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Also Rocky, I see you're in San Diego...I'm about thirty miles north of you. Your comment about the Grid makes me wonder if you've ever looked closely at the hills. There are traces of very ancient habitation that I can't find any mention of in any books or online. Stretched across Escondido and San Marcos there's a complex of standing stones that is larger than any I know of in North America, but people driving past every day have never seen it. Also, point #17 on the World Grid is just a few hundred miles southeast of us, in Baja. Maybe it's all the earthquake faults, but southern California is just about the most intensely energized piece of ground I've ever been. |
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Well around 10,000 years ago the water level was 160 feet lower off our coast. There was a huge Indian Nation centered in Rosorito underwater escavation is going on now uncovering artifacts. Fossils exist showing this area used to be a rain forest, monkeys and many other animals that are no longer wild in the area roamed free. The weather is the best in the world, so I would imagine that this has been a popular area to live since the beginning of man... I'll pull up google to look at the formations... |
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I have just spent some time reading the thread about so called Indigo Children. To be honest I think that alot of the posts from people that claim to be Indigo Children is just self indulgent nonsense. Can sombody please reply to this post explaining what exactly qualifies a person to be classed as an Indigo Child. Just because because you want/believe yourself to be somthing does not make it so. I do not indend any malice in this post, we have to be real here, this is an important forum about important things, Thank You.
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An indigo is to be considered the next stage of human evolution, a processes of breeding into a higher spirituality where terms like "law" "judgment" "race" "stereotype" "family" "individuality" does not exist and words like "collective" "balance" "equality" is the norm and not just political terms. The most accurate depiction of the mentality within an indigo collective that I've seen is from the movie K-PAX. Indigos are highly intelligent compared to most but not in terms of book smarts but as in awareness. They are able to see and feel what most cannot and are especially attuned to spiritual resonance and feeling. They can sense your intentions and your emotional status even before you do. Within a collective of indigos each are aware of their place and do not need social conditioning to conform them. And even times they get "upset" when others are not aware of their place. The indigo phenomenon did not begin in full swing until very late in the 70's and by 27 the indigo starts to loose their qualities. In very rare cases do they maintain that sense of purpose and awareness. Some are allergic to their mother's milk and most are sickly children at an early age. Most are classified with ADHD or other social disorders because they are in fact system busters, learn at an accelerated pace and bore easily. As within social clicks there are many different types of indigo and just within the last few years I've met those that are entirely opposite from what we would perceive to be indigo. These are the manipulators, the controllers, the ones the seek to test the limits and boundaries of who they come across. The "dark" side of the indigo spectrum. Both the "light and dark" indigo will fight openly and for no apparent reason. I have witnessed a humanitarian indigo child strike the "darker" indigo without warning and then proceed to play together as if nothing happened. This I assume was understood as a lesson that needed to be learned and equally accepted. But as I stated earlier they do not operate on terms of light and dark. Everything is based on balance and need. Now that more people are becoming aware of their spiritual selves and seek a positive outlook on human existence there will be more of these to bring about balance. It is easy for one to look in the mirror and see ice blue eyes staring back at them and automatically think "i'm an indigo" or have some spiritual movement and claim "i am indigo" or have some delusion of higher purpose and think "i am indigo" but in reality it becomes not a matter of specific physical traits or emotional harmony with ones self but in the manner in which you are linked to everyone and everything around you. Those that are indigo do not need to claim they are or justify their existence or egos by shouting out their place in the universe, they just are and will recognize that always. I only share with you my status because I am in fact here for a purpose, I know my place and require those that are of like kind in order to help them achieve that greater awareness. Those that are of later generation are here for one reason, to help usher in the new wave of consciousness that is now blooming with increasing velocity across our planet. But then again you already know that. I find it frightfully sad for people to claim that are a part of something they know nothing about and to soil this great awakening with delusions and some far off sense of purpose. Become spiritually enlightened, seek a higher sense of purpose and promote balance and wellness and peace throughout those you come in contact with. But do it for the sake of, not because you wish to impress or stroke your ego and to feel apart of something greater than you. Change is here but not for the reasons you think or for the purpose you may have dreamed of. Speak to an indigo and ask them why they are here, they will reply with "To fix you" Think about this the next time you look in the mirror, the person staring back at you may realize that your perception of reality is skewed. When the fight is won and the dust settles we may very well see ourselves in a world without traffic lights, without law and government, without police, where people survive not because of their superiority but because of their empathy and awareness of everything around them. Not in any case a magical wonderland but one of acceptance of self where knowledge and wisdom are king and shared openly amongst all. Collective Consciousness is the foundation in which this new world will be created and where individuality is a thing of the past. And in that time we will truly be, enlightened beings. |
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You sound like you have been studying Indigos for a while, thank you for joining this conversation to give clarity to all who are curious. To have questions on subjects never studied, and suddenly know answers like you had been learning about it for years... To experience it is hard to explain to others, it just is... |
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My late twenties was also a time where I just "let it go". Interesting. I picked it back up again around 31 and have been back on the path since except for a period of about 6 months where I got very caught up in politics and fear. I feel that was part of my journey, though, and helped realize in the end there is nothing to fear. I came out of that more whole than ever.
I also don't think the indigo label is something that feeds the ego necessarily- I'm sure it can for those who aren't on a path of personal development but those same people will either grow or lose what they have. I appreciate this thread for other reasons- mainly that it connects a group of people who have struggled a great deal in life and especially as a child being so different. I don't see it as being any different than any other "support" thread for a group of people who have gone through a difficult time and are trying to better themselves. Connecting with others who have been through similar ordeals is very powerful when you've been ostracized on so many levels in your life. It's like anyone who knows all the messed up things going on and trying to tell others and they don't believe you, laugh at you, roll their eyes...that's the lifestory from early childhood of many indigos. Kwim? So guys...what was your first "unusual" experience you can recall? I remember as a small child- I don't know the exact age but it was before my brother was born and I was 4 then so before then- and this went on FOREVER was what I would see at night. I'd lay in my bed and the whole room would start filling with swirling dots of energy. Different colors, a lot of red. They would move in sync and form patterns briefly then disperse again. They were saying things in my head but I can't for the life of me remember what that was. I remember being scared sometimes (when they moved really fast) but usually not at all. I never called my parents because I enjoyed watching them and didn't want them to go away even if they were a bit freaky at times. I knew that after my parents cut off my light and went to bed that they would come. They were not like lights, though. They looked "solid". Almost like little bb's you'd use in a pellet gun. And the colors were dark, didn't exactly "glow" but could be easily seen. Hard to explain. |
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Dear Merlin, I want to answer you in the most diplomatic way possible here, because I think I understand why you ask the question. My daughter, who works with families and children, does not believe any of this "indigo" nonsense. She says they're all just mouthy undisciplined brats. OK. That's one view. Google indigo children or starseeds. There are websites where you can answer a questionnaire that lists indigo or starseed traits. By that, you can determine whether you fit into the group. Or, by the questions you will see the kinds of characteristics that these people generally have. Many of us are part of that group without ever realizing we are because nobody ever paid attention to us as children. We had invisible friends and were told they weren't real. We saw things and were invalidated about that; we were told that we didn't see them. We heard things but were told we didn't hear them. We had conversations with animals and were told it was just our imagination. In that context you never learn how to ask the right questions, because nobody will help you find the answers. Nobody believes you. When you wake up floating on the ceiling and try to tell somebody about that and everyone around you doesn't believe you, you never learn that you just had an out of body experience, and it's a completely natural thing. You become shy and afraid to speak of experience. It's just like people who have experienced ET abductions. Nobody believed them for a long time. Our culture has done a good job of squelching all those traits or experiences that tell us that we are more than physical beings. Our very rational left-brained culture has long denied the non-physical parts of our Self. These indigos are coming along, too many of them having these kinds of experiences to ignore. Schools don't know what to do with them, parents don't know what to do with them. Look at the list of traits. Many of them are psychic. Many remember previous lives. And very many of them are being invalidated by the people they need support from. Many of them commit suicide. It's like this ... if you say you have a green thumb because you KNOW you can grow plants well and everyone tells you you're just making that up, how do you feel about that? Some people have green thumbs, they really do, they're really terrific with plants. Some truly have artistic talent but can't keep a plant alive, not even a cactus. Some have a god-given natural engineering ability but no artistic talent or interest in plants. Some are just naturally good at math but can't ... you get the idea. Everyone has a talent, an inborn, god-given, it-came-in-with-you-and-nobody-knows-why, natural skill or ability that makes them special, whether they know it or not. You've got something too. It would never occur to me to contradict you about that or accuse you of just trying to feel special by saying you can do something in particular. If you say you are a good carpenter, then you probably are. All this indigo stuff is no different. These kids have specific abilities or sensitivities, like the old "6th sense" or ESP. But the point is, a LOT of them do, and for many, this is not being squelched the way it used to be. Many of these children are being validated, therefore their skills will have a chance to blossom. The ones that are denied, or invalidated, are very unhappy people, and as I said, many will commit suicide. I hope this helps. Last edited by doodah; 09-13-2008 at 04:40 AM. |
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Hello Doodah, Thank you for the reply. Firstly I want to say that I do not belive that Indigo children do not exist, just that I think alot of people class themselves as Indigo just because they like the sound of it. I think alot of "new age" mothers want their kids to be Indigo, and so say they are Indigo. I am 40 years old and have seen alot of my friend and relatives have kids who I think are very special. I get a certain feeling from these kids, hard to describe. Don't get this from all kids just some. Its like I see something in them that is the same in them all, a specialness, a difference, a good difference. The moment I see these kids I see it in them, I feel it in them, I find it hard to describe but its definitly there, no doubt. I have always considered myself to be slightly different to other people around me. Its been like this as far back as I can remember. For example, when I was a child of around 7 or 8, when I was in bed at night I would make a certain shape with my body and try and radiate goodness from myself out into the world, I would close my eyes and concentrate on this. I did this instinctivly, without knowing why, just that I wanted to do it. nobody told me to do this, I just wanted to do it. Does that make me Indigo? Indigo is just a word which is used to explain more spiritualy orientated souls coming through at this time of need. To get back to my original post about this, It just seems to me that "Indigo" is now like the latest fashion, we can post some enlightened sounding words and make out that we are Indigo. To me Alot of it is like I said, self indulgent Cr*p, This is what I feel about alot of what I read about this subject and I can't apologise for that, it's what I feel. I honestly do not want to offend or upset anyone but this is my opinion. Thank you, Love and Light, Merlin. |
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Merlin, that could be. I guess I'm not in the outside world enough to pay attention to the fads, kwim? I do know that I constantly see children who are clearly indigo, crystal, what have you and it's obvious their parents don't have a clue. I can feel the solitude and craving for understanding radiating from these children as their parents are obviously ignoring them and sometimes even somewhat resentful of them. It breaks my heart. I send them love and encouragement when I see them. They notice.
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Merlin,
I am an artist. I am a painter, sculptor, illustrator. Here's what my nephew says about me: "Well, she's building a fairy habitat in her yard because she calls herself an ARTIST, what crap." What can I say? I just have to laugh, his perception so misses the point about everything -- fairies, fairy habitats, artists, me, himself, the world, the universe. Yes, there may be a bandwagon effect going on with the indigos. Peace. Last edited by doodah; 09-14-2008 at 08:48 PM. |
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I'm a indigo , a child's view of life is very clear so is hard to fit in, our hearts are fill with compassion but we cannot trust the people around us. I have taught religious classes at age 14 . Review thesis from theologocal students at the theological seminary where I was a assistant to a theological professor. The problem is that once people discover that you can help them in the spiritual journey you get bombarded , is hard to talk to people when you could read minds, see the aura of people spirits, at times even communicate with deceased family members of people I will meet. Needless to say I try to run from myself and from my destiny with no where to hide.
My job now is as an adviser of engineering projects at the place where I work, I have never taken one single engineering class in my life. I'm back from a self imposed exile count on me , the funny thing is that I am turning on engineers to theories not found in the University books that they have study. My scientific mind wants proof , they said. Is fun to provide altenate views and help people see a different side of the elephant.
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I am all the characteristics of an indigo. here>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children
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I too am an Indigo. (I feel as if I am in AA).
But, there is freedom here, and people don't judge. My son (Josh) is also an Indigo, and my daughter (Rachel) is a crystal. We have constant swirling energies in our house. Josh has a dry, cynical humor that has become his shield in this life (17 times as knight). And Rachel, well, she sees fairies, angels, ghosts, hatches dragons in her bedroom, reads people's minds, is very intelligent. We are blessed to have found a Western medicine trained Peditrician that is very ascended. He has been treating both of my children for many years both physically (colds, etc.) and with Reiki, Polarity Therapy and Crano Sacral. Needless to say, he is an Indigo that has vibrationally shifted upwards. I could go on, but children create laundry, etc. Thanks for letting me talk about this, not many people understand. Nancy |
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I was born in 1985. I'll be 23 in a week.
![]() I see things before they happen and know things without being told. I can feel spiritual presence and am working on discerning their intent. Sometimes I hear answers to my questions so loudly they echo in my head. Other times its hard to believe anyone at all is listening. ![]() I am an only child of a single mother. I was raised in daycare since 6 weeks old which I believe hindered a lot of my spiritual growth. I was not diagnosed with any behavioral issues - partly because my single mother just didn't stand for it. Since a very young age I had been in 'special' classes, where we just colored pictures I now recognize as sacred geometry. i tested at college level starting in elementary school. When I got to high school I began losing my patience for standardized testing. I failed classes because I refused to prove what I knew on pieces of paper. The idea insulted my sense of learning. I sought and pointed out lies in textbooks which got me sent to the principal. ![]() I dropped out of high school my senior year and never looked back. ![]() My partner is 37. Until I begged her to just grow her natural hair out, you'd have sworn she was 25. She has the mannerisms and look of a little girl who's just discovered something wonderful about the world. She was an outcast at school in the most literal sense of the word. Different. Ostracized. Tormented. Called a freak. She grew up in small-town Texas with her early-Madonna style clothes and pitch black dyed hair. You do the math.She worked for corporate America in NY for 15 years. The given sins involved nearly killed her. She was wrenched from that life with one selfless decision that isolated her from everything and open her eyes to the real world around her. ![]() She is an Aquarian and an empath, a combination that has made her an unknowing target for psychic vampires and other energy leeches. At every point in her life, in one way or another, there has been a person who has fed off her considerably bright energy. She's working on learning to put up a personal shield, not made of steel - more like plexi-glass. She has almost no natural auric defenses.When we met it was the recognition of kindred forces moving inside us. We unconsciously gave each other permission to just [I]be[I]. ![]() We are searching for a safe place to weather the storms, whatever form they take. We send light and love to the planet. ![]() We send light and love to our brothers and sisters - all of them. We are looking eagerly forward to the time when all life lives in harmony. For now, we're looking to join an intentional community. If you've got one, let us know! We're here! ![]() So hello fellow Indigos. Good to see you again!
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I am indigo.
And a starseed. And a wayshower. An angel. A demon. And a mother of two "Rainbow" children. And about 1002 other labels that only serve to divide us. As different as we've all felt during our lives? Everyone on this rock has felt the same way. Everyone feels alone in their "uniqueness" at some point or another. And that's the biggest lie of all... We aren't alone, or different because we are all made up of the exact same thing. 99.999% space. We (those of us who pay attention to such things) just happen to realize this, that's all. LOVELOVELOVE |
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that explains the winds I hears...
blowing right between my ears... |
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Yees, nice to be amongst other Indigos
![]() I love u all!!! I wonder though whether the children of Indigos would be CrystalChildren or Indigoes? I am pregnant now and the FUTURECHILD was concieved on the day of the SOlar EcLipSe of 1st August. I wonder, I wonder...What does it mean???
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Hi,
I'm not sure if i'm an indigo child, my friend ( who is one for sure but a different kind ) keeps telling me that i'm one and insist on the fact that i know it but i won't realise it. When i read this post i feel like i understand what you all say, but i'm kinda scared to think that everything i experienced when i was young was real and i can really see, hear and do all those things. Excuse my bad english, i'm french and still learning proper english. i can't believe i'm saying all this but i feel at ease in this post... |
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I do not consider myself special but here are the names I get call every day at work, freak, genius, looney toon, strange, and old foggie who looks and acts like a kid. You name it , why do I attract such aggresion. Those that know me would call me for advice on anything and everything out of the norm. Is a curse but hey join the club of freaks is fun, and no my friend I am humble, quiet and would think twice before uttering a sentence.
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I was reading alot of your posts and found it quite interesting, i really do question the validity of everything (because thats how i evolve...) but i must tell you all what i have been through in my days.
I live in quite a small railroad town in Canada, i have always been close to the woods and used to walk around using my imagination for so much. It all started even before i lived out in the woods, i was about 3 years old and was was AWAKE sitting on my bed and felt something grab my leg. I felt a hand or what i imagined to be one but i seen NOTHING. I kind of panicked (as much as a 3 year old can) and grabbed the "thing". I actually got ahold of the damn thing and tryed to push it and amazingly it kind of did fold under my force. So im trying to push this arm that has a grip on me (pushing away) and i feel this force of 10 men push and grab my leg, later when i was older i went on one of those "spinning wheels" at a carnival and felt the gravity effect and sure enough i thought to myself "holy crap! this so reminds me of that force!) so im trying to push this thing and its just POWERFUL before i knew it the thing had grabbed me pulled me forward slamming me into the wall and giving me a lump. It scared the **** out of me because frankly the thing "tryed" to pull me off the bed vertical, so where my feet hung off the bed it tryed to pull me to what i thought "under the bed" ,so kid like . For 10years i never held my feet off the bed ![]() That was my first ever "paranormal experince" as when i grew up i have seen dozzens of beings all ranging from size and shape. I lived in one house that was SOOOOO active it made people actually sick from fear. I lived in a house for 2 years (88 king of ALL things) that was just ridiculous... If you did not believe in paranormal activity i would make the person come spend a few days with me and let me tell ya most were skeptical until they heard people walking down my stairs, haha that is a WONDERFUL story that happend at least 3 times with people, on my own dozens! It goes like this, at ANY random moment day or night you would be sitting in my room (in the basement) and would hear foot steps coming down the stairs, LOUD and clear as day. They walked really slowly and it was hilarious to see peoples faces when the thing was almost at the bottom lol. You could hear the last step on the pavement floor and leme say it sounded quite cold. I remember just running out with my little ukulele to hit the damn thing lol and as always nothing to be seen. It was intersting to have it happen with many people because to me it always felt like i was being shown that "yes weird stuff can happen" and it happend around so many people it made people really believe in what i had to say (this can be DANGEROUS) and i being who i am and what i have seen realize sadly alot of love/light recruits are falling for this... If you really search within you will see and of course i only say this because i feel for ALL humanity and will NOT let people be taken in by a sore promise or total peace (which is an noble thought) but i digress! (don't we all?? ha!) I could write a book about this stuff because honestly the experince is just to much. I seen an giant ORB that was the most beautiful thing you could imagine and get this i had a friend with me who witnessed it to - it was very very powerful for him to see that. It fell into my window and danced for us (NO LIE!) and i was in shock... it started to split into two then threes and dance and morph, the colours were all radiant and it had no reflection nor did it travel like the BASIC laws of light but in fact this ORB had no "light" but "mass" which to this day still makes me wonder. I actually seen the thing twice, once with my friend and once alone. The time i was alone it was quite interesting as i was in mid sleep and just woke up (nothing called me, ermm to my memory) and i had my back toward the window, so i spun around in a daze and looked up and lo and behold it was back but this time around i was "to sleepy" and for some reason just didnt care lol. It wasnt a dream (i can tell the difference) but this time around it didnt scare me... didnt make me feel anything. I looked at the thing and just gave a thin smile then rolled back over (turning my back to it which i felt quite proud of) and went back to sleep. I had no reason to fear it this time and how long it stayed around or what it did is not known. That was so magical to see!! ohh s*** i just rememberd that time i seen a MIB (who the hell really knows what they are???) man that was something...... but ill leave that for another post ![]() Peace&War for you all (duality is humanity) edit** and btw i was born on June 21st 1986 at 7:02 am. My mother was not due until July 17 i believe and she went into labour at EXACTLY midnight which to me is quite New Age, i have told myself many time to protect that essence inside just because my birthdate and family history can in fact get me on someone elses agenda. Be it for good or bad i have a problem with people using my ideas against or for something, mostly because i feel people need to take a step back and work on reality before they go jumping into my world. If it be yours then let us help humanity like i wish to. And btw i have rarely if never used the term indigo and problay wont just for the sake of me, i am John not indigo... but then again this could be what some would call a "real" indigo but thats just opinion .
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Yes i have experinced that, sometimes after periods of activity and others just random. I have a few personal theories but thats just me. 1. Pure and simple illusion 2. Trees moving or changes in light 3. Moving couchs can create new light pallets/shadows 4. Your eyelashes can decieve you (you heard me right haha!) 5. Hallucination caused by stress or bad diet 6. A genuine experince of something unknown My advice would be to simply take it like a grain of salt and to really look at it with logistics. When something big happens you WILL know it. |
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And yes i can read peoples minds (in a sense) just a few days ago i was sleeping and was told in my dreams to "Wake up becuase your mother is coming home" and sure enough she walked in the door, it actually made me step back and say "woooow..." i have had this experince before but this time i nailed it so to speak.
I have question for anyone on here, has anyone on here ever seen giant tall "men" in black suits? not a MIB to my knowledge but my mother a few weeks ago was walking to work and she seen 2 men who were about 7 feet tall. She said to herself "wow those men are big" but honestly never caught on at the moment. So she is walking and realizes these things are in fact following her. She told me they were hidding in the "shadows" and rarely if ever walked under the few "lit street lights" it was 3:30 in the morning and she was walking in the "semi dark" to get to work. She realized what was going on and looked back, to what she tells me she said they had black suits on but here is a little tid bit of description, she told me they had pants on that quite did not fit them, she said she could see ankles and flesh (almost like all cloths were to small now that i come to think about it) she looked at these things and started to run as fast as she could, my mother actually hurt her ankle running away from those things. After she ran down the street she looked forward and to her amazement they were ahead of her at the end of the street standing, she ran as fast as she could ALL the way to work. When she told me she was 100% serious. Thought id share that story with ya all!
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