Questions for THEWATCHER

[Kari Lynn]

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[Egg]

Originally Posted by Kari Lynn

Wow, now who's the one that's really gathering information about people here Egg? What are you doing with all that information?
Why do you feel you need to be privy to a person's private information, photo's and documents?

Comprehension skills - I learnt them when I was in Kindergarten - I suggest you try learning a set for yourself.

I want the watcher to front up to the Moderators that he has been in gainful HM Forces employment. Then I will say 'fair play' and leave it at that - he provides the proof, I'll provide the apology.

It shouldn't be too hard for him - I'll even get him the address for a re-print if he has 'lost' his first one.

he is making big claims, so he has to front up big proof.

[Egg]

Just to make it absolutely clear, I am here for the long haul, and I will be here asking each and every time he makes a remarkable claim. His claim is that he is psyops, so he has to front up proof.

I'll be like a ghost of military past / present and future in this thread.

[Kari Lynn]

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[THEWATCHER]

Then everybody is in for a long long wait, I'm not prepared to release specific data to just anybody, let alone complete strangers whom have a past themselves which perhaps they should detail in depth here for all to see. I need prove nothing to anyone here, you take or leave with I choose to disclose. You are very fixed in your sights Egg, very rigid and perhaps a tad tunnel visioned. Never heard of deep black ops? Whom said HM Gov to begin with?, in the rigid open to all world? Ever heard of deep black that goes way beyond restraints of UK or US Gov?, the open, accountable, paper trailing types. I owe you nothing by way of proof. I did not come in here shouting off hey guys I'm psy-ops, listen to me LOL LOL LOL. Someone brought that into the light, not me. Go and damn well ask, nay, demand, proof from others first, c'mon, lets see what others have to show publicly about them, C'mon Dan Burisch, c'mon all others, lets see your documentation!!. I will disclose what I choose to disclose, when I choose, without the discourtesey of being badgered by others. My reasonable mood has changed to one of being quite ****** off!!


THE WATCHER (like it or lump it)

[Egg]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Then everybody is in for a long long wait, I'm not prepared to release specific data to just anybody, let alone complete strangers whom have a past themselves which perhaps they should detail in depth here for all to see. I need prove nothing to anyone here, you take or leave with I choose to disclose.

Ill leave the psyops spin if thats all right with you.

You are very fixed in your sights Egg, very rigid and perhaps a tad tunnel visioned. Never heard of deep black ops? Whom said HM Gov to begin with?, in the rigid open to all world? Ever heard of deep black that goes way beyond restraints of UK or US Gov?, the open, accountable, paper trailing types.

Paper trail? try finding the paper trail for when the SAS trained the mujahadeen in the Hebrides. As for it not being any HM service, you mean the walter mitty school of 'psyops' locally known as the bullsheet artists? or is it even deeper than them? like so super secert even the elite in the SS don't know about it?

I owe you nothing by way of proof.

Thats why your so easy to write off. You won't produce anything - yet so many of the disclosure project people produced their military IDs and past histories but you? your so UBER secret you cannot produce anything? even Bob Lazar produced a payslip.

I did not come in here shouting off hey guys I'm psy-ops, listen to me LOL LOL LOL.

Had you said you were a psyops operative from the start people would of gone 'feck off tanker'.

Someone brought that into the light, not me.

Your own words, written by you said yourself you were psyops - don't blame any one else.

Go and damn well ask, nay, demand, proof from others first, c'mon, lets see what others have to show publicly about them, C'mon Dan Burisch, c'mon all others, lets see your documentation!!. I will disclose what I choose to disclose, when I choose, without the discourtesey of being badgered by others. My reasonable mood has changed to one of being quite ****** off!!

THE WATCHER (like it or lump it)

I do - often, and not here on Avalon. A guy said he worked for lockheed, so i went to a forum where I chat to people, and they vouched for the guy. That made me happy.

Oh and as for your change of mood? well, letting slip your psyops still tends to loosen ones train of thought I would suspect.

[Egg]

Lazar claims during the early days of his career he worked as a physicist on a highly classified government project, named Galileo. He also claimed to have received a 2 page briefing document in which it was claimed that Alien life forms indeed exist and been integrated within human evolution and that their spacecraft are being housed at S4, 15 miles away from Area 51, deep within Papoose Lake. Bob portrayed the complex as having being built into the bottom of the Papoose Range with nine aircraft style hangar doors angled at 60 degrees. ......

.....Bob Lazar evidence to support his employment and subsequent whistle blowing claims came by way of a payslip which contains the intriguing designation E-6722MAJ and an internal telephone listing of the Meson Laboratories 1982, which included Bob Lazars name. It was also identified that his taxation documents incorporated the contract number he was provided while working at Area 51. Certainly some convincing evidence to support his employment at the top secret base.

http://ukarea51.blogspot.com/2009/02...115-alien.html

He got payslips and Tax data to back up his claims. see where I am coming from? He worked at groom and has proof.

[Egg]

Payslip dude.

[BROOK]

Question for the watcher...
I have one question and one only...I'm not here to debate what you know or dont know...as a Whistleblower...when you signed on to this forum there is a Welcome to Avalon page..I started a thread about it recently. it states goals and Philosophy of Avalon...
Watcher..we have a right to Disclosure of all this knowledge you claim to possess...my question to you is what SOLUTION do you have for that? We as human beings on this planet have a right to know the TRUTH...what Solution do you have to present us with FULL DISCLOSURE?

[THEWATCHER]

Ignoring 'advice' from a certain quarter I will respond with this, this thread has been hijacked and there is no quick way of putting it back on track without a lot of heat being used. So, against that advice I will simply say this..............FTR, by supplying specific data as requested here to certain individuals only, this would in turn lead to other areas which although within the realms of disclosure, would not be disclosed at this time. A later date would be appropriate as the release now of that data would endanger. It would also require a very deep understanding of OPI, genetics, and a very open enquiring mind. Information would be of such a nature many here would not be able to grasp nor comprehand. It goes very deep, deeper than I or others are prepared to have released at this time. Again, against 'advice' from certain quarters I am going to enlighten Bill and Kerry as to the nature of these leads, a brief glimpse as to where they will go, and let them know why its impossible to continue here with the current state of play. If they wish to detail that to anyone I cannot stop them, but better it stayed with them for this timeframe. Its all one big shame but thats life. No winners, no losers, simply an empty field. Good day everyone.


THE WATCHER

[BROOK]

So what does that mean? I only asked what solution you have for FULL DISCLOSURE....are you saying we're not ready for it? That is not your right to say what we are ready for or not.

Again...What SOLUTION do you have for full disclosure?
MAybe I'm not understanding your last post but it sounds like you're telling us that we are not ready...and I'm here to tell you...you don't have the right to decide that.

[Jack]

One question for the watcher.


We live in a world full of liars and swindlers. If you respect your audience and care about this enough then if you felt that by just asking people to believe you when there is so much at stake then doesnt that mean that you have very little if no respect for all of these inteligent openminded people who are well within their rights to demand that you give yourself some credibility.

Remember the world is full of people that lie and cheat their way through life and their motives for doing so are as varied as grains of sand on a beach.


So by you not showing enough respect and courtesy for the people here by holding back on certain information you may as well kiss your audience goodbye. Because in this day and age it just would not be logical to just sit here and accept anything that is offered to us without first analysing it and making sure that we feel at ease with it in ourselves.

The truth can stand up on its own. Truth is not a possesion to be hoarded, and everyone is most certainly entitled to it. Otherwise, to us. Its just a lie.

[THEWATCHER]

CHRIST!!! None of you are getting it, I'm not saying I think you all are not ready for disclosure, simply THE ONE PARTICULAR AREA THAT IS IN QUESTION HERE. And what leads from that. NO, none are sufficiently ready to be informed of that one particular area. Stop making it look like I started being the shiite here, others started that. UNTIL you all are sufficiently open minded enough and have at least a certain amount of knowledge concerning the elements I stated, OPI, genetics, links with specialised teams, UNTIL then NO you cannot be given that area of data. ANYTHING else yes. I think I have bent over backwards to assist here so kindly have the courtesey to NOT make me out to be the bad guy. Please read carefully the posts I make, do not skip thru and get it all wrong.

THE WATCHER

[BROOK]

Sorry if you thought I was making you out to be a bad guy...that was not my intention...but full disclosure is what we all seek...and I believe we are all ready for whatever it is you think we might not be able to handle. That my friend is not for anyone to decide.

The fact is we are being kept in the dark, and that is wrong. especially if our tax dollars are paying for the services of the ones you speak of. It is our God given right to know the truth..for the truth will set you free
Again..sorry if you thought I was making you out to be the bad guy here...I have no reason to do so...I just thought as you are in the whistleblower thread, and giving certain information to us...that you would be the first to be on board for the full disclosure thing.

I have never posted until today in this thread...I've seen posts of the nature you speak of and I see you react as though you are up against the wall...but my friend you somewhat have put yourself there....again I don't mean to be disrespectful but it is my impression from what I've seen.
Respectfully
Brook

[blastawaycas]

BROOK I AM SURE YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEBODY TO STAND IN YOUR CORNER BUT I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SAID.

THEWATCHER SOMEBODY ON THIS THREAD WROTE I CALLED YOU A LIAR ......I DID NOT SIR I MERELY INTONED THAT TO BE A GOOD LIAR YOU NEED A GOOD MEMORY............SOLICITORS/LAWYERS ARE PAID LIARS ARE THEY NOT.........

WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT SIR I AM SITTING HERE AT 1.53 am GMT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY HOME TOWN WONDERING WHAT ON EARTH CAN YOU DISCLOSE THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO EITHER CATCH FIRE COMMIT SUICIDE OR STOP PAYING MY BILLS ................ YOU HAVE BEEN RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR A LITTLE CREDENCE........O.K MAYBE NOT IN THE MANNER YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TO ....................BUT EACH TO HIS OWN .........NOT EVERYBODY IS AS POLITE AS I AM ..................... GOODNESS WHAT A BORING WORLD THAT WOULD NO DOUBT BE SIR'

I ENJOY READING YOUR EXPLOITS............I FIND IT QUITE INTRIGUING....IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME IF YOU STOPPED CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FANTASTIC SITE......................BUT YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED BY EGG TO PROVIDE US WITH A LITTLE EVIDENCE..........EGG SOUNDS TO ME VERY VERY GENUINE AND VERY BUSINESS LIKE..............CONTACT HIM PM HIM I AM SAYING HIM IT COULD BE A HER....SORRY

I AM QUITE SURE AS SURE AS I AM DISABLED THAT THIS GENT / LADY (EGG) HAS SEEN IT DONE IT AND NOWT YOU SAY WILL SHOCK OR HORRIFY HIM / HER

IF YOU HAD FOLLOWED SOME OF EGGS POSTS YOU WILL SEE THAT SOME FANTASTIC INFO ADVICE HAS BEEN WRITTEN AND IS WRITTEN IN A NO BULL TYPE MANNER...............THEWATCHER (BARRY) WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT COULD YOU PM EGG WITH WHATEVER IT IS HE/SHE HAS ASKED FOR YOU SIR HAVE A GREAT MANY ADMIRERS AND FOLLOWERS ON THIS SITE......IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME TO (RESPECTFULLY) LOSE FACE

MY KINDEST REGARDS AND DEEPEST RESPECTS

DAVE CASTER

[blastawaycas]

AFTER A LITTLE THOUGHT I HOPE I AM NOT STEPPING ON ANYBODIES TOES BY SEEMINGLY ASKING ON EGGS BEHALF ................... I AM NOT AND MUST APPOLOGISE TO EGG IF IT SEEMS SO, IT WOULD BE NICE TO FINALISE THIS UNFORTUNATE DEBATE

ONCE AGAIN MY APPOLOGIES I WAS MEERLY ACTING OUT OF FRUSTRATION FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD.

I MENTIONED EGG SIMPLY BECAUSE HE/SHE PRIMARILY ASKED FOR SOME CREDIT SO THEREFORE HE/SHE SEEMS THE ONE MOST EXPERIENCED TO HANDLE IT

WITH RESPECT DAVE CASTER

[Karen]

I haven't been following this thread, but the current situation is now being discussed by the moderators ...
I'm having a deja vu attack ...

This was from Kerry to the moderators on Dec 23, 2008
Hi All: I have been notified that XXXX is badgering The Watcher... Regardless of the underlying reason for that it must stop! The Watcher is our guest. He is a whistleblower and regardless of your personal opinion of him I request that you do not interfere with his posts... or argue with him. If you want to communicate your pov to me you are welcome to do so. Thank you. Kerry

[Kari Lynn]

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[blastawaycas]

GOOGLE IMAGES BOB LAZAR PAYSLIP AND IT IS THERE IN GLORIOUS BLACK 7 WHITE !!!!! ................... CASTING ASPERTIONS Kari Lynn !!!

you are turning this personal

as regards the other you do need to be US citizen to work for any of the agencies !!!!!!!!!!!!!

with respect Dave

[Helvetic]

Its realy a shame what Im reading here. Im following this tread since the beginning.
Instead paying respect to the whistleblowers some paranoid people badgering and discredit the people coming foreward.
Whats wrong with you people? No wonder whistleblowers leave this forum.
You want disclosure? How do you think you can handle the truth if you cant handle the truth in a single forum tread?
This is again a nice measurement to proof people are not ready, sad but true.

[Steve_A]

Hi Karen,

I think you spelt my name wrong.

It's not written XXXX, it's written steve_a.

I was probably the first to doubt the veracity of Mr. Kings' claims, but was asked to lay off, which of course I did.

I may not be able to write about what I think about Mr. King and his claims, however I can still think about them.

Which brings me to this post. It's better to not argue the toss with someone in the forums when they make incredible claims. Just decide if you think what is being presented is the truth.

If you have a doubt, ask searching questions. Analyse the answers.

Truth is unique, sole, mighty, as there is only one.

Slavver ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slavver ) comes in many shapes and sizes.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Karen

I haven't been following this thread, but the current situation is now being discussed by the moderators ...
I'm having a deja vu attack ...

This was from Kerry to the moderators on Dec 23, 2008
Hi All: I have been notified that XXXX is badgering The Watcher... Regardless of the underlying reason for that it must stop! The Watcher is our guest. He is a whistleblower and regardless of your personal opinion of him I request that you do not interfere with his posts... or argue with him. If you want to communicate your pov to me you are welcome to do so. Thank you. Kerry

[Helvetic]

You did it again Steve_A! Whats wrong with you?
Nobody needs your arrogant, stupid comments and links about "Slavver" here!!

[Steve_A]

Hi Helvetic,

I didn't think I was being arrogant to post a point of view.

If that comes across as arrogant to you, I can accept it, due to our difference in culture, but on the contrary of being arrogant I also stated that we shouldn't bicker in the forum, that we should just accept or not what is being posted.

To my suprise the very first post came from somebody who wanted to bicker. Go figure.

I put a link to "slavver" as an afterthought to try and explain what the word meant in the context that I used it. Not everybody is from the UK in this forum. You will notice that the link points to an 'urbain' dictionary, which explains slang words. Slavver in its' true sense wouldn't have made sense in the sentance.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Helvetic

You did it again Steve_A! Whats wrong with you?
Nobody needs your arrogant, stupid comments and links about "Slavver" here!!

[Helvetic]

I dont care if your "Slavver" points to an urbain dictionary or not.
We all know your point of view in this subject from your previous posts...

This was from Kerry to the moderators on Dec 23, 2008
Hi All: I have been notified that Steve_A is badgering The Watcher... Regardless of the underlying reason for that it must stop! The Watcher is our guest. He is a whistleblower and regardless of your personal opinion of him I request that you do not interfere with his posts... or argue with him. If you want to communicate your pov to me you are welcome to do so. Thank you. Kerry

And I dont think the "difference in culture" gives you the right to treaten a
person this way, its poor and respectless. This is my point of view!

[Steve_A]

Hi Helvetic,

I have never threatened anybody on this forum.

I would like to know where you got this sort of information from as this is a very serious accusation.

I know that everybody knows my position from previous posts. That's why I posted them, to let people know.

You see I hide nothing. It's better that way.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Helvetic

I dont care if your "Slavver" points to an urbain dictionary or not.
We all know your point of view in this subject from your previous posts...



And I dont think the "difference in culture" gives you the right to treaten a
person this way, its poor and respectless. This is my point of view!