting for him or using his ID).
This is also true of Henry Deacon by the way.

He or whoever is using his ID is posting interesting info and should be
allowed to continue to do so.

If he is unhappy with the skeptics I suggest we move him to his own area
where he or one mod he can agree to work with, can delete any postings they
don't like.

Other than that and short of asking him or others to leave I see no
recourse. And I would prefer to continue to let him reveal what he has to
reveal. This does not mean I agree with him but simply that his material is
interesting and well worth reading.

Best wishes,

Kerry

[blastawaycas]

well Barry if your still reading this good

its still your thread your shout.

i have no idea what or who egg is but i get the feeling that he has had his fingernails chipped a few times ........... and as for following him ....honestly
yeah kinda ........because i like what he has to say ........he bollocked me upside down for a post i put about a local beat bobby .......... he was right and i was wrong had no right saying what i did ......i respected that but he did not have to and i could have got into some bother over it (was'nt malicious just a petty remark i made could have been construed as a threat)

write back Barry i don't want my post the last post !!!

why not PM Egg work it thru i am sure you gentlemen can do that
I can't stop a nuke or a Foriegn soldier putting a round thru me alien abduction or takeover A copper putting a baton over me bonce i have no resistance to EMP or CME asteroids and meteors will not bounce off me and i melt and drown like everybody else.

But forewarned by whistleblowers adding 2 and 2 connecting the spots listening to what this forum brings ...... will allow me to get my family to safety.....i'm knackered but at least i can give them a head start, Egg put me right once he also showed me a fantastic bit of kit (surviival aid a water filtration purifier) ............ that good i bought one bugger the gas bill this month ........ thats solved the water problem, i am stocking food been doing it for a month now as we head towards August September time, hope i don't need to

this forum brings change and with this change brings wisdom, dare i say it (coz i am a typical northern bloke) love and harmony. this forum brings together like minded people but we all bring different experiences to the table and we are all different in our approach but we are all kicking at the same goalmouth............its just that a few hit the posts a few wide and some into the street behind the stands!!!! thats life.

god me eyes are streaming with these lower case!!!

anyhow i need a couple a painkillers me backs killing me

don't let me down i wanna get my family away from ground zero if i can even if it is breathing for another 24 hours. information is not the same as disinformation and disinformation is sometimes better than noinformation

come on people kick yer footballs not each others !!!!!!!!!!!!

love and respect dave

[Lorien]

Like Kerry said, unfortunately there is never any true "proof" that someone is who they say they are, or that they worked where they say they worked, etc. As with the majority of information we receive in this type of situation and in regard to these types of areas of information, we have to take it all with a grain of salt.

Any "proof" that is given whether it be a copy of a paystub, or even something more concrete like them standing next to a top secret craft can easily be forged with a little time and effort in photoshop. So just because they have said "proof" does not in fact prove anything.

I for one would also like to continue to have this information available and ask the Watcher to please stay and continue your work here.

Thank you.

[Egg]

If you say you have been in the military, and cannot provide any proof, then you have never been in the military - its as simple as that.

You never forget your military ID no. be it a Navy / RM or Army or what ever service. It can be erased but if they erase it a funny thing happens at military records - there is a gap because they cannot create another in its place. Its an anchorism of the system. Instead they'll delete your file and say some thing like 'Failed to complete basic training'.

Dave, you got given prompt legal advice to stop a Policeman from being able to come round to your home and arrest you.


Mr King - I haven't stopped digging, nor will I. As for your story? well each to his own to believe it or not, but I for one believe you are full of ****. Cannot prove it (yet), but believe me, I am working on it.

[Humble Janitor]

I fail to see what your little mission will accomplish, except to feed your ego, Egg.

I have dealt with the negative side of you on here and I just want to point out that we need to keep an open mind and also scrutinize what we read. Wouldn't it make more sense for you to discuss your issues with Barry in a private message, rather than wrecking his thread every chance you get?

What are you striving for? To be right? What is that going to prove? Are you trying to please a master or something?

I ask that you hold your venom if you choose to respond.

[Egg]

Of course Humble - I appreciated your honesty in our last conversation and you get the respect due to you as you show others.


So let me explain what I am going to do and more importantly, why.

Avalon is at the cutting edge of the cusp of awakening - more people here are in tune with world than any other web based site I have come across so far in my net travels. Thats an awesome thing, some thing for all to be proud of.

Now, Mr King. AKA one of the 'watchers' (because its already proven there is more than one). Presents me with a perfect storm. Here is man who asks us to believe the incredible (and believe me, its nothing compared to what some here have shared with me) and that is not where my problem with it all lays.

The incredible is easy to believe, in fact, regarding military abductions and aliens I actually think there is some truth to the matter of Mr Kings testimony. However, when I read through the tangled web Mr King has written, it soon became very apparent that all was not well in his story.

It started OK - I am very familiar with deniable operations AKA black bag work, I am very familiar with a budget that buys $500 hammers and spends $400 of that on ammunition that arrive in hammer boxes. With me so far?

I believe multiple witnesses that their are underground bases cut with huge tunnelling machines - some people I have spoken to have seen such places with their own eyes. Reliable, military, trained professional witnesses.

What it comes down to is the evasivness of the witness. Thats where Mr King has turned me from a possible allie to a person filled with disgust. Mr King starts as a security guard, then a military member, then a psyops operative.

Had his amazing testimony stayed as truthful as it possibly could of been, I actually would believe Mr King has seen this incredible place, albeit not where he thinks it is - and even seen the things he says he has seen.

BUT

Here is a UFO researcher who spends years as a government psyops agent coming into Avalon spilling the most amazing testimony to you all, as he has done for 14 or more years. Question is, why would they do that?

The only conclusion I can gather is that some where, some one is terrified that when the real witnesses wake up and start talking, there will be no precedent and they will be believed.

Now, with Mr King firmly entrenched in the world wide web, the witnesses in the Uk to real events and real craft will be measured against Mr Kings yard stick.

Mr King is a self confessed psyops agent, working for the government of the Uk. I cannot forgive that, as had he stated from the beggining that he was a psyops operative, do you think people would of been so free in their belief in Mr King? do you think that real abductees would of approached Mr King so readily for help?

No, I don't think they would of either. Thats why i intend to start with this massive tangle of truths/half truths and what I believe to be lies, and slowly slowy catchee monkey as my Grandma used to say - and believe me, I am the most patient and relentless hunter of information you could ever come across.

I will get the answers I require.

[blastawaycas]

nice one Egg ...............i can't wait this is only going to get better
Whooooohooooo !!!!

i'm not being flippant by the by because as Egg says we are all looking for the TRUTH if somebody is shown to be telling stories then that needs pointing out...............personally i would like to thank Egg for putting the good people of this forum before his own needs

i don't think ego has anything to do with it

how can it be Egg is just a series of posts don't know nowt about him/her where Egg lives
weather he dunks his biscuits
if he/she watches top gear............he could be the stig !!

don't think ego enters into the fray
but in my humble opinion blunt no bulls*it honesty does

kindest regards dave caster

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Egg

Of course Humble - I appreciated your honesty in our last conversation and you get the respect due to you as you show others.


So let me explain what I am going to do and more importantly, why.

Avalon is at the cutting edge of the cusp of awakening - more people here are in tune with world than any other web based site I have come across so far in my net travels. Thats an awesome thing, some thing for all to be proud of.

Now, Mr King. AKA one of the 'watchers' (because its already proven there is more than one). Presents me with a perfect storm. Here is man who asks us to believe the incredible (and believe me, its nothing compared to what some here have shared with me) and that is not where my problem with it all lays.

The incredible is easy to believe, in fact, regarding military abductions and aliens I actually think there is some truth to the matter of Mr Kings testimony. However, when I read through the tangled web Mr King has written, it soon became very apparent that all was not well in his story.

It started OK - I am very familiar with deniable operations AKA black bag work, I am very familiar with a budget that buys $500 hammers and spends $400 of that on ammunition that arrive in hammer boxes. With me so far?

I believe multiple witnesses that their are underground bases cut with huge tunnelling machines - some people I have spoken to have seen such places with their own eyes. Reliable, military, trained professional witnesses.

What it comes down to is the evasivness of the witness. Thats where Mr King has turned me from a possible allie to a person filled with disgust. Mr King starts as a security guard, then a military member, then a psyops operative.

Had his amazing testimony stayed as truthful as it possibly could of been, I actually would believe Mr King has seen this incredible place, albeit not where he thinks it is - and even seen the things he says he has seen.

BUT

Here is a UFO researcher who spends years as a government psyops agent coming into Avalon spilling the most amazing testimony to you all, as he has done for 14 or more years. Question is, why would they do that?

The only conclusion I can gather is that some where, some one is terrified that when the real witnesses wake up and start talking, there will be no precedent and they will be believed.

Now, with Mr King firmly entrenched in the world wide web, the witnesses in the Uk to real events and real craft will be measured against Mr Kings yard stick.

Mr King is a self confessed psyops agent, working for the government of the Uk. I cannot forgive that, as had he stated from the beggining that he was a psyops operative, do you think people would of been so free in their belief in Mr King? do you think that real abductees would of approached Mr King so readily for help?

No, I don't think they would of either. Thats why i intend to start with this massive tangle of truths/half truths and what I believe to be lies, and slowly slowy catchee monkey as my Grandma used to say - and believe me, I am the most patient and relentless hunter of information you could ever come across.

I will get the answers I require.

Intereseting Egg.
So what did destroying this thread do to aid the development of the people on this forum that you 'care' so much about.

I have my own theory why you care so much about this thread - and it is quite apparent to those with their eyes open.

However, congradulations - you managed what several others didnt a few months ago.

All thats left of your mission will be now to dig the threads grave and concrete over.

You dont need eyes to watch


Peace out
Iain