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[arcora]

We all have an internal dialogue and personal revelations. My truths are my truths and they are for me only. Selling them to others is unwise and useless.

When one begins to believe that their personal revelations are from space aliens or 'ascendant masters' and that they have been charged with revealing a message to the world people would be wise to question it. Most (if not all) channelers are deceiving themselves and others.

Does anyone here believe that everyone diagnosed with schizophrenia or psychosis are actually contactees that are being suppressed by the PTB? Are all of the homeless people walking the streets while having bizarre conversations with invisible friends actually prophets?

Where does one draw the line between the insane and the contactee? The son of Sam had conversations with dogs who eventually told him to commit mass murder. If he had posted on this forum he probably would have been hailed as a seer.

[David]

Originally Posted by arcora

We all have an internal dialogue and personal revelations. My truths are my truths and they are for me only. Selling them to others is unwise and useless.

Nobody is selling you anything. Don't like it, don't read it.

Originally Posted by arcora

When one begins to believe that their personal revelations are from space aliens or 'ascendant masters' and that they have been charged with revealing a message to the world people would be wise to question it. Most (if not all) channelers are deceiving themselves and others.

Why limit it to space aliens and ascendant masters? Heck, every church claim they speak the word of god and gather a flock to spread the word. Every government and organization must be run by loonies.

Originally Posted by arcora

Does anyone here believe that everyone diagnosed with schizophrenia or psychosis are actually contactees that are being suppressed by the PTB? Are all of the homeless people walking the streets while having bizarre conversations with invisible friends actually prophets?

Not sure how many homeless people you have had conversations with. What did they tell you?

Originally Posted by arcora

Where does one draw the line between the insane and the contactee? The son of Sam had conversations with dogs who eventually told him to commit mass murder. If he had posted on this forum he probably would have been hailed as a seer.

Your citing "The son of Sam"? He was a serial killer who stalked New York women in the late 70s. So basically you just called everyone on this board who have either had contact or seen something out of this world an insane serial killer. Thank you for clearing that up.

[arcora]

Wow David.

You really missed my point.

[David]

or did I? Hmmm.....

[arcora]

Originally Posted by David

Nobody is selling you anything. Don't like it, don't read it.

My point was that personal revelations are personal and not meant for others. When people begin to think that their personal revelations are so important that all of humankind needs to hear them, often they are either naive or sliding down the slippery slope of imbalance.


Why limit it to space aliens and ascendant masters? Heck, every church claim they speak the word of god and gather a flock to spread the word. Every government and organization must be run by loonies.

The Bible wasn't written by a bunch of self-styled channelers trying to sell books and CD's. What does any of this have to do with those that run government?


Not sure how many homeless people you have had conversations with. What did they tell you?

I never said I had conversations with them - but I have seen them. Are they all contactees? You never answered.

Your citing "The son of Sam"? He was a serial killer who stalked New York women in the late 70s. So basically you just called everyone on this board who have either had contact or seen something out of this world an insane serial killer. Thank you for clearing that up.

I don't know how this could be misconstrued the way you did. I never called anyone here anything. Son of Sam was a guy who heard voices. He believed they were real. Look where it got him.

I reiterate...

Truth withstands scrutiny.

If anyone here is so certain that they hear voices of truth, why would they be afraid to test them against alternate hypotheses?

And, by the way...Asking the voices in your head if they are for real and/or well intentioned isn't scrutiny.

[Merlin]

Hello all,

This thread is becoming like the one about Oct14th that now sits in the "off topic" section in Camelot. Constant back and forward with "how do you know Vs. I Know for sure" type argument.

I think this: both sides have valid points but none has the absolute answer. Is this not what they (PTB) want? Constant pointless bickering amongst ourselves about things we cannot prove one way or the other?

I can understand one person trying to persuade others not to blindly belive what they read and to question everything. I can also understand one who belives they have recieved an important message and want to tell people about it. Can we really discern who has truth and who does not, by reading posts on a forum.

Truth is important, absolutely, thats why one should question everything one reads. One should not just belive something because someone else said it is so, and because countless others belive it also.

Again, one must not dismiss eveything one reads because it does not fit their worldview, one must look at the information being presented, and the person presenting it, and question it if need be.

Is there a middle ground?
Can we agree to disagree but still carry on together against a mutual foe?
I don't know if we can or not.
Time, will tell, as they say.

Merlin.

[ralok_j]

Originally Posted by Merlin

Hello all,

This thread is becoming like the one about Oct14th that now sits in the "off topic" section in Camelot. Constant back and forward with "how do you know Vs. I Know for sure" type argument.

I think this: both sides have valid points but none has the absolute answer. Is this not what they (PTB) want? Constant pointless bickering amongst ourselves about things we cannot prove one way or the other?

I can understand one person trying to persuade others not to blindly belive what they read and to question everything. I can also understand one who belives they have recieved an important message and want to tell people about it. Can we really discern who has truth and who does not, by reading posts on a forum.

Truth is important, absolutely, thats why one should question everything one reads. One should not just belive something because someone else said it is so, and because countless others belive it also.

Again, one must not dismiss eveything one reads because it does not fit their worldview, one must look at the information being presented, and the person presenting it, and question it if need be.

Is there a middle ground?
Can we agree to disagree but still carry on together against a mutual foe?
I don't know if we can or not.
Time, will tell, as they say.

Merlin.

And who put you in charge? That's sarcasm by the way.

[Merlin]

Originally Posted by ralok_j

And who put you in charge? That's sarcasm by the way.

I did. Harha!

(Its just an opinonion)


Merlin.

[Chris Parson]

i wanna see pics of these glowing weather balloons that are flying around making telepathic contact with people.

[Malletzky]

You all must've heard of

divide and conquer

Right????

Well, I have the feeling someone here just try to divide US!!!

And it seem to me that many of you (won't name any) forget about what we're here (not only on this forum, but as well as on this planet) for.

Can you remember? How about enlightement???

Seek in your heart and you will find the truth. Yes, YOUR TRUTH!!
No matter what other say!

[Theresa]

Check this out, someone just sent it to me. Its footage taken in Germany that is exactly what we saw-so here you have it, folks. Is it a weather balloon? you be the judge....blessings!

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ft99NFxZPN0

[David]

I have seen this type before and it's no weather balloon.