Who's the real god worshiped by high rank masons?

[Kelphi]

Jacqui,

They are the best at controlling you from going to church.

Steven A.

Atheism is a religion because it is a belief system. You are not immune. Atheists are actually the most religious people on the planet by virtue of sparseness. More than 80% of the planet believe in a god. It takes a lot of religion to believe we did not come from a creator/God. Just look at all this order. Takes a lot of religion to believe it all came from a big bang.

[Steve_A]

Hi Kelphi,

a·the·ism (th-zm)
n.
1.
a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
b. The DOCTRINE that there is no God or gods.
2. Godlessness; immorality.


re·li·gion (r-ljn)
n.
1.
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

doc·trine (dktrn)
n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Archaic Something taught; a teaching.


Don't confuse religion with doctrine.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Kelphi

Jacqui,

They are the best at controlling you from going to church.

Steven A.

Atheism is a religion because it is a belief system. You are not immune. Atheists are actually the most religious people on the planet by virtue of sparseness. More than 80% of the planet believe in a god. It takes a lot of religion to believe we did not come from a creator/God. Just look at all this order. Takes a lot of religion to believe it all came from a big bang.

[777 The Great Work]

[QUOTE=Kelphi;76697]Jacqui,

They are the best at controlling you from going to church.

We really have to start studying and unraveling the English language. The word church derives from the greek goddess CIRCE. Circe was know to invite men into her camp and make them intoxicated with her wine and seduce them. This word was chosen based on the agenda of organized religion seducing man and causing him to seek outside of him self for the divine.

Circe is the woman in revelations with the golden cup that made mankind drunk with her religion.This is also where we get the word Circus and a circus it is.Circe is the Whore of Babylon. Don't take my word, seek it out for youself.

[KathyT]

I am going to give my opinion about Masons. I am a woman. My husband’s father has been a staunch Mason all his life. Early on, I realized that Masons was ALL about Men, and would not allow a woman to be a Mason. Please, don’t anyone try to convince me that women can be in Eastern Star instead (which allows both men and women to join.)

This flat out discrimination is repugnant to me. And I continue to be vocal and tell any Mason what I think of their discriminatory fellowship anytime it’s necessary. Yep, my father-in-law heard my opinion many times.

Those who are not masons have no basis, but hearsay, to condemn their organization. Unless you are a part of an activity or organization, then you do not know any truths thereof. If you were born in the USA or Europe, then, believe it or not, your ancestors were masons, somewhere along the line. The masonic order began as a trade group to protect those in the building trades. A trade union, if you will, with normal union members Most of you have bricklayers, stone masons, ect. for ancestry trades.

I am appalled by the number of people on this forum that swear whatever negative book they read or negative interview they see is the gospel. As long as it is portraying something bad about someone or something then it is considered truth . Perhaps you do not realize that by focusing on how bad everyone is that you are giving more power to evil than to good. This is called worshipping evil. Think about it. If you are a bible believer, then you should not have to worry about evil because God is all powerful. If you do not believe the bible as truth then you should be way beyond hate by this time.

You all are so into ascension [ I call it finally learning to graduate], but you still hang on to the old paradigms of hate and pointing fingers at others. This is elitism at best. "I am better than you" mindset. This is as old as civilization itself. There are those who are more positive in their approach to life and those who are opposite in their approach to life. Notice, I do not say negative because it is irrelevant and relative. What is negative to one may be new and positve to another. Have you ever been smothered and styfled by a "positve" person thinking they are the practicing the truth? This is why postive and negative is relative to the sender and receiver.

The law of acceptance, means just that. Accept that those amongst you are different, not evil. All things are the creator, both sides brought to balance. This is why you are here; to learn this simple fact and to achieve balance and become within the one.

Alexandra

[Gnosis5]

Alexandra, I agree with you, thank you for the correction. The best leaders are the ones who can see all viewpoints involved without dramatic reactivity and getting pulled into the game.

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Those who are not masons have no basis, but hearsay, to condemn their organization. Unless you are a part of an activity or organization, then you do not know any truths thereof. If you were born in the USA or Europe, then, believe it or not, your ancestors were masons, somewhere along the line. The masonic order began as a trade group to protect those in the building trades. A trade union, if you will, with normal union members Most of you have bricklayers, stone masons, ect. for ancestry trades.

I am appalled by the number of people on this forum that swear whatever negative book they read or negative interview they see is the gospel. As long as it is portraying something bad about someone or something then it is considered truth . Perhaps you do not realize that by focusing on how bad everyone is that you are giving more power to evil than to good. This is called worshipping evil. Think about it. If you are a bible believer, then you should not have to worry about evil because God is all powerful. If you do not believe the bible as truth then you should be way beyond hate by this time.

You all are so into ascension [ I call it finally learning to graduate], but you still hang on to the old paradigms of hate and pointing fingers at others. This is elitism at best. "I am better than you" mindset. This is as old as civilization itself. There are those who are more positive in their approach to life and those who are opposite in their approach to life. Notice, I do not say negative because it is irrelevant and relative. What is negative to one may be new and positve to another. Have you ever been smothered and styfled by a "positve" person thinking they are the practicing the truth? This is why postive and negative is relative to the sender and receiver.

The law of acceptance, means just that. Accept that those amongst you are different, not evil. All things are the creator, both sides brought to balance. This is why you are here; to learn this simple fact and to achieve balance and become within the one.

Alexandra

[GoingToFast]

They Worship the god (god's) who gave Thutmose's-III the 10-COMANDMENTS.
Now, figure that one out if you can.

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

They Worship the god (god's) who gave Thutmose's-III the 10-COMANDMENTS.
Now, figure that one out if you can.

This is an outright falacy. The only god they believe in is the one they worship outside of the masons. This is not a religion. The masons is an age old fraternity. People of all faiths are welcome. Religion is not discussed, practiced, or even mentioned. The only belief you must have is a belief in the Superior higher power of your choice, e.g. Jehovah, God, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Adonai, The Creator, ect.

I suggest that perhaps it would be a good thing to investigate properly any subject on which you intend to comment. A good start would be from a reliable and not a sensational yellow journalistic source.

Attitudes, such as yours, is what causes so much dissention on this planet. Uninformed sources making false accusations against innocent parties. Did you know that when you do this that this breaks one of the ten commandments that you so highly treasure? "Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Alexandra

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

This is an outright falacy. The only god they believe in is the one they worship outside of the masons. This is not a religion. The masons is an age old fraternity. People of all faiths are welcome. Religion is not discussed, practiced, or even mentioned. The only belief you must have is a belief in the Superior higher power of your choice, e.g. Jehovah, God, Allah, Buddha, Krishna, Adonai, The Creator, ect.

I suggest that perhaps it would be a good thing to investigate properly any subject on which you intend to comment. A good start would be from a reliable and not a sensational yellow journalistic source.

Attitudes, such as yours, is what causes so much dissention on this planet. Uninformed sources making false accusations against innocent parties. Did you know that when you do this that this breaks one of the ten commandments that you so highly treasure? "Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Alexandra

The pharaoh Thutmoses-III where MOSES.
And Who where the Hebrews? They were the BUILDERS of ancient Egypt.

[GoingToFast]

Here's a few more for you.

Who is the "GUARDIAN OF THE TRUE FAITH".

Who is the Free-Masons "SUPREME PATRON".

British isles, B' RITH-ISH.

And one more thing, calling a Hebrew Jew is like calling a BUILDER a JEWELLER.

[GoingToFast]

Here's another one for you.

B'RITH=COVENANT.
Covenant, meaning a solemn contract, oath, or bond, is the customary word used to translate the Hebrew word berith (ברית, Tiberian Hebrew bərîṯ, Standard Hebrew bərit) as it is used in the Hebrew Bible, thus it is important to all Abrahamic religions. The equivalent word in the Septuagint and the New Testament is diatheke, see also Strong's G1242.

[GoingToFast]

If there ever will be a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT it's main CAPITOL will NOT lay in Israel. The main capitol will be LONDON, as it has been sins the fall of the Roman Empire. And for GOOD REASON or should I say FOR (the) GOD'S REASON.
Haven't you wondered about all them CROP-CIRCELS,hey

[GoingToFast]

And on a final note, the Masons real name is THE GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD.

Well, I am so sorry, I didn"t realize that you were such a scholar of U-Tube University.

Are You Egyptian?
Are You Hebrew?
Are You a Mason?
Are You an adept of the Great White Brotherhood?
Are you a researcher of any renowned legitimate books of history?
Are you a spiritual person who is trying to learn and grow?
Do you believe that anyone is right other that you?

I need much more than u-tube as an answer.

None of the information you have presented makes any sense. You make statements and do not support them with bonified text.
Alexandra

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Well, I am so sorry, I didn"t realize that you were such a scholar of U-Tube University.

Are You Egyptian?
Are You Hebrew?
Are You a Mason?
Are You an adept of the Great White Brotherhood?
Are you a researcher of any renowned legitimate books of history?
Are you a spiritual person who is trying to learn and grow?
Do you believe that anyone is right other that you?

I need much more than u-tube as an answer.

None of the information you have presented makes any sense. You make statements and do not support them with bonified text.
Alexandra

From the top.
1. No I'm not, I'm Swedish
2. Yes I am. (belive it or not but we are all Hebrew)
3. No but I am a postulant to A.M.O.R.C.
4. If I get initiated in to A.M.O.R.C. I will be part of the Brotherhood.
5. I read books if you can call that reasearch.
6. Yeas I am.
7. If someone are right, they are right , and if someone are wrong, they are wrong. It's as simple as that.

And the Masons are NOT evil.

[Peer]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

From the top.
1. No I'm not, I'm Swedish
2. Yes I am.
3. No but I am a postulant to A.M.O.R.C.
4. If I get initiated in to A.M.O.R.C. I will be part of the Brotherhood.
5. I read books if you can call that reasearch.
6. Yeas I am.
7. If someone are right, they are right , and if someone are wrong, they are wrong. It's as simple as that.

And the Masons are NOT evil.

Do not mistake the A.M.O.R.C. for masonry my friend.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Peer

Do not mistake the A.M.O.R.C. for masonry my friend.

No I am not mistaking A.M.O.R.C. for masonry, But A.M.O.R.C. is part of the GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD (and white have nothing to do with skin colour).

[Peer]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

No I am not mistaking A.M.O.R.C. for masonry, But A.M.O.R.C. is part of the GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD (and white have nothing to do with skin colour).

For you I hope reality will meet your expectations.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Peer

For you I hope reality will meet your expectations.

Peer, the main reason for me to become a postulant to A.M.O.R.C. was the Ancient Mystical and Esoteric teaching which is something that is not so predominant in the Free-Masons if I'm not mistaken, also curiosity was a reason. In this short time I have come to understand that the Masons purpose of existence is NOT evil.
I do know that some of the members are pompous A**HOLES but that doesn't make them evil does it.

[Peer]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

Peer, the main reason for me to become a postulant to A.M.O.R.C. was the Ancient Mystical and Esoteric teaching which is something that is not so predominant in the Free-Masons, if I'm not mistaken, also curiosity was a reason. In this short time I have come to understand that the Masons purpose of existence is NOT evil.
I do know that some of the members are pompous A**HOLES but that doesn't make them evil does it.

Hai GTF, it is always good to go and find the old writings and see what they bring.
But as I stated before: Masons do not worship any god and that is why all men of all religion can unite as Free Masons.
The bible is one of the attributes yes but if one member is a Muslim and another member is a Mormon you will find beside the bible also the quoran and the book of mormon because they do not contain the truth as many say but wisdom and they are used as a symbol of that.

The supreme being is addressed to as the High Architect of the Universe but still there is no worshiping.
Every lodge is autonome as is every mason and the task of every mason is to individually look for the truth, no more, no less.
Doing so you could consider yourself a mason....

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Peer

Hai GTF, it is always good to go and find the old writings and see what they bring.
But as I stated before: Masons do not worship any god and that is why all men of all religion can unite as Free Masons.
The bible is one of the attributes yes but if one member is a Muslim and another member is a Mormon you will find beside the bible also the quoran and the book of mormon because they do not contain the truth as many say but wisdom and they are used as a symbol of that.

The supreme being is addressed to as the High Architect of the Universe but still there is no worshiping.
Every lodge is autonome as is every mason and the task of every mason is to individually look for the truth, no more, no less.
Doing so you could consider yourself a mason....

OK peer I meet you half way and say this.
The foundation of Masonry are the TEN-COMMANDMENTS given to thutMOSES-III by the GOD'S (plural/ET) who ewer they may be.
If I'm not mistaken the Commandments are the foundation of many religions.
thutMOSES-III were also the founder of the BROTHERHOOD.

[Peer]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

OK peer I meet you half way and say this.
The foundation of Masonry are the TEN-COMMANDMENTS given to thutMOSES-III by the GOD'S (plural/ET) who ewer they may be.
If I'm not mistaken the Commandments are the foundation of many religions.
thutMOSES-III were also the founder of the BROTHERHOOD.

I am sorry but Masonry doesn't work by the ten commandments.

[RSF]

Perhap's not in the end. Just in the beginning.
RSF

[RSF]

From what I can tell after reading some of the maze of stuff out there, re who's the real god worshipped by high ranking masons, I suggest above the 31st degree -- Satan.
Frankly, the Mason/Illuminati area has me more perplexed than the UFO problem? Where the truth lies, I'm not sure?, but keep an open mind that all is not what it seems.

RSF

[Fredkc]

Who's the real god worshiped by high rank masons?

Do you think the eternal creator of all gives a damn how and by what name, or sex he is refered to?

Do you think that because someone disguises not-God as God, that my energies are lent to this creation? Does it matter since it won't include my intent?

Do you think a name, a rock, a crystal, a splotch of paint on a wall in some particular shape, carries some innate power/intent other than what you invest in it?

Just how do you design a not-God so no one can tell, then redirect their energies, without their intelligent intent, to some other purpose? How do you then hijack their real intent? And then, how do you stop them from subsequently getting a "bigger God"?

"It should be self evident that if there is only oneness, then anything else that appears to exist, must have been made up. Furthermore it must have been made up for appeared to be a very damned good reason.

Thus instead of judging the world and everything in it, perhaps it would be more helpful for you to ask what value you saw in making it up in the first place. It may also be wise to ask yourself what would be a more appropriate response to it now."

God Is... even patience is re-defined.