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Old 11-24-2008, 02:11 PM   #1
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Default Re: Is our earth flat or round?

I brought this up a week ago when people were talking about Hollow Earth Theory.

One recurring theme between Flat Earth Theorists, Hollow Earth Theorists, Global Conspiracy Theorists etc, etc is their unerring ability to think "do not take things we are told at face value, don't just accept what you are told if it goes against your senses".

Now its fair enough to think like that, and certainly in some areas you need to look deeper than you are told, but also in some areas what you are told is actual FACT with no agenda behind it.

But the trouble with the "do not take things at face value, do not automatically accept what you are told" mentality is that it can take over your mindset and suddenly you believe ANYTHING that opposes the mainstream view on ANY subject.

All it takes is for somebody to suggest that pics of the spherical Earth are faked (by PTB), and offer a bit of pseudo science as evidence of flat earth, and believers are born.

Basically gullible people with the right mindset.

I see no difference between Flat Earth, Hollow Earth and many other highly unlikely theories, then people say to me "you're negative and narrow minded". No, I don't think so.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Is our earth flat or round?

I am afraid of this radicalism. But it is different to a hollow earth theory. Hollow earth makes sense while flat earth does not.

Even though I naturally find it hilarious anyone would be serious the earth is flat. I still want to take them seriously because I only care about sensible things so if they have reason to believe it then lets think about it and give them a chance.

First when you look at the moon and sun. Why is it round then? If the moon and sun is round there's a good chance planets are round. And it's unlikely that both moon and sun would be facing the right way if it was a flat disc.

From first hand experience this is sadly the only evidence I can offer and it is circumstantial.

I have not gone out of my way to know for sure. Let me think about it...
Lets say any photo can be faked although it's probably unlikely. Lets say all photo are unreliable.

I have never flown in a plane in a straight line so I can't say anything about that either.

I lack the means to prove it from first hand experience. The good thing is I am able to know that. Others don't know the difference between first hand experience and what is passed on to them from sources not fool proof.

It's safe to assume for me the world is round and hollow. I could be wrong. For now that's what the information is telling me.

From first hand experience that's all I can say about it.

Now I'm curious how to prove it to myself actually.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:55 PM   #3
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I brought this up a week ago when people were talking about Hollow Earth Theory.

One recurring theme between Flat Earth Theorists, Hollow Earth Theorists, Global Conspiracy Theorists etc, etc is their unerring ability to think "do not take things we are told at face value, don't just accept what you are told if it goes against your senses".

Now its fair enough to think like that, and certainly in some areas you need to look deeper than you are told, but also in some areas what you are told is actual FACT with no agenda behind it.

But the trouble with the "do not take things at face value, do not automatically accept what you are told" mentality is that it can take over your mindset and suddenly you believe ANYTHING that opposes the mainstream view on ANY subject.

All it takes is for somebody to suggest that pics of the spherical Earth are faked (by PTB), and offer a bit of pseudo science as evidence of flat earth, and believers are born.

Basically gullible people with the right mindset.

I see no difference between Flat Earth, Hollow Earth and many other highly unlikely theories, then people say to me "you're negative and narrow minded". No, I don't think so.
Well said, and reasoning that is very applicable to many other against-the-mainstream claims. I'll go one further and say that the flat/hollow Earthers have almost a disinformation/discreditation flavor about their work.
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