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Old 09-27-2008, 09:35 PM   #1
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I am not a contactee, nor am I particularly psychic, but I have been hiding my light under a bushel basket all my life, choosing my words and biting my tongue. I've wondered what I'm doing here and why I am alone in my knowing. I am deeply grateful for this forum and for DAvid Wilcock who has also explained so much. I am Canadian and as I watched Miriam, I was thinking that I know her. Perhaps I have seen her somewhere, but I definitely know that she is sincere, that her message is absolutely true and that she is living up to a huge responsibility. Miriam's words thrilled me, because I know now that I have made my life choices for a good reason. I cried through pretty much all of the second half. Afterward, I fell into a deep sleep (in the afternoon) and today my meditation was brilliant. Something is different. I am not alone.
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:35 AM   #2
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i am not a contactee, nor am i particularly psychic, but i have been hiding my light under a bushel basket all my life, choosing my words and biting my tongue. I've wondered what i'm doing here and why i am alone in my knowing. I am deeply grateful for this forum and for david wilcock who has also explained so much. I am canadian and as i watched miriam, i was thinking that i know her. Perhaps i have seen her somewhere, but i definitely know that she is sincere, that her message is absolutely true and that she is living up to a huge responsibility. Miriam's words thrilled me, because i know now that i have made my life choices for a good reason. I cried through pretty much all of the second half. Afterward, i fell into a deep sleep (in the afternoon) and today my meditation was brilliant. Something is different. I am not alone.
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:55 AM   #3
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MartyMcFailure wrote: "Ben fulford was on rense 24 september and said he thinks the bit about reptilians vs nnordics.. good aliens vs bad is a distraction and disinfo.."

Are these Vogue model-like beings (six-four, beautiful beautiful blue eyes, pure white skin, blond hair, hard body, etc.) playing god? Did they actually close the chapters of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd worlds? How do I get the passing grade? What if I were fat, short, and one of the brown people?


The overtone is one of white supremacist in the show.
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:12 AM   #4
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shouldnt we be a little skeptical? (a little humour, no offense)




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Old 09-28-2008, 06:24 AM   #5
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:32 PM   #6
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Ok,I m little bit conCERN here )

I simply can not believe that our desire for peace and love practice has been taken advantage of once again ...
basically most of my concerns are attached for Camelots announcement that this
interview is one of the most important so far. I did have some correspondence with Miriam few months ago and I m VERY WELL AWARE that she is either into money or she is seriously mentally ill. (this is MY conclusion and can be explained on request..if someone thinks that is word mentally ill to heavy)

I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,..

C'MON people wake up !!
Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??

and quote; "... my father came from Yugoslavia.....I did not research his familly tree but if someone could,.. he WILL FIND many interesting things..."
what kind of prop is this??
either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."

I dont have good forum signature but I can say this:

in the troubled times I dont have to eat &^%* to survive.

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Old 09-28-2008, 02:45 PM   #7
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googleboy wrote:

"Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??"

"either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."


Both are very good points. Wih the resource Camelot have, someone needs to do some background check on her father and conduct some cross reference to see if her story is consistent.

The earth is our home. Do we have the right to visit the underground -in peace- to see what is going on? Will we find our missing children there? Will we find experimentations or their 'food source' there? In peace, don't we have the right to visit that corner of the world? What agenda does she have in claiming the underground is a restricted zone?
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:18 PM   #8
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googleboy wrote:

"Do you really think that Russian psy ops approach you and after yours NO they left you in peace ??"

"either you DID research or you DID NOT,how come that you DID NOT but still have an : he WILL FIND many interesting things..."


Both are very good points. Wih the resource Camelot have, someone needs to do some background check on her father and conduct some cross reference to see if her story is consistent.

The earth is our home. Do we have the right to visit the underground -in peace- to see what is going on? Will we find our missing children there? Will we find experimentations or their 'food source' there? In peace, don't we have the right to visit that corner of the world? What agenda does she have in claiming the underground is a restricted zone?
the Camelot doesnt SELL anything so I dont think that they have some
significant resources, but the quick jump to the Belgrade library can resolve Miriams issue. note that Yugoslavia dont exist almost 10 years now, so most of the people really originated from that part of Europe uses name of the country BORN after succession (Bosnia,Serbia,Croatia...), not a Yugoslavia by word...



....and..... bare in mind that THIS world is NOT only OURS.


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Old 09-28-2008, 03:39 PM   #9
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#2

It's not a dream of us to get here,
To ornament a losing life in lines;
that cannot come nearer to an idyllic heaven,
To live our invisible poetry eon;
For thy Hopi Blue Star have already forbidden

In dream I sat at a melody with its stony shore
Against rampage wind that breezes faces aboard
Is a moment WE all look up in vain at awe
There will be filling the hollow of hands
Are its scourge blood and abandoning sand

If so
Let time and space scattered falling fast and thin
To the most cordial heart that shut off all destruction
At this exceptional Earth's deepest resort
A sanctuary lay high only in thought
Yes, our tear come with lament, but fear will never happen
That is a determination written even before the Hopi legend

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:33 PM   #10
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One more note regarding her "bloodline":
Miriam Delicado must be her pseudonim, because MIRIAM or DELICADO absulutely doesn't sound like they are anywhere near (ex) Yugoslavia (Father) or Germany (Mother). Maybe something like Mirjana Delic could do the trick, but I am asking HER to explain why she is so "honestly concerned about humanity" but still not using her "real" name (or maybe she changed her name because of the Russian Psy Ops ).
Bill or Kerry too should explain WHERE is that "important" stuff that many of us can't see. Maybe they know something off the camera, but we simply refuse to be thrilled by overblown announcements. No offense here, I'm just trying to find the real nature of this "legendary" interview!
I personally don't really care about this whole "super-event", but, as I previously said, I really don't know WHY is she marked almost as queen of all "contactees" or "futuretellers" or whatever?!

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:43 PM   #11
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dragonfly wrote: "What hit me hard about this recording was not her eyes, but the smile at the end. Just a corner of her mouth went up on the left side and I got a weird feel from her then."

That smile is similar to Cheney's signature smile. I think Camelot has been infiltrated, similar to the 9/11 truth movement.

BTW, she had zero question for the older, not even like, what happened to our mission children, or where do I find that little thing that I buried/misplaced.

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:51 PM   #12
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rainman wrote: 'but I am asking HER to explain why she is so "honestly concerned about humanity" but still not using her "real" name (or maybe she changed her name because of the Russian Psy Ops ).'

Good points. And the American Psy Ops showed no interest in her?

Don't they want to make sure the underground bases are totally off-limits?

As if 2012 isn't soon enough, now we have 2010 to think about.
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:06 PM   #13
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Another convenient truth that we've been exposed to:

Thus far we have been told, the 'bad' aliens (reptilians) shape-shift, but the 'good' ones don't. They do have genuine blonde hair, genuine blue eyes, genuine Mr/Ms Olympia bodies, and genuine pure white skin.

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Old 09-28-2008, 07:26 PM   #14
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Accipiter_Phi wrote: "On to Miriam's empasis on "seeds." I think Miriam is right on the money here, whether one takes the importance of "seeds" literally or esoterically."

Very intelligent writing Accipiter_Phi. Just don't buy seeds directly/indirectly from Monsanto. If the psychos decided to nuke Iran and trigger the next world war, I don't expect to see my seeds would do very well in the contaminated/radioactive soil. Without my mother earth, you can have my seeds.

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Old 09-28-2008, 07:31 PM   #15
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The point of this testimonies isn't in pure believing in them. We should learn or hear something new and important, but not the same story told for 1000 times.
Would you believe me if I say: "I'm going to work tomorrow". Of course you will, but does that make me "the chosen one"?
NO!
I'm asking all of you again:
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS INTERVIEW?

10 pages are written here in pure search of that point...
IMO that point SHOULD NOT BE just the old sentence "I want to believe"!
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:05 PM   #16
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feeler said: "I think Camelot has been infiltrated, similar to the 9/11 truth movement."

@feeler
U got some nice thinking there, this really COULD be the distraction point where many people should begin to FOLLOW Miriam on her journey to SOMEWHERE in search for SOMETHING that SHOULD tell us WHAT will happen in 2010
The problem is in the closeness of that 2010 and we will "all see" what will happen anyway!
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:06 PM   #17
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After having just sifted through ten pages of this thread, I just want to chime in my thoughts on Miriam.

First off, thank you Bill, Kerry and Miriam: this path you all have chosen is a hard one... yet very valuable.

To paraphrase Bill Ryan: [these testimonies are like individual trees in a grove... take in the story of each individual tree & then step back: and see the overall shape of the forest from the individual trees] (sorry Bill, your actual quote was much more elegant).

I believe Miriam to be sincere... I believe she speaks from her heart... but I recieved some red flags in the interview.

One aspect of her story stuck out for me: the description of the Nordic's "helper greys"; round black eyes, featureless, and robotic like.

This sure sounds exactly like the PLFs (Programmable Life Forms) that have been seen in various stages of production by multiple witnesses in various D.U.M.B. facilities. These little fellas seem to usually be invoved in abductee scenarios (including the now rare, first video "Incident at Lake County"... not the widely disseminated hoaxed second video).

So, what does this mean?
Are the Nordics in collusion with the PTB? Are they benevolent or malevolent; Nothing in this reality ever seems to be black and white.

To use a Star Wars analogy: Are the PLFs used for good like Yota's clone army... to be conversly be used by the Sith Lord to turn on the Jedi (or vice versa).

I believe the truth of the Nordic intentions may be much more nuanced. If benevolent, a "creator" or "seed" race would first go to the world's governments in order to help the populace. But what if those govs used their gained knowledge to further concentrate the power of the elite?

Wouldn't the benevolent aliens then seek out individual civilians to get their message out?

Then there is the valid time travel issue that ClarkKent broached at the top of this thread. Hitler believed the master race were the descendants of Atanteans and, which in turn came from the Pleaides. We know time travel exists... Even if we discount multiple whistleblower testimony, we have the widely publicised public domain sources, like the infalliable atomic clock experiments of yesterday. These clocks measure time by a constant rate of decay of radioactive isotopes into their daughter element; they cannot be wrong... the decay is the most constant thing in existence. The clocks were synched. Then one clock was sent into orbit around earth and one stayed earth bound. When they were compared after some time, there was a several second descrepancy between the two.

Given the existence of time travel, Nordics could have many motives... not to mention, there are likely many factions within ET Nordics. Just like all humans are not "good" or "bad."

On to Miriam's empasis on "seeds." I think Miriam is right on the money here, whether one takes the importance of "seeds" literally or esoterically.

In a literal sense, survival in the future will be hinged on our ability to live in a self sufficient and sustainable manner. We need to grow our own food from organic, NON Genetically Modified seeds. This is a given.

Yet, even esoterically: Are the awakened not "seeds" themselves? An acorn contains within its DNA all the genetic memory of a mighty oak... of all Oaks past and all oaks future. We, as aware beings, would be the seeds of a new paradigm of a new world... cataclysm or not.

Bottom line... we should keep all these testimonies in a file in our head. To deny Miriam's message because it seems "fear based" would be like the philosophical fallacy of "Denying the Antecedant:"

"Miriam is a contactee from benevolent aliens, therefore her message should be positive. Her message is not positive (it is gloomy), so therefore Miriam is not a contactee from benevolent aliens."


Anywho... thats my 2 shillings.
Thank you all for the spirited forum filled with differing opinions while maintaining civility.

"If the wall seems like a door, put new hinges on it so you can use it" -Ed fROMOHIO
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:03 PM   #18
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I simply can not believe that our desire for peace and love practice has been taken advantage of once again ...
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I did have some correspondence with Miriam few months ago and I m VERY WELL AWARE that she is either into money or she is seriously mentally ill. (this is MY conclusion and can be explained on request..if someone thinks that is word mentally ill to heavy)

...
I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,..
...

... quote; "... my father came from Yugoslavia.....I did not research his familly tree but if someone could,.. he WILL FIND many interesting things..."
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"seriously mentally ill" Ok, explain, please

Are you sure of your quote? I don't think she used the words "he WILL FIND".

"I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,.. "
This is a little contradictio in terminus alike.
If you cannot believe Kerry and Bill cannot see through her... then do you imply Kerry & Bill are in on it too? So they also are into it for the money? And play along with Miriam?
Well, well.

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"seriously mentally ill" Ok, explain, please

Are you sure of your quote? I don't think she used the words "he WILL FIND".

"I can not believe that Carry and Bill can not see her trough .. I think that is because of theirs wish to help and provide people with right info,.. "
This is a little contradictio in terminus alike.
If you cannot believe Kerry and Bill cannot see through her... then do you imply Kerry & Bill are in on it too? So they also are into it for the money? And play along with Miriam?
Well, well.
some of my words CAN be taken wrong because English is not my native...

bill and carry are NOT INTO MONEY - period.

what I wanna to say is basically that,.. sometimes in a rush when you see house burnin instead of bucket of water you can use bucket of petrol .. ok?


and YES I m absolutely sure that SHE said that if someone wants to examine her fathers past and family tree - that someone - will find very very interesting things....

for the " mentally ill or into money" thing I might paste some e mails from me to her or from her to me but I must reconsider some parts of it before...

but .. there is one for YOU ) go to her web site and tell me ..which button only GLOWS ,... and afterwards go to camelots site .. do you see any button glowing there? ... catch my grip?


be well

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#3 The Crux

It shall not be despicable to desert a transitory life
Was raising from a stressed and arduous time
Where consolation to thou is inly grief only
From there lack of willingly acquired and thorough knowledge repositories


At the time comes that causes all to relinquish
Shall not be a cause to thy forlorn and despondence
there will be inly excited about to happen
The tremor in welcoming banished servitude and dejectedness
Will make thou a resurrection and a betrayer
To thy very frugal knowledge and wasteful encaged life
Which often with its imprecise and ferocious profusions
Engraved with consternation & commiserated with emptiness


Before then life is a continued silence hoarse
Where sedative existence locked into some tightening knots
Where the city was lived and the food was consumed
Was in fact a binding agreement in Masks or Destiny, whatsoever
Laden with her meagerness and sudden physical pains and tricks
It did not make thy life more like a magical emancipation
It did not make things going on the like importance
It did not help transcend emotional chains stubbornly bonded us with combustion
And that the essential wisdom was in fact some loose opinions


From where, by there a machine was built
where intricated piece of cores spinning her ruffled fate
And high-tech gadgets and all imaginaries of sorts taking place
Tried by every rebellious initiatives upon Midway the journey
Those was found fleeting as piercing drop of light
It did not touch and did not weave a sanctuary for time
But left over bereaved bays, trees and lives of palms
And was known when all flower and lives do close
Will weave the garden for ultimate time repose


#4 The Iconoclast

One reigned supreme regime
Deeds and courageous language Men do use
Is to speak loud without imprecise follies:
When a soul once wakes up to the new influence
Brought to bear upon it is a forward pathway
Opening up for endless improvement
to new dimensions at all directions


By no means it was an accident
Like thou all being pushed come here to learn
to savor a segment of this very eduction:
Effort is inspired by faith, Must live
The image of world is not a swift impetus of torment
Is is a kingdom of pathways to infinite opportunities


Remember sadness makes heart less imaginary
And not to choose the ruined rules with absent remorse
There are many reasons why we shall embrace the learning
Where mighty intellect cyclonic force will be released to happen
A general view of cosmic grandeur and to introduce to minds
There is new life and vast sense field of universal divines
There is individual dire need to create an alternative world
To exceed Them who make us missing opportunities
To set free from the clammy grip of reality seeded way before
There will be no chance to detain or to trip and fall
There will be no need to eulogize or worship Creator as saint any more
For then we all stand alone and free from a judgement seat
There will be a discovery for the Earth and Them to learn
that defeat is as instructive as victory and is not the end of all


#5 The Crossing

When the sweet moment do happen
Thy Spirit will raise from dusty and dark courts and alleys
Travel and speed up in incremental distance at high
A holistic image less fragmented start in forming
At that point you and me will not turn
To watch the dimming Earth left beneath at awful solitude
And the hours will be termed oblivion or more
There will not be memory there once was a Creator
Who tried to levitate all the crippling fear influence
Of helpless watching His crops and belongings sweeping away
In the very true reality, not without sneers & rebuffs
Along with its penalties and responsibilities...
Sweeping and slipping...
They will also be freed


If this skips to happen, once or twice
Soon or later it will be subservient
For if there has no absolutely feverish zest for development
How can anyone hope to live fully an existence?
If the clicking will lead to a reconcile even
We better live our life up to this moment
And pass thou softest tears


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17:03 / Sept. 29, 2008

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