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Old 10-24-2008, 02:29 PM   #1
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Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views? 367 posts, and 13,680 views.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3397

IMO, I would put both of these interviews in the same class. Nothing new, very little
substance, a book sellers ploy. Hype over nothing. When will Bill and Kerry's book be
coming out?
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:44 PM   #2
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Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views? 367 posts, and 13,680 views.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3397

IMO, I would put both of these interviews in the same class. Nothing new, very little
substance, a book sellers ploy. Hype over nothing. When will Bill and Kerry's book be
coming out?

You must be getting old Norval. Skepticism at its best. Not one of their guests, on Camelot, give me the impression of wanting a "MESSIAH" label. I have yet to hear one of them mention buying their book. They each give us something to analyse or even research.

Tell me something, what are your plans in the next few years?
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Funny you should ask, as I just posted this here, ,

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...9&postcount=78

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R They each give us something to analyse or even research.
Hehe Yeah and 'some' get 'annoyed' when you follow the lead and actually dare to find and post something real to back it up...

Or dare to question their source.

Would it not make more sense and be more believable if they gave source documents and links etc other than just a good story? I mean its expected of us to back up everything... why do 'they' get a free pass?
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Just a little aside.

Von Braun took a lead from the Robert Goddard the father of american rocketry who lived and worked from 1930 - 1942 in...Roswell New Mexico.
Actually he took his lead from Herman Oberth, the German counterpart of Goddard... and Tsiolkovsky beat both of them with the design of the liquid fuel rocket... and finally got credit for being first...that is history
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I forgive you What's wrong with my signature? Do you doubt that 9/11 was an insidejob?
I don't know what exactly happened on that day, but I assure you the official report is the real conspiracy theory.
And I think you would agree about that.
Oh sure its an inside job, I just happen to believe that the NAZI's are still kicking under a different banner. I will let that rest right now as I can can not show you the proof yet... however Prescott Bush, Rockellers and Standard Oil funded the NAZI into power... THAT is history... and where are these three today? Bush still sits on the throne, Rockefellars still control money, and Standard Oil is now Exxon/Chevron et all. Exxon recorded record ever quarter profits in the opening year of the Iraqi Freedom Movement (that many MISTAKENLY call a "war")

Now as to 9/11 Particle Beam Weapon...

IF this was as you say BS explain to me how come the court case on this very issue was ..
A) Allowed to be filed in the first place considering the penalty for frivolous law suits in such a case
B) Has twice stood calls to dismiss...

Do you think our courts would have allowed this case to be heard if the judge did not feel there was enough evidence to proceed?

QUITAM COMPLAINT and JURY DEMAND DOCKET NO. May 31, 2007

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

Plaintiff/Relator,
DR. MORGAN REYNOLDS on behalf of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

vs.

Defendants. :
SCIENCE APPLICATIONS INTERNATIONAL CORP.;
APPLIED RESEARCH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
NuSTATS; COMPUTER AIDED ENGINEERING ASSOCIATES, INC.;
DATASOURCE, INC.; GEOSTAATS, INC.;
GILSANZ MURRAY STEFICEK LLP;
HUGHES ASSOCIATES, INC.; AJMAL ABBASI;
EDUARDO KAUSEL; DAVID PARKS;
DAVID SHARP; DANIELE VENEZANO;
JOSEF VAN DYCK; KASPAR WILLIAM;
ROLF JENSEN & ASSOCIATES, INC;
ROSENWASSER/GROSSMAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, P.C.;
SIMPSON GUMPERTZ & :HEGER, INC.;
S. K. GHOSH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
SKIDMORE, OWINGS & MERRILL, LLP;
TENG & ASSOCIATES, INC.;
UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES, INC.;
WISS, JANNEY, ELSTNER ASSOCIATES, INC.;

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...Jury_Trial.htm

CURRENT STATUS of this action

EVIDENCE FOR DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS PUT FORWARD IN A DQA REQUEST FOR CORRECTION: PERSONS WITH SUPPORTING INFORMATION ARE ASKED TO COME FORWARD AND BE HEARD


http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/N...Tam_Wood.shtml

So while you say BS... the Courts are hearing evidence

You can ask John Lear about this case as he has sworn an avidavit to add his voice to this complaint

You can also ask John about the current status of the NAZI and where he got that info from

Many people sit in forums and are arm chair rebels...

A handful are brave enough to take open action...

USA Military Officers Challenge Official Account of September 11
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...ed_%20911.html

They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine
Major General Albert Stubblebine was part of Project Stargate and after that closed was a prime founder of PsiTech (that 'took over' from Stargate)
Major General Albert Stubblebine was also part of the Aviary

That is all I will add for now on that Gets into some deep water from there.. but I will add that the NAZI info comes via this channel

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Pilots for 911 Truth
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...For_Truth.html

You will find Johns name on page one.

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@Zorgon

Perhaps you're right on the beam. I can't say. I need time to study the documents you've linked here before making a judgement.

Perhaps it's the same as with the TR-3B. Who knows?

After all the black budget is 1.3 trillion $ big - almost 2 times as big as the bailout



But on the funding of the Nazis I can comment:
In the early years, long before 1933, Hitler was funded by 2 rich ladies personally. And then later he became a multi-millionaire of his own because of the selling of his book "Mein Kampf".

And the Nazi party was funded from the mid-1920's till the seizure of power in 1933 by the 2 major German industrialists Thyssen and Krupp.

And they did that because they were patriots and very nationalistic, they hoped that through this new movement Germany could rise again.



What the American industrialists, like Prescott Bush did, was just bargaining with a new rising power - nothing more.
And very few like Henry Ford sympathisized with their ideology.


Never Rockefeller gave Hitler 10 trillion $ in the right hand and in the left hand a letter on which was written that he had to fulfill the NWO agenda or such stupid things.

That's esotheric - excuse me - BS.


And you cannot call American industrialists Nazis - that would mean they worship this certain ideology - and that's totally untrue!
The only one they worship is themselves - rember the Aaron Russo interview and his meeting with Rockefeller!

There're also no old nazis operating in disguise - ridiculous.
They are the new NWO guys - they give a damn on any ideology.
They're more a kind of nihilists.

So,
Stop blaming just a part of the criminal body!


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Old 10-23-2008, 03:57 AM   #8
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What a wonderful interview - his closing message has left me in tears - so very moving and hopeful. Thank you Bob, Kerry and Bill - magnificent!
Yes his closing message was of such awareness that it should broadcast through the Heavens. Enjoy your, few, precious, moments, of your little, life. When you get to the age as Bob and I have you see what folly it is Indeed to be worrying about absolutely 'Anything'. Folks we simply have Not the Luxury of time for such foolishness! Be with your loved ones and enjoy your few precious moments together. It all passes so quickly, and is but a moment, in the eye of Creation. Better to sit in the sandbox and be in Joy than to run helter skelter, parry, to and fro, looking, for some imaginary answer. Your life has been engineered, it is simply far too short for such activities. Enjoy your few moments to the Best of your ability, and when you look back from Spirit, you won't be sorry you wasted, those short seconds, being dissatisfied and unhappy with the Gift of physicality you were given!

Come what may, all your searching will not help any of us from our 'end' which comes far to quickly, no matter, what happens, on this Orb. This we are all guaranteed. We will all surely Perish from this movie we call Reality, sooner or later. Indeed we have no time for Upset or dissatisfaction or fear....

Be kind to each other my good children. Any other course of action is Sheer Folly. Live your life as well as you can, and hurt as few as possible, so when you reach an age of reflection you can look back and have a measure of pleasure and gratitude and Peace. When you relive it a second time. Pretty little pictures.. This the best advice I can give, As it was given to me by a much older and wiser sage, who in turn had it given to him ad infinitum. And so it goes my Brothers...

Blessings to us all

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Old 10-22-2008, 01:17 PM   #9
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Congrats folks, great interview as usual. Thanks a lot.

I've always had a respect for Mr. Dean, may be bacause he feels like a grandfather figure to me, since I never had a change meet mines in this lifetime.He radiates with a very positive aura and energy around him.

I'm still wondering if you guys are going to do an interview with Billy Meier, before he passes away. I know its difficult to go through that snoop FIGU thing, but who knows you may succeed...

Keep us informed guys...we love you.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:01 AM   #10
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Congrats folks, great interview as usual. Thanks a lot.

I've always had a respect for Mr. Dean, may be bacause he feels like a grandfather figure to me, since I never had a change meet mines in this lifetime.He radiates with a very positive aura and energy around him.

I'm still wondering if you guys are going to do an interview with Billy Meier, before he passes away. I know its difficult to go through that snoop FIGU thing, but who knows you may succeed...

Keep us informed guys...we love you.

I share your sentiments about Billy Meier . I enjoyed the interview with a few reservations . On Mr . Dean's interview there are a few common themes recurring in other notable interviewd people on Project Camelot that I found to say the least disturbing. For example the notion that the ET will not allow a nuclear war because the planet is too precious . I found this idea totally bonkers for the simple reason that depleted uranium weapons have been estensively used in at least 3 recent wars not counting the hundreds of the atomic experiments all over the world and the use at the end ofWW2 . And perhaps micronukes where also used in the 9/11 job . The ET have allowed over the years the use of nuclear weapons on the Earth .
The other disconcerting notion is that our genetic makeup is so precious ! AH ,Ah . Knowing humans , how vile most of them are , ready to prostitute themselves for a few bucks to the secret police I do not find anything precious in that . The wonderful artistic achivements pale into nothing when confronted with : hunger , thirst , lack of education and health , greed ,
deception , lies about our past , lies about space exploration etc, etc .
The other thing that I find most troubling is the idea of love . Love your enemy . Ah , AH . Love your ET Manipulators ? Your state secret police and the criminal judge that gave the orders so you can be " gang stalked " ? Nuts idea ! In a society where the lives of individuals are not worth even a bullet , I do understand why murder of your enemies is possible .
If you do not believe this , think about IRAQ and 1.2 million people dead .
Personally I think that the problems of this world can be resolved by reintroducing the guillotine for ,the banksters, the oil merchants , the corrupt politicians , the members of the Reserve Bank ,the armament manufacturers , the religious leaders , the economic professors and the professionals in the stock market . That's a revolutionary idea !
What do you think .
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:20 PM   #11
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The book Penetration by Ingo Swann, which as Dean mentions is now out of print, has thankfully been made available for free online reading at http://www.scribd.com/doc/426672/The...epathy-I-Swann .

Dr. Courtney Brown has written a helpful review of the book:

http://www.courtneybrown.com/reviews...netration.html

Ingo Swann is one of the more important historical figures in the U.S. government-funded efforts to investigate the phenomenon known as "remote viewing." His participation in highly classified research is now public knowledge and not disputed. Mr. Swann is also somewhat elderly as of this writing, and I can find no reason for him to lie now about what happened to him during his most bizarre interactions with elements of the U.S. intelligence community.

Penetration is Mr. Swann's most riveting book. The first 100 pages of the book is just about guaranteed to keep any reader flipping the pages as fast as the eye can read. In this book, Swann forever banishes the idea that a remote viewer's life need be dull. This is a story of how badly the government needed to know some information, and to what extent it was willing to go to get it. I suspect that most readers will be grateful that Mr. Swann finally decided to tell this most intimate history of his involvement with those in our government whose activities only rarely become visible to the common citizen.

Minimally, this is a story about remote viewing and its use by Mr. Swann to explore the idea of extraterrestrial life. On the surface, this would be interesting enough for many readers to want to hear what he has to say. But Mr. Swann's tale is not of a coolly academic nature. Rather, he tells of how in the past he interacted with some of the most deeply buried U.S. government intelligence personnel to help them understand the "ET enigma." This is not a story of academic researchers wanting to know if extraterrestrial life is possible. This is a nonfiction drama involving elite elements within the U.S. intelligence community wanting to know more about extraterrestrials whom they knew were operating on and near Earth. This is the UFO hypothesis turned fully around into a confrontation with reality that destroys more passive "what-if" scientific speculation. From Swann's perspective, it is not a question of whether or not UFOs and extraterrestrials exist, or whether or not the U.S. government knows about them. Rather it is a question of how intensely the intelligence apparatus of the government is trying to learn more about the activities of the extraterrestrials without letting the public in on the story. Mr. Swann gets caught in the middle, a middle from which he eventually escapes with the publication of this book.

This book is essentially two books in one. The first is about 100 pages long, and it details Mr. Swann's interactions with U.S. spies who study extraterrestrials. This is where the action and drama in this book resides. After this the book shifts gears to more general discussions (and speculations) about the subjects of telepathy, remote viewing, and extraterrestrial life. In all honesty, the latter parts of this book are not as interesting as the first 100 pages. Perhaps some readers will find the later pages helpful not so much because of what is said, but because of who is saying it. Nonetheless, I doubt many readers will criticize Mr. Swann for the later sections of the book given the visceral reward of the first part.

This book will not convince anyone that extraterrestrials exist. Rather, this book is for those who simply want to hear more about Mr. Swann's past. The fact that his involvement with the U.S. intelligence community is already so well documented lends credibility to his discussion in these pages. But this is not the smoking gun that will force the government to reveal all. The story in this book is too wild for the masses to embrace, and it is unlikely that the government would ever confirm what Mr. Swann writes about here, especially if it is true.

My suggestion is that readers take this book at face value, neither accepting it fully nor rejecting it as impossible. This is Mr. Swann's story, his own personal story. It may be true. On the other hand, some may conclude that it is either false or delusional. Since it is impossible for most readers to know for certain one way or the other, it makes more sense to simply accept this story as an honest statement that is as true as Mr. Swann can remember it. At least it does not hurt us to keep our minds open. Mr. Swann has contributed so much to our current understanding of the human psyche and the process of remote viewing, it seems only reasonable that people should give him the courtesy of allowing him to tell this most personal and intense story. As a society, we owe him that much at least. On the other hand, we owe him a lot more if what he writes about in Penetration is a true recollection from his past.

One side note, this book is somewhat hard to obtain since it is self-published. Interested readers may want to go to Mr. Swann's web site to find out how to obtain this book.
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Thanks for this Bill and Kerry, I'm listening to Bob's interview right now. What a beautiful soul and such great information
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Yes, thank you Bill and Kerry. Dean seems to be well aware of our true nature as beings and that is how he can take it all in stride.

The only thing I would add to what he said is that the Keepers have been using this planet as a dumping ground for wayward citizens -- dumping their spirits into meat bodies. How else would there be so many beings on this planet -- and always 10 more ready to jump in as soon as a new body appears to be forming?

This planet is nothing compared to what we are as beings. Posh! We used to make planets like this before breakfast :-) Why don't we just wake up and get the hell out of here and start living again? Okay, it's late, forgive me.

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The book Penetration by Ingo Swann, which as Dean mentions is now out of print,
We have a copy in PDF as well...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmi...Ingo_Swann.pdf

Now I will go listen to this interview... Does it come with any documentation?
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Hard not to love Bob Dean, however, a few queries. I know he is good friends with Richard Hoagland. Hoagland stated in prehaps his last PC interview that he was thank god grateful for the HAARP technology being used to protect the earth at this time , assumingly against Niburu. Geeze, I wish it was aerosolised gold particulate floating around instead of aluminum in those chemtrails, makes me feel so CHEAP!
I dunno, think I might prefer Niburu and take my chances.

He sure does love Sitchen..... not saying I agree with Arizona Wilder's testimony that she saw him shapeshift reptile stylee, but Sitchen is NOT well respected as a true scholar, and that is by the open minded and informed.
What say you, Kerry? I saw your hesitation .

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We have a copy in PDF as well...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmi...Ingo_Swann.pdf

Now I will go listen to this interview... Does it come with any documentation?
Thanks Zorgon - Very Much appreciated - The Truth shall set them free

Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them.
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Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them.
Quite true... And even the Federation of the Star Trek series ( a working one world government) has phasers and photon torpedoes on every ship

There is nothing wrong with a one world government... the only issue is WHO is running it
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This is fantastic. Bill, Kerry, thank you for helping us to become!

Information such as Bob Dean's interviews have a way of waking up those
dormant thoughts that most have put away because of fear ridicule.

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Project Camelot is one of the most worthwhile sites on the web for this kind of information and Bill & Kerry are without a doubt dedicated to disclosing it. I have sent a small cash contribution to help with offsetting the costs associated in this endeavor.

I encourage others to do the same. These good people deserve our support in every way we can provide it. I'm sending another financial contribution this week.

I cannot express fully in words how appreciative I am for the work that you and Kerry are doing and I suspect that you have much additional information that you are withholding for various reasons. I am eager for more!

Bob Dean is one of those people who have studied the massive quantity of secret information and who are saying, in direct contrast with David Wilcock, that the human race IS able to be told without massive negative social consequenses. The fact that there are so many insiders coming forward with credible experiences means that much of what they relay is true and that mainstream disclosure is not too far off.

A particular point driven home by Bob is the 7 year difference in the birth of Jesus which brings a much stronger correlation to the Grand Cycle dates & our visitation by a large planet with some consequenses.

Another important point that needs to be stressed for mass disclosure is that we should sit back and enjoy the ride rather then digging a hole in the ground.

Bill, if you could provide your take on the statement made by Bob Dean on the coming shift in consciousness which does match David Wilcock's prediction, as well as many channellers from back even in 1994, of that which is desired can be made manifest. How would you characterize what this transition would be like or how it might be experienced?

Thank you with all my heart.
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good one and thanks.

But Pro " one world goverment " ??

Blood on the streets? Just accept it?
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Another classic interview, the best so far...any chance you guy's could interview Robert Morning Sky sometime? His Terra Papers are something else.

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Very interesting. Bill and Kerry, you need to do a mind meld with this gentleman. There is more going on behind the eyes than he is telling anyone.

What's wrong with One World Government? Didn't Star Trek have one? Global Federation?

Would the common man on the street really care? As long as he has food, water and a job for "stuff" most people are quite happy. Give them the freedom they think they have, all is well. Just hope the situational comedys on TV get better. Then everyone will be happy.

Thanks again for an interesting interview. Serious about the mind meld thing. Need more input!

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What's wrong with One World Government? Didn't Star Trek have one? Global Federation?
A One World Government is just a fancy name for a global military empire. I have a problem with the approach of launching a false flag attack, killing 3000 civilians, scaring everyone into submission (e.g. phone tapping), eliminating the constitution, building torture camps overseas, killing one million Iraqi, etc.

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camelot is down again.
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