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Old 02-24-2010, 07:25 PM   #1
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The old Soviet Union added fluoride to the water to make the population apathetic. 'Nuff said!

Fluoride is toxic. My kid's dentist tried to get us to give them fluoride tablets. After me trying tactfully to tell him no, I had to get irate. Finally pizzed him off and found a new dentist. Fools, suggesting kid's be given poison!

The EPA has FINALLY concluded it should not be added to water. Let's see how long it takes that decision to flow down to the operators of the water systems.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:50 AM   #2
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Fluoride IS in the drinking water where I live but I rarely if ever use that water. If they're adding fluroride to bottled water, where the hell am I supposed to get water free of it?
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:27 PM   #3
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Fluoride IS in the drinking water where I live but I rarely if ever use that water. If they're adding fluroride to bottled water, where the hell am I supposed to get water free of it?
Read the info on my thread which is stickyed...
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7340
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:34 PM   #4
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I think Flouride is only toxic at high level concentrations, I'd have to check though to get the exact figure and compare with the typical water bottle in the house.

How much is Too Much?

Edit -- found some info here: http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question21.html
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:53 PM   #5
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any amount in my mind... a posion is a posion in my book...

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

Check out the health implications... there is enough evidence for me... I distill all my water, have done for almost 2 years and re-energise it with a vortex jug... I add a little sea salt but eat a lot of fruit and vegetables for bio-available minerals...

Since a top Harley street cancer doctor told me to remove it from my late dad diet/toothpaste our whole family have been filtering or distilling since then...

I think this is the place they are targeting with the fake fluoride is good for you global campaign....

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FLUORIDE & the PINEAL GLAND (Click for more detail)
In the 1990s, it was discovered that the pineal gland is a major site of fluoride accumulation within the body - with higher concentrations of fluoride than either teeth or bone.

Subsequent animal studies indicate that the accumulation of fluoride in the pineal gland can reduce the gland's synthesis of melatonin, a hormone that helps regulate the onset of puberty. Fluoride-treated animals were found to have reduced levels of circulating melatonin and an earlier onset of puberty than untreated animals. The scientist who conducted the research concluded:

"The safety of the use of fluorides ultimately rests on the assumption that the developing enamel organ is most sensitive to the toxic effects of fluoride. The results from this study suggest that the pinealocytes may be as susceptible to fluoride as the developing enamel organ" (Luke 1997).

The fact that fluoride's impact on the pineal gland was never studied, or even considered, before the 1990s, highlights a major gap in knowledge underpinning current policies on fluoride and health.

According to the US National Research Council, "any agent that affects pineal function could affect human health in a variety of ways, including effects on sexual maturation, calcium metabolism, parathyroid function, postmenopausal osteoporosis, cancer, and psychiatric disease.”

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Old 02-25-2010, 09:06 PM   #6
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any amount in my mind... a posion is a posion in my book...
What I would like to understand is, and I don't live in U.S or anywhere near so obviously this is a global issue of bottling water with flouride included, but why don't they completely remove it from all products? whats been the "official" excuse till now?

It does seem to me that indeed there's an effort to reduce the global population through various means and this being one of them, I'm skeptical of many other claims but this seems to be self evident quite frankly.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:35 PM   #7
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I think Flouride is only toxic at high level concentrations, I'd have to check though to get the exact figure and compare with the typical water bottle in the house.

How much is Too Much?

Edit -- found some info here: http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question21.html
Think long term cumulative exposure. Drink it for a week, no problem. Drink it for a few years, problem.
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Old 02-26-2010, 05:39 AM   #8
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Canadian Dental Professional against Fluoride use:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=167577

I work in the field of water resources (less in the treatment side these days, more in storm water management) and I'm tempted to contact some folks I know at the treatment plant to see if they are in fact still putting stuff in the water. I'm want to send the above video to them if so, but I'm also concerned that it might be a potentially suicidal career move ya know?

The line between the right thing and the 'right' thing is blurrier and blurrier these days.
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:59 PM   #9
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You know what kind of gas they use when they tent a home for termites and other insects?

Fluoride Gas
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:26 PM   #10
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Fluoride IS in the drinking water where I live but I rarely if ever use that water. If they're adding fluroride to bottled water, where the hell am I supposed to get water free of it?
All distilled water is free of fluroide -- that is unless they add it in after distilling

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Old 02-25-2010, 09:34 PM   #11
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Pure water filters do the trick
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