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Old 12-01-2008, 06:06 PM   #1
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Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.

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Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.
I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, you only got 1/4. Because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want. There is an unseen element of pyschological defeat, when you accept aliens as our gods.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?

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I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?
This will most probably get me another point from the moderators, but I just gotto tellya.

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This will most probably get me another point from the moderators, but I just gotto tellya.

DOOM, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER D**B*SS.
comments like that are only helping my aguement here you know. has it really already broken down to childish ridicule?
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comments like that are only helping my aguement here you know. has it really already broken down to childish ridicule?
What ever you religious-dogmatist, you just don't get it do you.
THE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT IS A FALSIFICATION, get it through your thick scull, and it is this FALS HISTORY that YOU are KLINGING ON TO.
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What ever you religious-dogmatist, you just don't get it do you.
THE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT IS A FALSIFICATION, get it through your thick scull, and it is this FALS HISTORY that YOU are KLINGING ON TO.
what are you even talking about? I'm not religious at all in any way shape or form. And I know we have been lied to and misinformed about history. . Have you thouroughly read any of my posts? You should try to understand what I'm saying before you make comments like this that don't even make sense.
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Interesting video but I still like Jordon Maxwell work any way his work only part of truth his work makes cents .
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I agree watchmen even if some of his info. is slightly misaligned (concerning his english-aramaic/bic and sumerian word combinations) i feel he's opened people's eyes to agendas that wouldn't have normally have been exposed,although Icke and others would have provided this info. it's still a step in an awakening direction for some.
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its only part of the great complex Pluzz we all now what true deep down inside use .............
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:05 PM   #10
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jajajajaja .... debunking Maxwell now .... silly Muggles. After all these years...... hahahaha

I actaully met Jordan some 10 yrs ago now .... wow what an amazing person.

MY GRANDMOM ALWAYS TOLD ME ..... UNTIL YOU WALK IN SOMEONES SHOEs YOU CAN NEVER JUDGE THEM.

Jordan for sure is the Symbolism GodFather .....

I know i know .... TRUTH HURTS!!

Well folks .... what are all the bickering minded people going to do as the AKASHIC RECORDS become obtainable to all very SHORTLY....

BYE BYE SEPERTISM!!!

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Doom, I suggest you google Credo Mutwa. His interviews are also availabe via transcripts. Now as I've personal contact with a number of contactees whose stories are indeed amazing and true.. what is true is based on their personal experiences. I've also been in this field of research since the early 1970s.. that means there is a good 35 years plus - studying this topic, talking to the people involved, reading/ediiting unpublished manuscripts and testimonies from high ranking government officials and the direct interviews of many of the people you are dissing here.. so in essence grasshopper, there is a steep learning curve still to climb on your part.

Tearing someone apart to fit your limited viewpoint and opinion does not serve the greater good here.
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Doom, I suggest you google Credo Mutwa.
Already seen his interview with icke and have read all about him, his story is a complete croc(no-pun intended).

And i'm not tearing anyone apart to fit any viewpoint. I'm just explaining and providing information on what counter-intelligence is and what the new age is and how to spot it, I'll recommend you research those. Exposing lies that spin the truth into non-sense in order to discredit it is absolutely for the greater good. We'll never stop the new world order chasing aliens, i promsie you that.

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Some of the most damning evidence from the movie occurs about 27 or 28 minutes in where the origins of his assumed name are discussed. After viewing it is difficult to believe that Mr. Maxwell hasn't been disingenuous when discussing where it came from.

I'm afraid that Jordan Maxwell is just another member of the modern mythology sub-culture that are in the business of producing 'faux-reality' shows and books.

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Whenever there comes along a person who claims that we are created by other living beings they always get severely attacked by the religious right-wing of ALL DOMINATIONS, that in it's self tells you something doesn't it.
Remember Erich Von Däniken, any one?
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Why is there suddenly a bout of recriminations on Jordan Maxwell?
I have just looked at youtube and there are uploaded another set of anti maxwell vids?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=03kx7-qiYjU
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Why is there suddenly a bout of recriminations on Jordan Maxwell?
I have just looked at youtube and there are uploaded another set of anti maxwell vids?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=03kx7-qiYjU
I haven't watched this, but I'm just going to throw this out there. It could be because more and more ppl are beggining to actually wake up, and expose many of these false truth movement leaders. Then again, it could be just more Chris White type non-sense.
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Whenever there comes along a person who claims that we are created by other living beings they always get severely attacked by the religious right-wing of ALL DOMINATIONS, that in it's self tells you something doesn't it.
Remember Erich Von Däniken, any one?
Yea i remember him, he paid a mexican kid to carve things into a cave, and then sold it to the public as evidence of ancient astronauts. He was a fraud. The mainstream media even gave it a good push. It may have got a lot of what appeared bad publicity in the mainstream (he was demonized a lot), but any publicity is good publicity. It was getting mentioned in papers and what not all the time. Counter-intelligence at work as usual.
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Yea i remember him, he paid a mexican kid to carve things into a cave, and then sold it to the public as evidence of ancient astronauts. He was a fraud. The mainstream media even gave it a good push. It may have got a lot of what appeared bad publicity in the mainstream (he was demonized a lot), but any publicity is good publicity. It was getting mentioned in papers and what not all the time. Counter-intelligence at work as usual.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, instead of responding to the HARD-CORE issues and discuss what Däniken and Maxwell really are talking about, all people like you do is to find a crack in the personality of the messenger and then use that to MISSCREDIT and DESTROY him or her. This only prows that your wrong on the issues.
The problem for you is that most intelligent people can see through that GAIL BU****IT.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about, instead of responding to the HARD-CORE issues and discuss what Däniken and Maxwell really are talking about, all people like you do is to find a crack in the personality of the messenger and then use that to MISSCREDIT and DESTROY him or her. This only prows that your wrong on the issues.
The problem for you is that most intelligent people can see through that GAIL BU****IT.
But it's true. Do you deny this story? Look it up. Daniken is part of a heavily funded counter intelligence operation. what hardcore issues are you talking about. How about 'the disappearing male' (see my thread on avalon health forum) and how we're being sterilzed by people in lab coats, while new agers are busy chasing aliens and repitlians.

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But it's true. Do you deny this story? Look it up. Daniken is part of a heavily funded counter intelligence operation. what hardcore issues are you talking about. How about 'the disappearing male' (see my thread on avalon health forum) and how we're being sterilzed by people in lab coats, while new agers are busy chasing aliens and repitlians.

The real HARDCORE ISSUE is that God is not a bearded angry old guy that sits in the heavens, the issue is that the God's our creators are of EXSTRATERRESTRIAL origin, That is the hard-core issue that Däniken Maxwell Sitchin and others are talking about and that my friend is a bullet that you can not dodge for ever.

The disappearing male has to do with Chemical pollution and nothing else.
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I think everyone on this thread needs to smoke Dymethyltryptamine. Open up the gland, just once...then this whole arguing bit would disappear. The word Extraterrestrials would be replaced with Extra dimensionals, able to lower frequency to terrestrial.
Our race has more power than any of them. We've just been blinded into not seeing it.

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The word Extraterrestrials would be replaced with Extra dimensionals, able to lower frequency to terrestrial.
Our race has more power than any of them. We've just been blinded into not seeing it.

This I could actually agree on, there is a possibility that some of the ET's are of extra dimensional character. You are also right on the human capability, we have enormous powers and capabilities within ourselves that is laying dormant in all of us, also one of the hidden truths is that we are all interconnected, we are all one collective subconscious, our souls are all connected.
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we are all one collective subconscious, our souls are all connected.
heres even more new age stuff. In fact this in one of the main ideas of the new age religon, which was taken from ancient hinduism. this is exactly the new world order agenda, to make us into 'the borg', in a hive mind consciousness. The new world order is about the destruction of the individual and it's well on it's way. Look into the symbolism of the bee and beehive.

I have tonnes of reports of the hive mind, about turning us into borg:

for one, look into this report:
"NANOTECHNOLOGY, BIOTECHNOLOGY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND COGNITIVE SCIENCE"
National Science Foundation / Department Of Commerce-sponsored report - June 2002
(Large .PDF file approx. 7 MB): NBIC 405-page report. http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...ublication.pdf



And here is a follow up article about this report:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...898931815.html

US report foretells of brave new world
By Nathan Cochrane
July 23 2002

A draft government report says we will alter human evolution within 20 years by combining what we know of nanotechnology, biotechnology, IT and cognitive sciences. The 405-page report sponsored by the US National Science Foundation and Commerce Department, Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance, calls for a broad-based research program to improve human performance leading to telepathy, machine-to-human communication, amplified personal sensory devices and enhanced intellectual capacity.

People may download their consciousnesses into computers or other bodies even on the other side of the solar system, or participate in a giant "hive mind", a network of intelligences connected through ultra-fast communications networks. "With knowledge no longer encapsulated in individuals, the distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur," the report says. "Think Vulcan mind-meld. We would perhaps become more of a hive mind - an enormous, single, intelligent entity."

Armies may one day be fielded by machines that think for themselves while devices will respond to soldiers' commands before their thoughts are fully formed, it says. The report says the abilities are within our grasp but will require an intense public-relations effort to "prepare key organisations and societal activities for the changes made possible by converging technologies", and to counter concern over "ethical, legal and moral" issues. Education should be overhauled down to the primary-school level to bridge curriculum gaps between disparate subject areas.

Professional societies should be open to practitioners from other fields, it says. "The success of this convergent-technologies priority area is crucial to the future of humanity," the report says.

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heres even more new age stuff. In fact this in one of the main ideas of the new age religon, which was taken from ancient hinduism. this is exactly the new world order agenda, to make us into 'the borg', in a hive mind consciousness. The new world order is about the destruction of the individual and it's well on it's way. Look into the symbolism of the bee and beehive.

You haven't got a clue man do you, it is the exact opposite, when we humanbeings understands our true nature we will strengthen our individuality, what you are actually saying Doom is that we should fight against and oppress our true nature in order to be individuals, that is just stupid.
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You haven't got a clue man do you, it is the exact opposite, when we humanbeings understands our true nature we will strengthen our individuality, what you are actually saying Doom is that we should fight against and oppress our true nature in order to be individuals, that is just stupid.
That is all new age talk bro, please study it a bit before making such comments. We as a human race are being wiped and you are busy chasing a lie about alien origins of humanity. Of course we must study the past to help us understand how this sytem of control upon us works, but it has absoutely nothing to do with aliens, that's all complete dis-info. We can't be wasting out time chasing lies about ancient astronauts, even if the whole world got up up tomorrow morning believing we were created by aliens that would DO NOTHING to solve anything. But that's your choice, if you are afraid of knowledge that's your choice. Unless you've actually studied counter-intelligence and the new age and still believe what you do, then i would respect your opinion, but it is obvious you haven't cause you're falling right into it, a text book example of a new ager.

I really don't like the way this conversation is going, it's getting insulting etc. look, I've studied for many years - all the alien agenda stuff that you believe, and I don't agree. So you'll just have to agree to disagree with me, we are allowed to have different opinions. But i think it's only fair you look at the big picture and try to understand the new age movement. I think that would easily disprove your theories. That is just my opinion though. If you have already studied much of this and still beleive what you believe, then we're just have to agree to have differing opinions. I decided to come here for the purpose of waking up new agers, as I believe they have the best shot as opposed to those who are still stuck in the mainstream paradigms. But I am not going to do the research for anyone or tell anyone what they should think. I'm just trying to get out this information about counter-intellgegnce and the new age movement so that people can decide to look into it themselves, cause a person cannot be forced to wake up, they must take the intiative to wake up themselves.

And i'll mention that I do not "fight and oppress our true nature". Our true nature is our survival isntinct, and has nothing to do with aliens. Believing aliens are gods that created us is basically given up your survival instinct. Our true nature should be fighting back this new world order, and not allowing our minds to be disabled and spun into outterspace by disinfo. Our survival instinct only stays in tact when our minds do.

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