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Old 10-08-2008, 08:07 AM   #1
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Zorgon is correct. Solid ice sits on? -yes sea water. It is heavier than fresh water and sea water doesn't freeze. Admiral Byrd had his experience at the south pole not the North and spoke of land with valleys and greenery. Not a hole.
There are shapes such as your north pole pic in GE over my daughters school less than a kilometre away from my house which is very clear. I have been to her school many times and they are hiding nothing. GE pics are taken within the last 2-3 years and are not in real time. The PTB does however have the ability to view in real time.
This post is for those that wonder about this hollow earth thing,not those who have already made their minds up and do not wish to be bothered with facts.
There's the mass to consider,the iron core and all sorts of other technical stuff. The earth is a giant electric motor,hence why we have magnetic poles and weather with lightning, the van allen belts, why Tessla's 8cycles per second free energy works and lots of other technical stuff.
Phil Schneiders vid is interesting however. He says he worked in DUMBS (Deep Underground Military Bases)(let's get it right) all over the USA. More than 130. Claims to have had a shootout with aliens living underground. He died in very suspect circumstances-ruled suicide after giving more than 30 lectures exposing the black projects he worked on.
Check that out - it has far more cred than the hollow earth theory.
Can I change it to hollow head theory
You have great researching skills Kathy- please don't waste them on this.
Many adventurers go to both poles including my fellow NZers whose books I have read. The authorities are concerned about the saftey of such people-read 'we don't want to foot the bill for your rescue so put money up front or we won't approve'. And the rescue personell risk their own lives when the adventurer screws up or can't hack it. Fair enough too I say. It is very expensive to mount a rescue to either pole. There is no food there or anything but snow and rocks and ice and extreme cold. Humans have no business going there,nor peaking Everest or K2 or the middle of a desert. Steve Fosset planned and paid for his adventures. Other people go caving.
There are huge cave systems known and unknown so yes, there are pockets of 'hollow earth' all over the planet.
Secret Nazi bases at the South pole are being talked about. There could be something in it!
Aliens and ships from other stars and dimensions I say yes very definately, just not that we live on a hollow sphere.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:12 AM   #2
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I am aware of the Hollow Earth stuff although I am afraid I have not fully researched it and I should because I find it fascinating.

Are there any pictures floating around purportedly taken from "inside the earth"?

or rumors of people who have traveled inside etc

thanks in advance for any answers

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Old 10-08-2008, 08:24 AM   #3
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Are there any pictures floating around purportedly taken from "inside the earth"?
Of course not.

At least with UFO's there is photographic evidence, same with anomalies on the moon and mars.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:30 AM   #4
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Of course not.

At least with UFO's there is photographic evidence, same with anomalies on the moon and mars.
ok ok

I have fully absorbed your notion that there is no hollow earth evidence etc

I am more interested in the evidence FOR this, so my query remains

thanks tho
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:36 AM   #5
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I never said there was no hollow earth, let me make that clear.

I do not know about that theory and am not going to try and explain it away.

Like you, I'd like some evidence to support the theory though.

The problem is for me that the images supplied which insinuate a possible link to a hollow earth theory in my opinion are all irrelevant and very easily explained.

But like I said, I wasn't disputing the hollow earth theory, I was merely explaining the images for what they actually are.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:36 AM   #6
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Heretic,
No pics that I know of but the foremost researcher is Jan Lamprecht.
Some great interviews with him on www.youtube.com/theduderinok.
There's also a couple of Ozzie's who wrote "The land of no horizon"
Hollow Earth theory is massive and has been around for ages.
A great story somewhere on Rense as well about the NSA taking over an expedition in Antarctica.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:33 AM   #7
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Solid ice sits on? -yes sea water. It is heavier than fresh water and sea water doesn't freeze.
Actually thats incorrect. The polar ice is not frozen fresh water with liquid sea water below.

Sea water WILL freeze if it is cold enough at the surface, it won't freeze at 0 degrees like freshwater, but will freeze at many degrees below zero - which it is at the poles.

The reason the ice cap has liquid water underneath is because once you go further below the surface the water is warmer and not cold enough to freeze - remember the severely sub zero temperatures are air temperatures at the surface and the water itself provides an insulation against those temperatures when you start going down. plus you have to factor in warm ocean currents. But of course the surface of the sea, in contact with frigid air, will freeze.

Think of it this way, you get a very cold snap and the local lake freezes over, does it ever freeze all the way to the bottom? No. Even freshwater will not freeze absolutely solid.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:07 PM   #8
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Actually thats incorrect. The polar ice is not frozen fresh water with liquid sea water below.

Sea water WILL freeze if it is cold enough at the surface, it won't freeze at 0 degrees like freshwater, but will freeze at many degrees below zero - which it is at the poles.

The reason the ice cap has liquid water underneath is because once you go further below the surface the water is warmer and not cold enough to freeze - remember the severely sub zero temperatures are air temperatures at the surface and the water itself provides an insulation against those temperatures when you start going down. plus you have to factor in warm ocean currents. But of course the surface of the sea, in contact with frigid air, will freeze.

Think of it this way, you get a very cold snap and the local lake freezes over, does it ever freeze all the way to the bottom? No. Even freshwater will not freeze absolutely solid.
Salty water freezes below 0°C (32°F): this is why salt is used to melt the snow or ice on a road pavement. The saltier the brine, the lower its freezing point. This is also why salt traditionally was added to the water–ice mixture used to make ice cream.

Ocean water with a typical salinity of 35 parts per thousand freezes only at −1.8°C (28.9°F). So if there were no halocline in the polar oceans, then the cooled top ocean layer, being denser, would sink into the deep ocean, in the same way as thunderstorm clouds rise in the atmosphere, and the entire ocean column would have to cool to −1.8°C before its surface could freeze.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:59 PM   #9
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Salty water freezes below 0°C (32°F): this is why salt is used to melt the snow or ice on a road pavement. The saltier the brine, the lower its freezing point. This is also why salt traditionally was added to the water–ice mixture used to make ice cream.

Ocean water with a typical salinity of 35 parts per thousand freezes only at −1.8°C (28.9°F). So if there were no halocline in the polar oceans, then the cooled top ocean layer, being denser, would sink into the deep ocean, in the same way as thunderstorm clouds rise in the atmosphere, and the entire ocean column would have to cool to −1.8°C before its surface could freeze.
Sea water won't freeze at -1.8 though because it isn't still water. It needs to be very very cold for a prolonged time for the sea surface to freeze.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:25 PM   #10
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Pegasus,

I see you live in Laurentides.
I live in Montreal.

There was a show once with Denis Levesque and he talked about one of the secrets that John F. Kennedy told to Marylin Monroe which talked about Extraterrestrials. Denis Levesque was so fast to dismiss that theory which is highly plausible afterall. And they even brought a Skeptic to the show to dismiss all this kind of information concerning Extraterrestrials.

Unfortunately, the only people who will get influenced by those sayings are the sheep who can't see anything yet. Clearly, Denis Levesque is one of them.


Also, have you read "The Hollow Earth" experienced by the Admiral Byrd?
I'm thinking about reading it.
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:04 PM   #11
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Sea water won't freeze at -1.8 though because it isn't still water. It needs to be very very cold for a prolonged time for the sea surface to freeze.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:35 PM   #12
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I was under the impression that sea water won't freeze at -1.8 because, a) the salt content, and b) water that moves with waves is obviously going to need to be colder than that to freeze.

Sorry if thats a) wrong, and b) laughable.
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