Melbourne/Victoria

[sirdiablo69]

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MOST OF MY COMMENTS SO FAR WOULD SUGGEST IM PRIMARILY A MATERIAL GUY WHOM IS LARGELY CONSUMED BY PRACTICAL ISSUES SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF OF ALL AND ANY I WISH TO SHARE SEVERAL MAJORS DREAMS VISIONS THAT IVE HAD THAT HAVE ENTAILED SOME PROPHETIC AND/OR DEEP IMPRESSION/S SOME WITH A REACURRING THEME NOT TO BE CONFUSED BY ANY JUNGIAN ANAOLGIES RATHER HAVING A MORE LITERAL DELINIATION PLEASE DONT READ THEM AND DECIDE THAT WE ARE DOOMED
FIRST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE FOR- THE ENTIRE WEEK PROR TO THE 9/11 EVENT IMMEDIATELLY UPON WAKING IN THE MORNING EVERY DAY IN THE WEEK PRIOR TO 9/11 L SAT ON MY BEDSIDE AND BENEATH ME IN A VISION L WITNESSED AS IS L WERE A GIANT LOOKING DOWN FROM ABOVE I BEHELD A CITY BUILDING SEEMINGLY IN MINATURE WHERE THERE WHERE NUMEROUS PEOPLE VISIBLE IN THE UPPERMOST FLOORS OF THE BUILDING AND FOR REASONS I COULD NOT WORK OUT SOME OF THEM WHERE TRYING TO ESCAPE THE BUILDING FROM THE TOP FLOORS BY USING A LENGTH OF ROPE THAT WAS SIMPLY FAR TOO SHORT EVERY MORNING FOR THAT WEEK L WOULD HAVE THE SAME VISION THE MOMENT I AWOKE YET EACH MORNING THEY WOULD PERFORM THE SAME RITUAL TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM OF HAVING TO SHORT A LENGTH OF ROPE TO ENABLE THEM TO LEAVE THE BUILDING FROM THE TOP FLOORS L DID NOT KNOW WHY THEY WHERE TRYING TO EXIT FROM THE TOP OF THE BUILDING EXTERNALLY ONE MAYBE TWO WERE HOPING TO CLIMB DOWN THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING USING THE ROPE BUT IT SIMPLY WAS TWO SHORT AND ONLY REACHED SEVERAL FLOORS DOWN STILL A LONG WAY FROM THE GROUND TO BE EFFECTIVE YET THE FOLLOWING MORNING THE SAME EVENT OCCURED AND L BEGAN THINKING THE PERSON TRYING TO EXIT THE EXTERNALLY WITH THE ROPE KNEW AS DID SEVERAL OTHERSA LITTLE MORE ABOUT THEIR PLIGHT EACH DAY YET WHERE NOT ABLE TO IMPROVE UPON THE PREVIOUS DAYS FAILED ATTEMPTS L SIMPLY DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS DAILY EVENT IT WAS UNIQUE TO ME BOTH IN ITS MINITURE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS ITS DAILY OCCURANCE THEN THE NIGHT IMMEADIATELLT PRIOR TO THE NEWS BROADCAST OF 9/11 L SAW MYSELF MOMENTARILY DRESSED IN A BLUE SHIRT AND DARK BLUE TROUSERS JUST AS SUDDENLY L FELT MY THROUGHT CUT WITH A CORRESPONDING POOL OF BLOOD AT MY FEET AN EXTREMELY VIVID AND GRAPHIC IMAGE/VISION EVEN FOR ME SO I FELT STRONGLY DRIVEN TO TELL MY DAUGHTER THAT VERY SOON AN EXTREME EVENT IS GOING TO OCCUR EVERYONE KNOWS THE REST

[sirdiablo69]

Ok
the next major dream occured whilst asleep say major because although i did not have any reocurance i awoke almost immediately and have reacalled it many times since often looking at various events in the media so i could calmly reasure myself the dream/prochecy had been forfilled by some event yet ive not been able to give myself that reassurance = now to share it the dream began as some mild yet siily event l was watering a moderately sized limblees tree l realize you will hint maybe its phallic symbology simaltaenously i began to reason my illogical behaviour in light of our current water restrictions also the location although only several kilometers from here was not my aboad allthough my actions would suggest it was l turned my body to face an easterly direction and there was only meters away the sembalance of rising sea waters as though the nearby river had flodded as continued to turn towards the norht l realized that worse floding was occuring there to the piont that the nearby land mass was in fact breaking away dues to the rising sea level yet l did not feel personally threatened by any of this in fact my thoughts where this would be a great opportunity do do some fishing virtually right at my front door the moment later i awoke , im aware of all the jungian/ freudian analogy regards the phallic symbology of the limblees tree and the oceans association with mother etc but what for me was significant was all the media hype presentaion of computer model predictations regards global warning and rising sea levels yet i knew this dream was not saying that to me rather it was the results of severe weather conditions excessive oceanic enchrochments of coastal a region yet evertime i saw local media reorts of severe floding n the east of the stae l would tell myself that was my prophetic dreams expresion yet i remained unconvinced of such due to the eccessiveness presented in the dream that was yet to model itself in the realworld it did not appear to be directlly resulting from a tsunami type of action but the extensiveness and the extreme effects where not immediatelly noticable such as severe land loss being eaten by the ocean was an abuntantly a local feature like i have stated this severe anomaly is yet to occur

[sirdiablo69]

OK
the next vision l would like to share is a combination of two signifcant changes to the enviroment in this country, Australia. that has no large land based wild predetors neither does it have any significant snowfall except among some sparse mountain ranges and then only seasonly. yet in spite of those current facts, not so long ago l had a persistent coupling of the two. Firstlly l saw vast snow cover with sparse outcrops of trees/vegetation, including the use of horseback as a means of transportation with the very real need to accomadate to the dangers of a unfamiliar landscape and a servere climatic change, if that was not enough, another unplanned for danger had managed to present itself, some irresponsible people had released from captivity numerous large wild cats, both lions and tigers had survived the early cataclisyms that had previously occured suffient numbers as to enble them to self perpetuate and become a real threat towards surviving humanity whom existed in in bleak new world of a real ice age
as for the occuring ice age mans role could be disputed. as for the big cats it was clear that several god dammed zoo keepers realizing the impeding doom occuring around them chose to free numerous exotic species that rightfully l believe should out of consideration for local man been destroyed, instead where provided with freedom by various zookeepers whom cared more for their animals potential survival than they did for what became of the remanants of humanity
The result being the human survivors of the iniatal climatic cataclysms also over time to contend with and sometimes defend against the big cats. although l must say those persons that had survived thus far had little empathy if any, for matters pertaining to the like of contemporary animal welfare persons/organisations, not that they abused their available domestic stock as such but they shared no remorse over any killing of these new players eg lions tigers

[sirdiablo69]

Hi
the most recent dream that captured my attention was a a brief, l was facing some local shop fronts that at a place and time of day that usually was abounding with people and commerce, yet in my vision it was not so all the shops were sealed shut, there were no people to be seen anywhere, the only forms of life evident in the places of retail trade that l could see where large numbers of stray dogs, seemingly the resukt of owners that could no longer feed them, and rather than responsably have them put down, large numbers of dogs where left of discarded whom in turn became the remaing signs of life in a location where their where no people to be seen. what woke me from this experience was seeing my own dog a german shepherd to my surprise all in rapid succession l saw my own dog there he place his paw on my chest just as quickly l awoke stunned by the combination of events ld just witnessed

[sirdiablo69]

last one for now.
about six months ago l guess l was asleep yet conscious of events as though a real life event, ld recently read some acticle pertending majors changes that could very well change ordainary peoples options, these changes where not climate changes not warfare yet happening in my local neighboorhood, l was nearby my local business disrtict comprising of various retail shops court house mall shopping centre etc yet not all was normal, l noticed that at an otherwise busy time for shoppers and retails store both, there were instead very few people to be seen and those that we their comprised of only a hand ful of men most in groups of three or so and very few of those too as well unusally so ther were no women to be seen at all, then in the middle of the day l was out of deperation for food i trying to break into a local sports gym to procure what l could in the form of protien supplements ld know them to have, please to paint a clearer picture l dont steal yet for reasons not quite clear to me in the dream their was very little food avaialble when usually the supermarkets have bountiful supplies as well as that for reasons not clear to me in the dream there was not only no food available in the shops but l also had no funds available to buy food either even if it was available, and my general impression was most people were in the same situation as me all of us unprepared for empty shelves at the supermarket as well as no money pay for anything that might be available that woke me with a real shock and drove home to me jsut how unprepaired l am and how vulnerable to any changes in the line of supply

[sirdiablo69]

RATIONS FOOD SOME SUGGESTED INEXPENSIVE OPTIONS PLUS
gday ok for those with severe budjetry restraints whom would rather eat than starve i offer for some affordable options before l do l must highlight the real possibilty yhat some of us may not be able to escape melb metro ahead of time that said l offer the following suggestions
the immediate and primary purchase you make is cheap large plastic vessels from the like of bunnings for water storage in your current residence do you maths for each person you require a minimum of 2 liters per day just for comsumption as well you are advise to allow up three months supply therfore for one person alone thats a minimum of 180 ltrs of water just fill them directlly from your domestic water outlet eg kitchen tap and store them prefferably out of direct sunlight you will also need to allow youself an additional 500mls per days minimum for the purpose of a cup bath that is in simplr terms a wash cloth that you soak and suds in a cup with soap and water over total body surface then rinse wash cloth in fresh cup of water then rinse of soapy body with same.
the reson for storing persnal water supply for emergency use in case there is a supply problem that doesnt get rectified due to potential anarchy and lose of current services
FOOD
really cheap and capable of sustaining life is oats raw plus tablespoon of honey with water to moisten, just as important you need aproximately 2ltrs of good quality virgin olive oil dosage approximately 1 tblespoon per day other you develop what they terms rabbits desease which can prove fatal
Add to the above approximatelly three large bootles of a mutlivitamin reccomend blackmores brand plus a three rather large bottles actually small tubes of vitamin c which effectivelly prevent any flu virus from turning into influenza or phneumonia to treat use a minimum 3000mg vit C ABD CONTINUE TO SELF DOss for atleast 1 week
ALSO purchase a good 6 to 7 garlic bulbs for garlic is a natural antibotic, also for successful treatment of MRSA which is that flesg eating virus that allready exisrs outside the hospital enviroment as noted by sydney doctors whom recently reported cases occuring in people who had not contact with any hospital MRSA is now the biggest killer of hospital patients in hospitals throughout england and cases increasing throughout the hospital systems in the developed world
FOOD again you also need to various seeds eg mung beans, alfalfa seeds, preferably about 30 kilos that you sprout simply by placeing a palmful in a glass jar with a fine mesh lid you can use womens stocking to make the make the mesh lid and secure it with a rubber band then twice a day you rinse the seeds in the glass jar with a snall quantity of water and leave in the windows sunlight to sprout sprouting seeds will provide you with en enournous ammount of quality living food that is high in nutrient value at a very low outlay
all the above will ensure you survival for the duration of your supplies
IMPORTANT VERY IMPORTANT DO NOT SHARE KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR SUPPLIES WITH ANYONE NOT YOUR NEIGHBOOR NOT YOUR VISITORS NOBODY AT ALL IF THE PROVERBIAL S** T HITS THE FAN YOU WILL BE KILLED FOR YOUR SUPPLIES
STARVATION MAKES PEOPLE DO THE MOST HORRIBLE THINGS BE WARNED

[sirdiablo69]

EXITING MELBOURNE PREPERATIONS
you will need a car and you will need a trailer
you already have the basic cheapest food list anything else is a luxury item
if their is a total collapse of the global finacial system even a local one then any cash you have will be good not even be worth the paper it is written on
therefore if you have some cash that you can use as the economy nosedives two other items are good bagaining chips
one is ciggarettes
the other is flasks of wiskey or rum
also make sure if you require any regular medications make sure you stock up on at least six mounths supply

[sirdiablo69]

Gday
l have plagerised some of the information that l have supplied on my posts there fore in evryones interest l offer one valueable reference site that will for a small fee l thinks its about twenty dollars provide a downloadable pdf file written by a a former speacial operations personal whom assisted american and south american governments instigate martial law this document may save your life and no l get no financial reward for letting you know this survivemartiallaw.com

[AussieG]

We have had some great info on this tread thanks to all.
However I still wish to meet with people to start a discussion group (many hand make light work) any suggestions. If you wish I will find a place and time, probably around Melb somewhere central to get things rolling

There are two opposing forces at work, FEAR and LOVE. If you are feeling the fear they have already won. We can change this by focusing on our own destiny and make it happen, changing attitudes from "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME" to "HOW CAN I HELP".

[ForsakenFalcon]

*crys* Not Everything is souly based on

Fear <--------------->Love

Haven't u seen "Donnie Darko" life isn't that simple there are many aspect's to consider.....

What am I feeling? Fear or Love?

Awnser = Curiosiety for the time beeing. However if crap hit's the fan then My feeling's I would have to say "Justifieable" from that day on I only do what I moraly view as Justifieable.

We have had some great info on this tread thanks to all.
However I still wish to meet with people to start a discussion group (many hand make light work) any suggestions. If you wish I will find a place and time, probably around Melb somewhere central to get things rolling

I couldn't agree more. We do need to meet up, but there seems to be a lack of enthusiasm. I've put the question forward already in regards to a time and place for this meeting, but very few have responded, with the exceptions of yourself and sirdiablo69.
OK, I'm thinking of Saturday 18th of October '08 at say 2:00pm.
Location: Melbourne City Square - On the corner of Swanston and Collins Streets, Melbourne. Check the map below:



I would recommend you get there via train and getting off at Flinders Street Station. Its not far from there.
Getting into the City via car will pose parking problems. I'll leave it up to you as to whether you go by train or by car.
Now, so we can identify who is the Ground Crew and who are just normal pedestrians, I suggest we wear a white tee-shirt, perhaps with "Victorian Ground Crew" printed on the back and "Project Avalon" on the front. Its not 100% necessary, but would make things a bit easier.
We can talk in the Square or we can find an outdoor coffee shop. I'll shout the first coffees.
If the above isn't satisfactory, then please, I'm open to suggestions.
For those not familiar with Melbourne, your more than welcome to come to my place, leave your car there and you can come with me. Just PM me and I'll give you my address.
OK, now the step has been taken, I'll expect plenty of responses. Please don't disappoint.
Take care all and I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

Hello Pomguymguy. Welcome to the Victorian Chapter of the Project Avalon Ground Crew.
I hope you will join us in meeting up at the arranged spot as shown above.
Take care my friend, and once again welcome.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

P.S. What part of England did you come from???

[ForsakenFalcon]

lol I have no problem's meeting up with any one here, I do dislike the city though lol haven't been there for some years now.

lol I have no problem's meeting up with any one here, I do dislike the city though lol haven't been there for some years now.

So does this mean you'll attend the meeting???
Take care and please let me know.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

[Lt Ripley]

Hey DarkMatter,

Count me in.

One exception tho: I look rubbish in white, therefore my sister is making us black T-shirts that will say "P.A. GROUND CREW" on the front. As I'm typing this, she also asked if we should wear foil on our heads....smart ass.

I work in the city so I'm familiar with the meeting place.

If anyone wants my mobile phone number in case of a change or whatever, PM me and I'll send it to you.

See you guys soon.

[Lt Ripley]

PS: That's two people coming, I meant to say. My sister and I will be making an appearance.

Cheers

[AussieG]

Sometime it is all in the timing. Unfortunately I will be out of the state on that date, the only week I have had off in years I"ll be researching higher ground. The next weekend ( Sat.4th) is as close as I can get. If that is unsuitable please post 2nd meeting.

[Don'tPanic]

Originally Posted by Lt Ripley

Hey DarkMatter,

Count me in.

One exception tho: I look rubbish in white, therefore my sister is making us black T-shirts that will say "P.A. GROUND CREW" on the front. As I'm typing this, she also asked if we should wear foil on our heads....smart ass.

I work in the city so I'm familiar with the meeting place.

If anyone wants my mobile phone number in case of a change or whatever, PM me and I'll send it to you.

See you guys soon.

WELL, I thought the foil hat idea was good until I realised the scientologists may think we are mocking them and they might attack us

I'm Krissy HALLO! I'm looking forward to the meeting!

Hello Krissy and welcome to the Victorian Ground Crew Thread, and of course, as a member of Project Avalon Forum.
Looking forward to meeting you and sis.
Take care and I hope to see you posting like crazy.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

To ALL Victorian Ground Crew Members
I spoke on the telephone with sirdiablo69 last night for about an hour, and he had some very interesting and great ideas on how to go about things when it comes to crunch time. Unfortunately he cannot make it to the meeting on the 24th, and I understand fully his reasons. But hopefully he and I will meet up personally to discuss things in more detail, to which I will relay to all attending the meeting.
Take care all and peace be with you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

P.S. We need more members to pledge themselves for the meeting. So far the response has been a tad poor. DON'T worry we won't bite.

[Lt Ripley]

BUMP

Bumping this thread so that it can be seen by others interested in coming along to the 24th Oct meeting,

[sirdiablo69]

Gday All,
l would like to ask all of you how do feel. Specifically how does it feel when you entertain the doomsday scenarios provided by the whistleblowers. Im not just talking about what say as much as what those events really portray in there entirerity. l personally take most or the whistleblowers testimonies quite seriously even though l sincerely hope none of the events come to pass, l insist on making as many preparations to try and offset the disavantages we could easily encounter, for example l am trying to stockpile water in the likelyhood of temporay or longterm unavailability, even though we currentlly enjoy an abundant supply of mains water, and the list seems endless sofar as trying to cover even basic requirements.

[ForsakenFalcon]

anyone got a spare room to rent? =O
lol I may have to start looking for a new place soon >.>

[Aussie Babe]

Hello Pomguymguy! Yes you are up near me and living where my ancestors lived actually I think there are still some rellies there . Kerang was another place, they went forth and multiplied. Lmao

sirdiablo69 I agree with you and think it's a good idea that you store water and food of course and candles/torches.batteries for a start.

ForsakenFalcon Sorry hun wish I could help but afraid not.

All you guys that are meeting in Melbourne hope you have a good day and come up with a plan. Things are starting to get rather urgent. Afraid I won't be able to make it (health issues) and a long way to travel. But I wish you all the best of luck.

Peace to you all.
Barb

[Peace2all]

Originally Posted by DarkMatter

To ALL Victorian Ground Crew Members
I spoke on the telephone with sirdiablo69 last night for about an hour, and he had some very interesting and great ideas on how to go about things when it comes to crunch time. Unfortunately he cannot make it to the meeting on the 24th, and I understand fully his reasons. But hopefully he and I will meet up personally to discuss things in more detail, to which I will relay to all attending the meeting.
Take care all and peace be with you.
Best regards,
John
DarkMatter

P.S. We need more members to pledge themselves for the meeting. So far the response has been a tad poor. DON'T worry we won't bite.

HI All,
Just read about this and its a great idea, I'll be there on 24th and will look out for black/white t-shirts?