David Icke on 'Is Alex Jones a Fearmonger'

[aroundthetable]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

no your not interested? So if alex does step out of line or acts like a maniac, its hear no evil see no evil, if i dont see it it doesnt exist stance? No one is free from criticism! check out your hero in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

Please leave the ranting to the experts.

[Seashore]

One thing about Alex Jones that I am puzzled about, however, is the fact that he showcases Rima Laibow and Gen Bert Stubblebine on his show.

I have chalked this off to not vetting thoroughly, but I am alert for other explanations for this if they come along.

[observer]

It so often amazes me how those with the least amount of understanding, usually have the most to say....

Let's all just ignore the evidential fact that the legends of "reptiles" have permeated the creation stories of EVERY indigenous people on the planet. Snakes, dragons, alligators, winged serpents, and a myriad of other forms of reptiles are depicted in mythologies from around the globe.

Do you think this was all made-up. NO!!! These mythologies are the interpretations of a primitive people trying their best - in the understanding of their time - to describe the phenomenon they where observing.... Reptilian Aliens "coming down" and influencing the social structure of civilization.... since the dawn of civilization.

Just as in our modern understanding of dimensions, what was once termed "manifestations of demons", can now be understood as entities from another dimension materializing here in this particular density. Reptiles are VERY real.... do the research !!!

It's obvious to me anyone making a statement regarding David Icke's reference to reptilian manipulation as bulls**it, has never read David Icke, or followed his research.

Anyone who follows the evidential trail [volumes of hard evidence - not "channeled" material - I might add] can be led to no other conclusion.

Discounting the importance of the message to society of people like David Icke, Alex Jones, or even our co-founder Bill Ryan for interviewing David, by calling them a "cook" is a great dis-service to the current needs of Humanity....

Did anyone even listen to the video where David is describing the difference between Fear and Knowledge?

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by observer

It so often amazes me how those with the least amount of understanding, usually have the most to say....


Did anyone even listen to the video where David is describing the difference between Fear and Knowledge?

Drat and blast, you beat me to the draw on this, my sentiments entirely.

I too have a question. Besides listening to the part on the difference between fear and knowledge, did anyone take their head out of the sand to try too UNDERSTAND what David was saying?

Hmmmm, I thought not.

[Sideshow Shaman]

Gentlemen, gentlemen,
This thread sounds like a bunch of old men bickering... so I must join!
(i will try to make a more productive post later tonight)

Firstly, i love Alex Jones for the educational role he plays. Secondly he can be called a fear monger for those that live in fear. I prefer to think of him as a Texas talk-radio host with a monster-truck-rally delivery. Is that a compliment or a disgrace?

Not really into his media products but i do appreciate his presence, in person, at demonstrations. He can energize a crowd. Just remember that he is a member of at least one secret society & he refuses to discuss Zionism, be that as it is.

[truth and integrity]

Originally posted by mu2143
And here there is a lot of newagers that go like... ooo it is fearmongering when they them self do not really know what there talking about is there own state of being.(They talk about love when there in a state of FEAR, is what I call lying to your self by pretending love) which in it self is another form of dictatorship

I agree with you. There are people who can not look at what is really going on, choosing to be blinded by channeled messages, idea of ascension, pseudo-science, or new age spirituality. Underlying feeling is a deeply suppressed fear. We can not judge them because not everybody has inner strengths to move out of his or her comfort zone and face those feelings.

Originally posted by Myplanet2
I have no fear, yet I really don't want to hear the fearmongering anymore, because it has nothing to do with the "truth" 90% of the time. What it has to do with is rumours, innuendos, speculations, gossip, disinfo, lies, possibilities, NLP and PTB plans.

True. It sells, isn’t?

What do these people like Icke, Jones, Rense, Quayle, Deagle, etc really know? They know no more than you or I. They "THINK". They wallow around in all this mental construction of their's and mix facts with their own speculations, and often faulty intuition.

I would not throw baby out of the bathtub. They are playing an important role to wake people up from mass hypnosis. It is a good shock therapy. However, it is dangerous when people stay with them too long rather than seeking the truth on their own.

This subject deserves it's own thread, so when I get a chance I'll start one on this misconception about fear/love and we can discuss this till the subject dies of old age.

Human mind is very tricky and utilizes many defense mechanisms that protect us to feel our feelings. Intellectualization is one of the most dangerous ego defenses used in our left brain society. BTW, love is a verb.

Best regards

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman

Just remember that he is a member of at least one secret society

I've never heard this before. How do you know?

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I've never heard this before. How do you know?

Sideshow may have been referring to this:

Alex Jones, Honorary Member, Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress RSICC

"Toward the Establishment of the Government of God on Earth"

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Sideshow may have been referring to this:

Alex Jones, Honorary Member, Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress RSICC

"Toward the Establishment of the Government of God on Earth"

Interesting.

"RSICC has been dormant for several years, due to lack of funding."

[Humble Janitor]

Never trust someone with a bullhorn.

And David Icke is still convinced on the reptilians and yet, where's the proof that they exist, other than a few dodgy youtube videos that look more like artifacting than genuine decloaking.

[aroundthetable]

Originally Posted by Majorion

If you Google search: Alex Jones Zionist
You get 171,000 results.

Now that's a lot of dirt on just one guy. And its very specific information, I worry that this may be true, because although much information discussed by AJ is correct, he has a broad reach and if these allegations are true then we must find out one way or the other and ascertain the motives.

I scroogled elvis lives on the moon and got 300,000,000,000. Must be true then.

Why do people still use google?!!!

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by aroundthetable

I scroogled elvis lives on the moon and got 300,000,000,000. Must be true then.

Why do people still use google?!!!

There's a monumental difference between getting many results concerning specific allegations about a prominent individual, and googling just anything.

[Zenbuoy]

...Click for Dead Man Musings

More Disinfo from Alex Jones Website

Photoshopped, OR NOT, after one has researched, or merely
followed the SHOW (an Icke reference,) it is apparent he has been approved.

When the diminutive JOURNALIST Amy Goodman is
aggressively nabbed by "cops" outside of a political convention
as she rushes to aide an "impounded" colleague
she raises her voice in protest.

When a BULLHORN toting showman
walks onto a scene it is with the device blasting
EVERYONE IS AWARE THE BULLHORN IS THERE.
One need only look at the body language of the "cops" as some turn EXPECTANTLY
and thereby passively as the performance begins.

**Is Alex Jones A Zionist Shill? '...Click it for Brother nathaniel's Three (3) Articles

[mu2143]

First of when I was posting about the reality of the PTB aganda you came crashing in to the post that I am DIS EMPOWERING as I recall when where also discussing what you can do to prefent from getting ill ?????

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=19578&page=2

Because there are so many solution to it. But now you just talk about the flu being HOAX when there is proof any many level that this virus is coming back, because it is designed to come back stronger.

I NOTICED that YOU simple ignore the facts when there is multiple sources talking about the flu coming back . I SMELL only one thing is when it comes to solutions you do not want do anything about it !!!!!!

I recognize where you are at, because I went through the same thing myself. Accusing people of being blind or afraid of looking at the truth. Until I realized how presumptuous that was of me, and how none of the nonsense I was afraid of and trying to convince others they should also be afraid of, ever came to pass. Remember all that hype about the fema trains. OOOOOH, they're lined up right outside my town. I can see them when I climb up this high tree. Run for the hills. It's GOING ON RIGHT NOW RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES AND YOU PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING THROUGH IT. DON"T BLAME ME WHEN YOUR DOOR COMES CRASHING IN AT 3:00 AM AND YOU ARE HAULED AWAY TO THE CAMPS FOR YOUR RE-EDUCATION!!!!!!!

Sorry to here you say this, just like I said belief your own lies. I already saw my future and that is one of freedom and not your hate belief.

And NO you do not recognize where I'm at, there your own words!!!

Just one thing are you ready to take the responsebility for the people that you could have warned about the truth, what is realy planned!!!

When the people are getting sick and are dying when you where telling it is just a hoax don't prepare ?
Or the marshal law suddenly is a reality then what??it is planned and you know it

Another statement that proofs you are in IGNORANCE!!!!

There are a hundred of these, and none of them have, nor will they, come to pass. The most damaging one I've seen yet, I think, was Icke's Reptilian stuff. That seems to just throw people for a terror trip, for some reason. I've run into reptilian's, and they only wish they were scary. But you get all these terrified children running around yelling the "aliens are coming to take our children and eat them, and AAAAAHHHHHH! It's just ludicrous. That is simply not going on. It used to, maybe, although I believe 90% of that was misunderstood/misinterpreted too, and it was really something else going on that they were simply not aware of.

Yet you stated that you do not FEAR, but do not want other people to post thing that does not fit YOUR ->BELIEFS-<???, By dictating what they can post and not!!!! If your where in a state of LOVE you would not FEAR its information, but again you do not want people to have the FREEDOM of SPEECH.

Not even close, MU. This post misses on many levels. It might be true for some people. I don't know. But it's certainly not true for many of the people you've accused of this very thing, like moi. I have no fear, yet I really don't want to hear the fearmongering anymore, because it has nothing to do with the "truth" 90% of the time. What it has to do with is rumours, innuendos, speculations, gossip, disinfo, lies, possibilities, NLP and PTB plans, (which have little chance of being permitted by those of us who really are awake).

Got this of the project camelot site think about it !!!

The act of KNOWING is a psychic act. If you wish to know you must use more senses than the standard six. This much is obvious. You must go beyond the confines of what you have been told are your limits

[synchronistic9]

"Eric Jon Phelps is a racist, a sexist, and thinks the sun revolves around the earth."
Is this eso from pal talk?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

"Eric Jon Phelps is a racist, a sexist, and thinks the sun revolves around the earth."
Is this eso from pal talk?

I have heard Eric being interviewed. This is my paraphrase of what he has said: "White men" should be in charge.

The comment about the sun revolving around the earth was made during an interview by Freeman. I was so astounded when I heard that I emailed Freeman and asked him about it. Freeman wrote back that he knew that Eric thought that and that's the reason why Freeman asked him the question.

[mu2143]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myplanet2
This subject deserves it's own thread, so when I get a chance I'll start one on this misconception about fear/love and we can discuss this till the subject dies of old age.

I agree 100% with everything you said.

Sorry I dis agree, because love is using your own power to create without controlling others.(Co-creating)

Fear is a state when your using your power of deception to control others!!
(Destruction)
Don't need to discuss what love and fear is. You should know this already!!!!

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by mu2143

Sorry I dis agree, because love is using your own power to create without controlling others.(Co-creating)

Fear is a state when your using your power of deception to control others!!
(Destruction)
Don't need to discuss what love and fear is. You should know this already!!!!

Does that mean you won't be participating in you new thread?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20075

I kind of hoped you would.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

This subject deserves it's own thread, so when I get a chance I'll start one on this misconception about fear/love and we can discuss this till the subject dies of old age.

I agree 100% with everything you said.

God bless, what a great post.