All Things NewEngland....redux

[Hightower_X]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

The Great Buffet Restaurant, 1525 S. Willow St., Manchester (right across the street from the mall)

Oct 4th, 6:00 pm.

Still here guys and gals...

Spend most my forum time over at OMF as a MOD and barely have enough time to do that... Want to let Avalon cool down as well. Great forum tho...

The Great Buffet? HUH? Never been there. Is the food safe? ;]

I should be able to make it.

[celestine420]

any body else in?

say I

[DoctorTony]

Still in!



code names or anything?

[celestine420]

THE LIST
OCT 4th

celestine420
Gregor Arturo
Irving
DoctorTony
NewParadigmGuy
BASEdude
1love
Brian Peck
eaglespirit
Jay&Nikki
rouge2
Kusala
Vangelo
petesm22
Gregg


........keep'm comin

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by celestine420

THE LIST
OCT 4th

celestine420
Gregor Arturo
Irving
DoctorTony
NewParadigmGuy
BASEdude
1love
Brian Peck


eight is a good start to a solid round-table discussion........keep'm comin

eaglespirit, Jay&Nikki, rouge2, Kusala, & Vangelo have all expressed interest as well.

[GregorArturo]

NewParadigmGuy, you said something at the meeting that St. Clair said Northern Maine would be a safe zone, I was wondering if you had any reference to that information? Thanks!

And with the meeting I really thought things were beneficial. However, at this time of times, I can really only see going with the flow and living in the moment, while avoiding the fear paranoia, as we all know until something presents itself, or at least to myself.

Someone recently made a point on the forum. Do TPTB want us to just disappear from mainstream society, the ones who COULD change the timeline dramatically? Makes me think.

This Spring, earlier the better, I'm planning, most likely with Irving and some friends, to go up to Katahdin, scout the area, and actually check out the largest cave system in Maine on the mountain. Interesting mythological significance with the cave as I mentioned earlier last month.

Otherwise, as many of us probably know, and as I see it, it's best to bunker down this winter, band together with the inevitable waking up of the masses (or at least some of them, I managed to do my fair share today of waking up sitting down with people. Times like these are opening peoples' minds), gather resources/supplies/knowledge, and think happy thoughts

The linguistics talk about mid-March with things calming down. Well that's when the snow melts here, and that's when I see things start to boil up with moving away from the coast.

I REALLY REALLY recommend people to check out the Orone Alchemy Social Group on Avalon. I've been with it to the beginning and it in itself has been its own wakening up for me. I have been studying Torsion energy for awhile, and hopefully soon with have a Unified Theory of Torsion out soon, based solely on mathematics.

[Mr_mike]

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[Kusala]

Greetings to all,

It was good to meet those of you in attendance in Manchester. Mr. Mike, the link you put up is not available. Could you re-post? Gregor, I am in agreement with you that this winter is and will be an important phase of time, to hunker down and continue on making preparations for next Spring. Many of us are still attempting to divine where to position and place our respective selves (and those we care about and love).

It is obvious to those of us who are actively watching (and waking up to) the events of our world, that these are rapidly shifting times. Today, is the much talked about day...the 7th, and I intuit much is going down behind the scenes. I pulled some money out of the bank yesterday and converted it into food and supplies. Not from a place of fear, but out of a growing sense that I must keep taking incremental (elemental), practical steps towards getting through a long, cold, uncertain winter in this bio-region.

I am striving to stay centered amidst the unknowns of this de-stabilizing period in human evolution and not feed into the massive (orchestrated) fear and anxiety that is present all around us. This is an incredible opportunity for ingenuity and true community building. We are on the cusp of something we cannot yet fully see. No doubt, these are difficult, dark times. We must arouse courage to face whatever comes, no matter how history plays out.

As St. Clair said, we must be flexible, malleable during this period. Vigilance, watchfulness, a growing immunity to the chaos surrounding us. Let us, the Ground Crew, continue on in this process of waking up. Let's keep the dialogue going amongst us. We are the warriors of Light, the peaceful warriors. Let us inspire one another to keep our inner balance amidst the social disruption and madness ahead. This is all leading to a new age in the evolution of the Earth, of humanity, of Spirit...lest we forget this truth.

Peace and Light to the World and to you my brothers.

Kusala

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

NewParadigmGuy, you said something at the meeting that St. Clair said Northern Maine would be a safe zone, I was wondering if you had any reference to that information? Thanks!

In this post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...maine#post3537

[NewParadigmGuy]

I was surprised when I mentioned the Free State Project at the meeting and nobody had heard of it. The Free State Project is a collective effort to convince 20,000 liberty activists to move to New Hampshire and work toward reducing the size and scope of government. Check it out:

http://freestateproject.org/

So far about 8700 people have signed up for the project and almost 600 have already moved here. I have met some of these people and find that we have much in common. They are free thinkers, and while most of them have probably not gone as far down the conspiracy rabbit hole as most in this forum have, they would certainly make good allies and neighbors.

Even in their relatively small numbers so far they are definitely having an effect upon the political and even social situation here. They have moved to all areas of the state, but they seem to be concentrating somewhat more heavily in the Manchester and Keene areas, and they have also started an unusual sort of intentional community in the tiny western NH town of Grafton.

They chose Grafton because many of the people there in Grafton already share the Free Stater's libertarian leanings, and they are simply moving there in ever increasing numbers. Their idea is to be enough of a voting block to help maintain the "small government" "hands off" attitude of the town government.

The intentional community aspect is different from many intentional communities because it does not necessarily include sharing land or co-housing. Of course it could include those things if people desired them. But they are mostly just finding places they like in Grafton and moving there. One guy bought a large parcel of land, subdivided it, and is selling building lots to other project members. So they end up with like-minded neighbors. A local barter economy has even started to develop using silver coins.

[GregorArturo]

NewParadigmGuy, thanks for the link! Definetly helps clarify it slightly better, along with the whole article. It said though just Maine, and not Northern Maine, which I wanted to make sure of, cause well Maine is an absolutely huge place as we all know.

I will state here that my intuition for a fair share amount of time has been telling me the mountains of Maine for a long time, in that any other alternative I would refuse to even consider (I'm not open minded to other ideas, I just trust my intuition).

As I pointed out though, my whole life I've been going to the Newry, Maine area (Sunday River) and very familiar with the area in general. Not to mention it is a gold mine (well not that type of mine) of minerals, specifically quartz based minerals like Amethyst and Tourmaline. There is a valley just north of Newry along the NH border that is completely uninhabited. Main reason it is a major watershed for Maine/NH, so only logging is allowed in the area. At least that's what I heard. It is the Grafton Notch area if any of you are familiar with it.

There is also Franklin County which borders Oxford County (Newy is in the northern tip of this county). Franklin County is where William Reich had his laboratory in the Rangeley Lakes region, and he himself witnessed UFOs in the area, and also borders Canada, which you could say is just a comforting feeling. The three areas that I am considering at the moment if you want to assist me in research of the area are these two counties, and Baxter State Park in Maine. This of coarse includes the idea of land ownership which is a tough idea to riddle through, as in may it not matter in times to come, especially in an extremely remote area such as Baxter State Park.

Here are some factors we should consider on potential areas for relocation:
1. Indigenous Myths - Abenaki and Penobscot
2. UFO sightings throughout history, areas of known paranormal activity
3. Geographic Practicality - Rivers/lakes, distance from society, terrain
4. Resource Availability in the region - Minerals, native edibles/animals
5. Your gut intuition

An idea we did express at the meeting about is relocating to a temporary area where one of us do have land already. Ideas of Keene, NH and Rockland, Maine were mentioned. Rockland however is smack dab on the coast. I believe it was NewParadigmGuy who said his family owned 2 acres of unused woods there.

The idea being it may be a staging point for us for times to come as all of us are fairly on board with the ideas that the coasts are not safe in times to come. We would then move into the mountains then on when we feel the time is right.

A point to make about Maine (but technically begins with Cape Cod going up to Nova Scotia), is the relatively large size of the continental shelf, aprox. 250 miles, while the average shelf tends to be 10-20 miles. This makes Maine very safe from the improbable (IMO) event of a tsuamni doing a significant devastation as the tidal wave has time to weaken over the shelf (the shelf is what causes the wave to raise in height as the wave in the ocean is compressed suddenly at the shelf).

Another interesting side note, the Appalachians are the oldest mountain range on the planet. So, Mt. Washington and Mt. Katahdin are the oldest mountains of their significant size on the planet.

Question, does anyone have farm animals by chance because sadly you can't get them in that lovely easily portable seed form?

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

It said though just Maine, and not Northern Maine, which I wanted to make sure of, cause well Maine is an absolutely huge place as we all know.

The context of his sentence is sort of hard to figure out, with the dash, but I read it as the mountains of Maine. Here's what he wrote:

"Yet, in parts of the mountains in states such as NM, CO, UT - Yukon and Maine and Northern Canada life will go on..."

Here are some factors we should consider on potential areas for relocation:
1. Indigenous Myths - Abenaki and Penobscot
2. UFO sightings throughout history, areas of known paranormal activity
3. Geographic Practicality - Rivers/lakes, distance from society, terrain
4. Resource Availability in the region - Minerals, native edibles/animals
5. Your gut intuition

I'd put good cropland at the top of the list. I own 30 acres in Nottingham, NH but the soil is terrible so I have pretty much ruled out trying to homestead there (after trying, with very little success, to grow a variety of plants there). Oddly enough, when I lived in Manchester years ago I had fabulous soil even on the small city lot. I could grow all kinds of stuff with ease there and had a great garden. Soil makes all the difference.

An idea we did express at the meeting about is relocating to a temporary area where one of us do have land already. Ideas of Keene, NH and Rockland, Maine were mentioned. Rockland however is smack dab on the coast. I believe it was NewParadigmGuy who said his family owned 2 acres of unused woods there.

No, it wasn't me, I think it was Dr Tony but I could be mistaken.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy

I'd put good cropland at the top of the list. I own 30 acres in Nottingham, NH but the soil is terrible so I have pretty much ruled out trying to homestead there (after trying, with very little success, to grow a variety of plants there). Oddly enough, when I lived in Manchester years ago I had fabulous soil even on the small city lot. I could grow all kinds of stuff with ease there and had a great garden. Soil makes all the difference.

30 acres is alot of land in my opinion to where there's a chance there may be some usable soil to some extent, just making a note of it. I do wildlife photography and can cover a decent amount of terrain in a day's work, never even close to 30 acres, and the amount of habitat varies to an extreme amount (this would def relate to soil differences). This would be based most on my experience with Maine, but also with out West and Florida. 30 acres, there's some usuable soil somewhere. Water source is a big help and type of flora growing. Land that's been previously cleared could be old in that it was once farmed in the past. Clearing portions of woods could indeed bring some healthy soil. Trees are living in them, and have been dying in them. Just something to think about it NPG.

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I'm down for meeting up this weekend. Sunday sounds good for me. Good place I know and usually go (not as of lately, bars are a bore at the moment) is Slainte on Preble St. I'll be honest and I don't even stray near the Old Port anymore. Horrible vibes there. I tend to stick to the art district.

I'd be more interested in meeting in a coffee shop during the weekday, late afternoon/early evening, if anything.

[NewParadigmGuy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

30 acres is alot of land in my opinion to where there's a chance there may be some usable soil to some extent, just making a note of it. I do wildlife photography and can cover a decent amount of terrain in a day's work, never even close to 30 acres, and the amount of habitat varies to an extreme amount (this would def relate to soil differences). This would be based most on my experience with Maine, but also with out West and Florida. 30 acres, there's some usuable soil somewhere. Water source is a big help and type of flora growing. Land that's been previously cleared could be old in that it was once farmed in the past. Clearing portions of woods could indeed bring some healthy soil. Trees are living in them, and have been dying in them. Just something to think about it NPG.

I've owned the lot for 10 years and have walked virtually all of it. The soil really is poor & was never farmed - there are rocks and boulders through the whole thing and no stone walls at all. The USGS quadrangle map & booklet for the area actually says that this quadrangle is the rockiest one in New England!

The only thing I have had any luck with is some nut trees and even those have matured very slowly. I do have a nice, but very small vegetable garden because I have imported or manufactured (through composting) all of the topsoil. Yes, the land could be homesteaded (though building is illegal there due to town regulations) but it would be so much effort that there is really not much point. Also it is only 300 - 400 feet above sea level and too close to the ocean for me to feel comfortable with. So at this point I plan to just harvest some nuts and firewood from it but live and homestead somewhere else. A single acre of good land (like the kind I had in Manchester) would be much easier to deal with and productive!

[DoctorTony]

NPG & Gregor

Yes, my parents own two acres of untouched land in Warren (I think it's Rockland county). I am encouraging them to sell it and buy land more inland (Northwest). Who knows if they'll heed.
I would love to go to NH though. I am already connected there. I have a chiro license and have a few friends in Manchester.

Tony

[Elizabeth Powell]

I've seen DEER HERDing done here. (amazing they don't jump the fence even tho there's really nothing stopping them ... kinda like us)

[GregorArturo]

There's fractal, Irving, and I here in Portland. I'd most likely be able to attend, only issue is a ride. Irving is the only one of us with a ride, so it would be his call. I am pretty sure he works saturdays though until three.

[unloadedgunn]

It would be great if Irving could get the day off (work till noon maybe). I have set aside the 25th and come hell or high water...and let's face it BOTH are possibilities

I hope to see as many people as possible. To get some help setting up, though not necessary, would be great! I have to leave now, and will be gone for about 4 hours. I"ll check in when I get back home. Please, please, please, get word out to as many folks as you can. Time is ticking away.

Peace out!

[unloadedgunn]

I just had a thought. I have plenty of tent space around here, and for those folks coming a long distance, this might be an option. I know it's chilly at night, but there's no better time to practice life in the wilderness than the present.

[Irving]

Originally Posted by unloadedgunn

I just had a thought. I have plenty of tent space around here, and for those folks coming a long distance, this might be an option. I know it's chilly at night, but there's no better time to practice life in the wilderness than the present.

I couldn't be more down. The hell with work. I like your attitude and your enthusiasm to get a large group of us together. I've always been theorizing a situation where somehow all of the "awakened" people in the world all buy a huge chunk of land together and set up shop and get to being creative. What is the largest possible chunk of land that could be bought? It could almost be like a new country, perhaps we could even declare our independence from all other countries. We could band together with the Ron Paul revolutionaries as well. Could thousands of people organize such a thing together? haha I love to think about it.

Anyway, I love your idea and I'm there. Could you PM me the town or address or whatever information you would like to give me? Thanks.

Wow. How strange (and great) to be on a Forum where familiar names are mentioned! I live in Saco, about 20 minutes to Portland. I'm still getting a handle on where posts are in the threads.

I'm recovering from a health issue at the moment, hopefully turned the corner, and would very much enjoy sharing thoughts and experiences with you all. If you decide to go ahead with the meet on the 25th please email or PM me.

Thank you!
Mark

PS - You're right, now IS the time to step forward.

[unloadedgunn]

I am glad to see all this interest, folks. I promise you Elizabeth the only deer here are "John Deeres". I am surrounded by farms. I hope to see you sylph, I live about an hour and 10 minutes from the border of CT. I really look forward to doing more than communicate in cyberland.

[sylph16]

Thanks Unloaded...we are there for the next meeting...its imperitive to get things moving ASAP as energy is accelerating and the time is now to meet and plan...please feel free to contact me via email or msn messenger anytime

sylph

[unloadedgunn]

I hope to as many of you as possible on the 25th. Please feel free to PM me for details. Let's get this ball rolling. We need to opt out of this broken system before it sinks and drags us all down. If you are in a sinking ship, you can stay on board hoping to be rescued, or you can swim for it, which is extremely dangerous. But, if you stay with the ship until it goes down, you will most certainly get caught in its undertow. I plan on taking my chances...

As the date gets nearer, it would be great to get a comprehensive list of the folks planning to come.

[Mr_mike]

(An idea we did express at the meeting about is relocating to a temporary area where one of us do have land already. Ideas of Keene, NH and Rockland, Maine were mentioned. Rockland however is smack dab on the coast. I believe it was NewParadigmGuy who said his family owned 2 acres of unused woods there.) this area in rockland would not be a good choice. i work in this area alot and it is heavely populated and it is right in the heart of midcoast maine. i live an hour from there nw direction and even i am looking to go more nw. the TR areas are excelent areas to go . lots of wilderness