IMPORTANT: to all on the Camelot Round Table list, and to all PayPal contributors

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I would like to help. I used to help moderate a now defunct small music forum a long time ago. Obviously, I have a job, family & so on but in my free time I guess I could help out moderating if you want. I am in the UK.

[galaxygirl]

Glad to help Bill and Kerry!

Ive sent a message so count me in!

[viking]

I'll second that .....

viking

[THEWATCHER]

Barry King, the individual we are looking after post trauma, is a whistle-blower on your round table listings. The support pledged will continue.

THE WATCHER

[Frank Samuel]

Kerry, Bill

I thank you and want to support you guys in any way I can.
Hey , relax and enjoy life no need for explanations we love you guys just the same. You two are my heroes , warriors of the path to enlightment.
If possible send PO address for checks . I travel all my life and I have to tell you there's no place like home so I thank you for your sacrifice.

[granny]

Bill

"You have been extraordinarily generous. It always moves us - whether it's a large donation - and we have had some (THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) - or a teenager from Poland or India or South Africa or Indonesia or Argentina who sends us $2."

You know $2 from the least able to contribute far exceeds whatever those in comfort can afford.

Gran

[CONDE]

Thanks Mama Firehorse, U are correct and very wise.

Back to topic, Where are the LINKS for payment ?
is this still being discussed ? anyone knows if there is a
location for paying for a suscription. ?

Interesting discussion. I must add that from the work I've seen on the project camelot site, it is amazing how Bill and Kerry absorbed all those costs out of pure desire to make a difference. This sort of unselfish gift that these two have provided should not be overlooked as mere folly, but rather a strong passion where they have put everyone on the line...life, money and reputation.

How many are prepared to make such a contribution, and offer their works for free? Few, if any. Any fair minded person knows that money is a means of exchange, and absolutely required to run any business or charitable endeavor. Further, the laborer is worthy of their hire, and obviously the level of character shines through so often when mere man is asked to separate money from his wallet. There is no doubt Bill and Kerry have proven and demonstrated they are willing to give their entire wallet, and life and reputation, to this cause.

I suggest we not waste our energy on those who will not reach into their pocket at all, but rather merely complain seeking everything for free. It is this view that has made us slaves to these wicked rulers in this world.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by christian

Interesting discussion. I must add that from the work I've seen on the project camelot site, it is amazing how Bill and Kerry absorbed all those costs out of pure desire to make a difference. This sort of unselfish gift that these two have provided should not be overlooked as mere folly, but rather a strong passion where they have put everyone on the line...life, money and reputation.

How many are prepared to make such a contribution, and offer their works for free? Few, if any. Any fair minded person knows that money is a means of exchange, and absolutely required to run any business or charitable endeavor. Further, the laborer is worthy of their hire, and obviously the level of character shines through so often when mere man is asked to separate money from his wallet. There is no doubt Bill and Kerry have proven and demonstrated they are willing to give their entire wallet, and life and reputation, to this cause.

I suggest we not waste our energy on those who will not reach into their pocket at all, but rather merely complain seeking everything for free. It is this view that has made us slaves to these wicked rulers in this world.

Fair statements. A request made a day or two ago to Bill & Kerry was a simple request. Do those with insider information or indeed whistleblowers need to contribute to the running of this site? For they too have, over the years given much to inform joe public. Time, money, intimidation, threats, harassment and physical harm have been endured, and still they step forward bravely to disclose hidden data. A response would be appreciated, just for the record. Thankyou.

THE WATCHER

TheWatcher, that is a great question. Personally, if I were running the site, I would exclude any whistleblower from any fees...absolutely. They put their money on the line each and every time they come forward with any piece of information that saves us time, money and perhaps our own lives. You are speaking about a highly special person who has the brass to put themselves out there...and we know history shows us they may likely loose everything they have worked for during their lives to make a difference. Great question...I would never charge them to come to this forum from the points you raised.

[CONDE]

Money is only a concept from our 5% material side...

The other 95% spiritual side of me, just wants to make shure this
amazing form of Avalonic convergence continues at ALL cost.

Frank Conde
www.deathisnormal.com

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Fair statements. A request made a day or two ago to Bill & Kerry was a simple request. Do those with insider information or indeed whistleblowers need to contribute to the running of this site? For they too have, over the years given much to inform joe public. Time, money, intimidation, threats, harassment and physical harm have been endured, and still they step forward bravely to disclose hidden data. A response would be appreciated, just for the record. Thankyou.

THE WATCHER

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou

[CONDE]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou

There should be a REGULAR suscripton button, a PREMIUN "eyes only" pay suscription button , there should be a button for all of the HEROES (one each),
in case I want to donate funds to them directly, oh and maybe a button with an option to pay people TO LEAVE !.

It is only stinking money...For ALL there is to Know, think about it.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou

Any response even if its sorry we are too busy to respond!!!


THE WATCHER

[fil]

No time to read all the responses, swear there weren't so many when I left the computer a few hours ago...

I just joined today, and would be seriously disappointed if this became a pay site. Like many others, I have a limited budget...

Would like to suggest a grandfather clause. Give serious Project Camelot followers a chance to join Avalon, and then start to charge new members.

If this is not feasible I'd like to encourage those who have a little to spare to go ahead and contribute. A little here, a little there, and among the thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of members, there will be enough to maintain the project.

When and if my situation changes, you can bet your sweet bippy, I'll be among the contributors.



Stay crunchy.



- fil

[THE eXchanger]

there are a lot of questions here,
that are still "pending"
lifting up a link, that has potential !!!

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[Frank Samuel]

Those of us that can could send a little more $ , I feel it is not wise to close the site to those less fortunate. I know that operation cost with the prices going up and a crumbling economy is not easy. But I am sure that with this project avalon phenomena, ask and it shall be given, knock and the door will be open. No worries mate !!! The opportunities come ah knocking !!!
Love and peace to all

[HaveBlue]

I am personally very much looking foward to this new proposed part of Avalon.
By having to pay to be part of it will hopefully sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak.
I do not intend any offense to anyone here when I say that. Every body that wants to post should of course be allowed to as long as they are respecting all other members and therefore themselves too.
However there are alot of posts that are not important or applicable to me(this post may well be one of them in some others minds too of course!) and by being in a forum that is being charged for this will limit the stuff I have to skip to reach the good stuff.
And most importantly I am, along with many others I'm sure more than happy to see to it that Camelot/Avalon remains viable and keeps going well into the future. Naturally it takes resources and money to do this. In my mind money is only another source of energy. The intent is what makes it good or bad energy. Supporting Camelot/Avalon with money can surely be sending 'good energy'.
If anyone in admin reads this please PM or email me with the details as soon as the pay per view section is up and running.
Thank you,
Kind regards,Stephen

If people do not want to give then don't.

It doesn't matter if someone gives a lot or a little IF they are not doing it from the heart then it is meaningless....

I do not use PayPal myself. I do not trust it....
I simply mail a check as I have done in the past.

[CONDE]

Wise words Mr. De Niro.
And yes, pay Pal and E-bay are the devil !

Question to Bill & Kerry: If we do pay for a subscription will we receive a lot more PMs?
50 is not near enough. Unlimited would be ideal!

Thanks for any and all answers!

[Kate]

Hi folks its me again!
Hello Bill and Kerry!!

Just been flicking through the posts and giving some thought to a possible 'middle ground solution' ....how about including these options so EVERYONE is happy...

1. paypal/visa area for people who are happy to make the standard payment

2. option for bigger/ no ceiling payment from those who have the money and want to invest in this site and contribute to the 'bigger cause'?

3. option to sign up for a 'points' system for people who cant justify a cash payment of any sorts? eg...some point/rewards can be achieved by logging in and participating in certain numbers of posts? extra rewards for helping out/moderating etc.....once a certain number of points are achieved those people can have full access to all the site?

4. A 'visitor' only option where people can view a selection of posts ( but NOT access the private forum posts/interaction with the Interview whistlblowers) . Only a certain amount of visits per day....and if curious visitors are keen enough to know more and get involved, there is the 'paid members zone' with full access to everything!!

If this would be possible to implement, i believe this could cover ALL the previous issues discussed...

what do ya think? could this be a feasable solution?

[CONDE]

Originally Posted by firehorse10

Hi folks its me again!
Hello Bill and Kerry!!

Just been flicking through the posts and giving some thought to a possible 'middle ground solution' ....how about including these options so EVERYONE is happy...

1. paypal/visa area for people who are happy to make the standard payment

2. option for bigger/ no ceiling payment from those who have the money and want to invest in this site and contribute to the 'bigger cause'?

3. option to sign up for a 'points' system for people who cant justify a cash payment of any sorts? eg...some point/rewards can be achieved by logging in and participating in certain numbers of posts? extra rewards for helping out/moderating etc.....once a certain number of points are achieved those people can have full access to all the site?

4. A 'visitor' only option where people can view a selection of posts ( but NOT access the private forum posts/interaction with the Interview whistlblowers) . Only a certain amount of visits per day....and if curious visitors are keen enough to know more and get involved, there is the 'paid members zone' with full access to everything!!

If this would be possible to implement, i believe this could cover ALL the previous issues discussed...

what do ya think? could this be a feasable solution?

BRILLIANT !!!

I say yes yo ALL. .........bt add ...Pay Pal / Visa/ MC

Frank Conde.

[odiseo]

If you need a translator i can help you with Spanish if there something to be made let me know .

[Merlin]

Hi folks.

You must realise that not everyone has a credit card!
Please make sure there is a provision for those of us who have no such facilities.

Thanks,

Merlin.