How to spot a Mason online and offline (part two)

[THE eXchanger]

the outer rings of the masons
are probably without exception,
good guys from your local community

it is when,
you move up, inside their inner circles,
and, proceed to 32/33 and above,
that it is vastly different

it is similiar to priests in a church
somewhere in the hierachy, things alter/change & shift
into something that is vastly different
than the "outside ring"

it is only when a "brotherhood/or sisterhood"
is rotten at the core, that there is a problem
unfortunately, these things,
are just that, "rotten at the core",
eventually, the outer circles, start to walk away,
and, then, you are just left with what is truly rotten.

many masons/shriners/eastern star people
do amasing work, in their communities,
however, most of them, are in the outer ring,
and, are NOT very aware,
of what is truly rotten at the core

when they ask people to join, they do NOT tell them very much

many are tempted, to discover "the secrets"

the nature of most people, is to want to belong to something

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[meekforce]

Think I found me a mason - AHH what do I do with him.

[David]

Has anyone here every joined a fraternity while in college? This is exactly what the masonic lodge is. I am a 32° Mason. All lodges control their own agendas. Grand lodges are only in place to insure rituals are performed properly. If a rouge mason has malevolent intentions, however unlikely, any doings of this nature is not endorsed by the masons and in fact they would be thrown out of the lodge and black listed throughout the country. End of story.

[Steve_A]

Hi eXchanger,

You always struck me as being one of the more 'level headed' members of the forum and so I was a little taken aback by your message.

I must ask you where you got your information from about the Freemasons and the church.

You describe the way things work so maticulously that you MUST have some sort of access to the truth.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by eXchanger

the outer rings of the masons
are probably without exception,
good guys from your local community

it is when,
you move up, inside their inner circles,
and, proceed to 32/33 and above,
that it is vastly different

it is similiar to priests in a church
somewhere in the hierachy, things alter/change & shift
into something that is vastly different
than the "outside ring"

it is only when a "brotherhood/or sisterhood"
is rotten at the core, that there is a problem
unfortunately, these things,
are just that, "rotten at the core",
eventually, the outer circles, start to walk away,
and, then, you are just left with what is truly rotten.

many masons/shriners/eastern star people
do amasing work, in their communities,
however, most of them, are in the outer ring,
and, are NOT very aware,
of what is truly rotten at the core

when they ask people to join, they do NOT tell them very much

many are tempted, to discover "the secrets"

the nature of most people, is to want to belong to something

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

...when they ask people to join, they do NOT tell them very much...

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

I know a Mason and, in conversations, he was quite adamant that Masons never ask people to join - you have to approach them and the process starts from there.

Regards
Gareth

[stal]

you're supposed to ask three times if you can join, but you can also be invited. i agree with what exchanger wrote above, most masons aren't 'in on it' untill they get to a very, very high level, and have the right 'attitude', so to speak. i know several low level masons, and they are great, hardworking people who help the community.

[Jenny]

You never get asked to join.

You have to approach them personally.

Free will, free choice.

Jenny.

[stal]

no offense jenny, but i was invited to join last year. i said i didnt want to, and that was that. it surprised me, because i always thought you HAD TO ask.

[Jenny]

I see.
It can happen sometimes a friend of a friend points to someone who would be a valuable member of a lodge. Yes that can happen but it is not the rule.

I am familiar with the Dutch Lodges and maybe there are differences in how they go about membership.
There are big differences between US lodges, Eastern EU lodges, UK lodges, Scottish lodges, Australian lodges imo.

No, I am not familiar with the higher degrees in masonery.

[weezle]

And if you do join, what are the "benefits" of it?

[David]

Originally Posted by weezle

And if you do join, what are the "benefits" of it?

Like everything else in life. You get what you put into it.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by weezle

And if you do join, what are the "benefits" of it?

Great if your running your own business, if you put in a tender for something and your the only mason the job is yours, and you used to be able to get off speeding tickets etc.

[Mike_Jetson]

Just a shame most 'bad' people are likely to be masons.

and im sure we know the down sides of the Vatican. Im sure the core is pretty rotten there

[Christo888]

http://www.joestirling.com/index.html?_ret_=return
posted by Fr33dom.

Sounds like "Joe the Plumber" lingo has been put to good use throughout the presidential debates quite effectively, and continues to move forward in plain site!

I wonder how the "American People," no wait "We," I mean "taxpayers," Ok s***, who 'spoke' in the elections "the American People" or the "taxpayers" I forget who's who in speeches anymore. Anyway as long as the "American Dream" is still alive and well that's all that matters, wait is that "taxpayers" lifestyle desires or... I can't keep up with the "playground" lingo much anymore. Well cheers to the "Red, White and Blue" just in time for the "Holidays" or is that red, white and blue, for being "Patriotic"? I guess their are "Hallmarks" all over that will keep us in the "Season," but in the "event" it isn't spelled out in plain sight than I guess we'll just keep voting our conscious. After all we did 'pledge allegiance to the flag'... the one in schools... or was it the ones in courtrooms... s***, it was the style of flag behind the podiums and uniforms, I forget which rules go with which style and which ones provide definitions to which allegiance pledged. I guess proper "Diplomacy" comes into play somewhere in all of this but we'll just let the "People" decide, I guess it does depend on what 'angle' you view it in and what 'degree' of understanding you have acquired.

Even Thoth liked Circles and Angles.

[Christo888]

Now I remember... "IN GOD WE TRUST"

D' OG- 'Dagon'