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Old 10-30-2008, 04:57 AM   #1
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Is Barack Obama the “promised warrior” coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

By Amir Taheri

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” Commanding “the strongest army on earth,” the new ruler in the West will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.”

In a curious coincidence Obama’s first and second names–Barack Hussein–mean “the blessing of Hussein” in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means “he is with us,” the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.

Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama’s rise as another sign of the West’s decline and the triumph of Islam. Obama’s promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat. Obama’s position could mean abandoning three resolutions passed by the United Nations Security Council setting conditions that Iran should meet to avoid sanctions. Seeking unconditional talks with the Khomeinists also means an admission of moral equivalence between the U.S. and the Islamic Republic. It would imply an end to the description by the U.S. of the regime as a “systematic violator of human rights.”

Obama has abandoned claims by all U.S. administrations in the past 30 years that Iran is “a state sponsor of terrorism.” Instead, he uses the term “violent groups” to describe Iran-financed outfits such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

Obama has also promised to attend a summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference within the first 100 days of his presidency. Such a move would please the mullahs, who have always demanded that Islam be treated differently, and that Muslim nations act as a bloc in dealings with Infidel nations.

Obama’s election would boost President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s chances of winning a second term next June. Ahmadinejad’s entourage claim that his “steadfastness in resisting the American Great Satan” was a factor in helping Obama defeat “hardliners” such as Hillary Clinton and, later, it hopes, John McCain.

“President Ahmadinejad has taught Americans a lesson,” says Hassan Abbasi, a “strategic adviser” to the Iranian president. “This is why they are now choosing someone who understands Iran’s power.” The Iranian leader’s entourage also point out that Obama copied his campaign slogan “Yes, We Can” from Ahmadinejad’s “We Can,” used four years ago.

A number of Khomeinist officials have indicated their preference for Obama over McCain, who is regarded as an “enemy of Islam.” A Foreign Ministry spokesman says Iran does not wish to dictate the choice of the Americans but finds Obama “a better choice for everyone.” Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Islamic Majlis, Iran’s ersatz parliament, has gone further by saying the Islamic Republic “prefers to see Barack Obama in the White House” next year.

Tehran’s penchant for Obama, reflected in the official media, increased when the Illinois senator chose Joseph Biden as his vice-presidential running mate. Biden was an early supporter of the Khomeinist revolution in 1978-1979 and, for the past 30 years, has been a consistent advocate of recognizing the Islamic Republic as a regional power. He has close ties with Khomeinist lobbyists in the U.S. and has always voted against sanctions on Iran.

Ahmadinejad has described the U.S. as a “sunset” (ofuli) power as opposed to Islam, which he says is a “sunrise” (toluee) power. Last summer, he inaugurated an international conference called World Without America–attended by anti-Americans from all over the world, including the U.S.

Seen from Tehran, Obama’s election would demoralize the U.S. armed forces by casting doubt on their victories in Iraq and Afghanistan, if not actually transforming them into defeat. American retreat from the Middle East under Obama would enable the Islamic Republic to pursue hegemony of the region. Tehran is especially interested in dominating Iraq, thus consolidating a new position that extends its power to the Mediterranean through Syria and Lebanon.

During the World Without America conference, several speakers speculated that Obama would show “understanding of Muslim grievances” with regard to Palestine. Ahmadinejad hopes to persuade a future President Obama to adopt the “Iranian solution for Palestine,” which aims at creating a single state in which Jews would quickly become a minority.

Judging by anecdotal evidence and the buzz among Iranian bloggers, while the ruling Khomeinists favor Obama, the mass of Iranians regard (and dislike) the Democrat candidate as an appeaser of the mullahs. Iran, along with Israel, is the only country in the Middle East where the United States remains popular. An Obama presidency, perceived as friendly to the oppressive regime in Tehran, may change that.

(LINK to Forbes.com Amir Taheri is the author of 10 books on Iran, the Middle East and Islam. His new book The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution will be published by Encounter Books in November.)

Here u go .. this goes good with that info ..

I ponder how many now are gonna believe it .. !! (me thinks its all disinfo)

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Old 10-30-2008, 04:43 PM   #2
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If you think it's disinformation, why do you post it?? Amir Taheri has a history of writing false stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:16 PM   #3
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If you think it's disinformation, why do you post it?? Amir Taheri has a history of writing false stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri

Why not ? 99.99999% of the posts are Disinfo on here?!

Duh?

Where u been?
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:20 PM   #4
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It shows that he really does want peace

I dont see Iran as a threat either. Just because bush says so. I have to my mouth right now to be nice about how I feel about bush

I want peace and if this is it Thank God
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:46 PM   #5
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Why not ? 99.99999% of the posts are Disinfo on here?!

Duh?

Where u been?

I don't think it's 99.999999%. There is some good resource/news info on this site. I do think certain people are posting stuff just to get out their agenda, or to distract, or because they are bored and they want to stir stuff up. Why not just state their opinion and get it over with instead of piece mailing us a bunch of disinformation. You know who you are.

Oh yeah. I've been here, weeding thru this stuff trying to find good info. Duh yourself.
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:33 PM   #6
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joke.

this whole site is becoming one massive joke.

a few see it, thankfully.

Peace!
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:43 PM   #7
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What is happening to this site?

Where are the moderators?

How can this **** be posted?

It's getting to be a joke!

Wake up!!!!

It's turning into the David Icke forum!
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:48 PM   #8
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What is happening to this site?

Where are the moderators?

How can this **** be posted?

It's getting to be a joke!

Wake up!!!!

It's turning into the David Icke forum!
exactly, thank you.

its gone a bit further than a joke, really..

never thought Id say it, but this place is absolutely pathetic now.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:04 PM   #9
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Does anyone here recognize that 9/11 was a false flag operation?

Do you recognize that the anthrax letters were intended to antagonize the Muslim?

The Muslims are not as crazy as our government would lead us to believe.

They understand the consequence of mutually assured destruction. Balance of power is necessary in the Middle East as in anywhere else.



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Old 10-30-2008, 07:42 PM   #10
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Default So what does the Obama logo mean, anyway?





http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/...o-mean-anyway/


This is so that there is no doubt in anybodys mind of what Obama represents more than anything
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:46 PM   #11
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wow man, the content of your posts speak volumes.

seriously.

way to go buddy.

nice job in helping to make this site into one of the biggest jokes on the internet.
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:47 PM   #12
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looks like the flouride stripes in toothpaste -
subliminal -
all brush your teeth and lose your third eye
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:48 PM   #13
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http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/...o-mean-anyway/


This is so that there is no doubt in anybodys mind of what Obama represents more than anything
mntruthseeker are you on a mission ore what, as I see it you are driving a hate campaign against Barack Obama and I don't find it to be in line with the Avalon guidelines, hope you get banned.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:04 PM   #14
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In the link you have provide there is a comparison between the Obama campaign-logo and some Stewart Swerdlow archetype but there isnīt a picture of the "swerdlow-archetype" only the campaign-logo, that is nothing but lies and slander .
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:08 PM   #15
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In the link you have provide there is a comparison between the Obama campaign-logo and some Stewart Swerdlow archetype but there isnīt a picture of the "swerdlow-archetype" only the campaign-logo, that is nothing but lies and slander .
it doesn't matter.... I pointed out the issues when mntruthseeker used Faux News as a compass for his/her truths and 4 more separate threads get generated
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Old 10-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #16
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http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/20...e-removed-fro/


me thinks this is really just a dream.........now if they take mccain off also we can all dream

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Old 10-30-2008, 04:15 PM   #17
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probably just the first step to get hilary back on tha ballot.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:27 PM   #18
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here's the deal. if obama is truly not eligible to be president....WE WOULD NOT STILL BE BRINGING THIS UP LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION

if there was any truth to this, he would have been removed from the race looong ago
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:26 PM   #19
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here's the deal. if obama is truly not eligible to be president....WE WOULD NOT STILL BE BRINGING THIS UP LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION

if there was any truth to this, he would have been removed from the race looong ago
Not necessarily, they can do what they need to do at anytime.

Interesting how things go aint it?
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:05 PM   #20
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That's odd. Because the Obama Campaign has been calling my house everyday here in North Carolina.
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:17 PM   #21
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This year, Zbig is back, running foreign policy for Hussein. Indeed, remember Mark, son of Zbig? Mark was one of the sons to whom Zbig dedicated Between Two Ages in 1970. Mark is all grown up now and shaving. Can you imagine? Mark is foreign policy adviser to Senator Hussein. So who is foreign policy adviser to Senator McCain this year? The envelope please! El Senador Juan McCain’s foreign policy adviser this year is Ian Brzezinski, the other Zbigniew son.

Notice that our Communist media say nothing about this. They understand perfectly well that if they sass David Rockefeller they could lose their jobs. So they specialize in arguing about lesser fry. So, sure, vote next week, but do so with the assurance that it makes no difference; that the conspiracy for world government has already chosen our next President. He is Rockefeller prime minister and Marxist Zbigniew Brzezins.

Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=5643
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:21 PM   #22
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This is ridiculous, the Democratic-party would newer-ewer nominate Barack Obama if they didn't know with absolute certainty that he was an American citizen, they know EVERYTHING about him and he would not be a nominee if he wasn't an American citizen. All this Obama-threads are hilariously ridiculous, one is crazier then the other.
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:03 AM   #23
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Not necessarily, they can do what they need to do at anytime.

Interesting how things go aint it?
if this is true, why isn't hillary on the ticket?
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:21 PM   #24
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me thinks this is really just a dream.........now if they take mccain off also we can all dream
No offense to the OP, but this is total BS. They reference the Berg lawsuit which has not yet been determined by any judge. The NC governor cannot arbitrarily remove a candidate just because he or she thinks that an undetermined private lawsuit has merit.

They can try, but it won't fly.
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Old 10-30-2008, 07:31 PM   #25
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At the wery moment I am writing this there is FOUR Obama-Threads on the New-Post list, and three of them are "Obama-bashing", Iīm getting sick and tired of this forum with all itīso called enlightened people, I have newer seen so many DUM-ASSES in one place at the same time.
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