Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent?

Stardustaquarion · 02-15-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by morguana

the tibetan monks can not become lamas unless they go to the chinese and apply! the tibetan monks and nuns have been killed, raped and beaten, the dali lama is a beautiful man, who has tried to ensure that his people have the right to continue to live under tibetan law.......dont you think that if the cia gave you a hand in trying to keep your people free (rather than be taken over by the chinese), you would do the same. i know i would, sadly though the west has turned away from helping the tibetans, so they are continuously persecuted and made to bow down to chinese rule. i support the dali lama with all my heart, and i hope he continues to meet with heads of state, at least he has something interesting and worth while to say.
he is just being human
m x

Make deals with the devil? how does that help you? The Dalai Lama could have changed his regime and find a win win situation for his people but he chose to help the rich instead and make deals with the slave masters...

No Morguana there are things a person does not do even if the price is one's life for what is a life when we are selling our souls and spirits to the very essence that is helping to destroy us?

The implications are deep, and I will say again, if only people knew what it means

A good man do not do these things, Ghandi would not have done this....

Pacifists don't do deals with slave masters, terrorists and assasins...the two do not go together

Truth does not work with lies

I am gutted cos I was naive enough to believe that he was honest but deep inside the pomp and circumstance worried me, now I know why

Love

K626 · 02-15-2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Make deals with the devil? how does that help you? The Dalai Lama could have changed his regime and find a win win situation for his people but he chose to help the rich instead and make deals with the slave masters...

No Morguana there are things a person does not do even if the price is one's life for what is a life when we are selling our souls and spirits to the very essence that is helping to destroy us?

The implications are deep, and I will say again, if only people knew what it means

A good man do not do these things, Ghandi would not have done this....

Pacifists don't do deals with slave masters, terrorists and assasins...the two do not go together

Truth does not work with lies

I am gutted cos I was naive enough to believe that he was honest but deep inside the pomp and circumstance worried me, now I know why

Love

How has he done deals with the devil?

Stardustaquarion · 02-15-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by K626

How has he done deals with the devil?

We only have two agendas here:

a) Eternal life, living in harmony with the universal laws which I will not bore you to enumerate but sufice to say that Integrity is required

b) Finite life, tptb agenda that include using us not only as a commodity but taking the quantum or energy of our soul and spirit to fuel their death star systems will not bore you with the long explanation here either as this subject has been discussed in this forum at length

The CIA serves TPTB hence the forces against eternal life. Those that take more than their fair share with reap the consequences sooner or later, the truth can not be contained it always has the habit to poke its head out sooner rather than later

This is an equal interchange of energy universe still, we are all EQUAL there are none that are better or superior than any other, diffent yes but not superior. To believe that someone is superior than us just because they hold a "sacred office" (Maxwell explains very well what and office means) is to be enslaved by outer appariences

For myself I am gratefull that Tarpley said what he said, it has helped me to realize that idolizing someone is bad for oneself and bad for the person we are idolizing, it is productive to see everyone as equal that is the only way out of slavery at all levels

Love

K626 · 02-15-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

We only have two agendas here:

a) Eternal life, living in harmony with the universal laws which I will not bore you to enumerate but sufice to say that Integrity is required

b) Finite life, tptb agenda that include using us not only as a commodity but taking the quantum or energy of our soul and spirit to fuel their death star systems will not bore you with the long explanation here either as this subject has been discussed in this forum at length

The CIA serves TPTB hence the forces against eternal life. Those that take more than their fair share with reap the consequences sooner or later, the truth can not be contained it always has the habit to poke its head out sooner rather than later

This is an equal interchange of energy universe still, we are all EQUAL there are none that are better or superior than any other, diffent yes but not superior. To believe that someone is superior than us just because they hold a "sacred office" (Maxwell explains very well what and office means) is to be enslaved by outer appariences

For myself I am gratefull that Tarpley said what he said, it has helped me to realize that idolizing someone is bad for oneself and bad for the person we are idolizing, it is productive to see everyone as equal that is the only way out of slavery at all levels

Love

Living in harmony with universal laws alone will get you precisely nowhere, it is why we have been given choices. Universal law taken in isolation is a closed system...Useless. Take a step back. IF the universe has any interest in us then that interest is partly based around our ability to fail....

Stardustaquarion · 02-15-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by K626

partly based around our ability to fail....

That is what appears to be but the prefered choice of source is that we live in harmony with the laws of the universe and experience the fullness of our power as eternal beings

We are given free will and falling and failing is a choice and a possibility but not a "necessity" of the organization of the worlds

Failing and falling has consequences and we are experiencing those consequences now in our own fragile bodies that live such a short time and are so frail, and our livestyles that are so hard and demanding

These are the consequences of the decissions that we as collective, as humanity have taken aeons ago, because not taking a choice and looking to the other side hoping that the problem will go away is a decission too. One that we as a race might have taken one time too many and continue to take

I can only say this out of my own experience journeying to other planes/places that there are other realities where death does not exist nor illness nor lack nor war...

Love

K626 · 02-15-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

That is what appears to be but the prefered choice of source is that we live in harmony with the laws of the universe and experience the fullness of our power as eternal beings

We are given free will and falling and failing is a choice and a possibility but not a "necessity" of the organization of the worlds

Failing and falling has consequences and we are experiencing those consequences now in our own fragile bodies that live such a short time and are so frail, and our livestyles that are so hard and demanding

These are the consequences of the decissions that we as collective, as humanity have taken aeons ago, because not taking a choice and looking to the other side hoping that the problem will go away is a decission too. One that we as a race might have taken one time too many and continue to take

I can only say this out of my own experience journeying to other planes/places that there are other realities where death does not exist nor illness nor lack nor war...

Love

If the joker didn't appear he would have to be invented. Universal law no.1.

Stardustaquarion · 02-15-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by K626

If the joker didn't appear he would have to be invented. Universal law no.1.

I don't think is a joke, it is instead, from my perspective, a never ending love story

Source love us so much that gave us free will...we can use it in which ever way we want...even if it means our self destruction

We can go back to source as eternal beings, masters of ourselves or, we can go back to source as space dust with no memory of what we learned or identity. It is our choice and any choice is valid

Source loves every bit of itself regardless

One could take confort on knowing that we will never ever be trully totally destroyed and we are always loved, forever and ever and never judged

Our only judge is our own DNA...

Love

Harper · 02-15-2010, 05:55 PM

Hi Stardust,

I think the joker and the fool are wonderfully important, I found this - its not mine but I thought it might help. The fool is the zero point, the totality of all possibilities.

Comic Reversals and Frustration with Reason

One of the main functions of humor in Zen is in trying to allow one to understand the absurdity in attempting to classify reality into categories. Thus, the boundaries formed between logical issues are broken down, revealing the frustration that Zen has with logic and reasoning.

An example of this can be seen in a Zen anecdote about a Zen master who lay dying. His monks are all gathered around his deathbed, and the senior monk leans over and asks the master for any final words of wisdom for his monks. The old master weakly says, "Tell them Truth is like a river." The senior monk relays this message on to the other monks. The youngest monk in the group is confused, and asks, "What does he mean that Truth is like a river?" The senior monk relays this question to the master, and the master replies, "O.K., Truth is not like a river."

We see here a serious message wrapped up in a humorous package. The absurdity of classifying things into little boxes is revealed here: Truth is and is not like a river; it transcends classification.

The question 'Is it all serious?' is a very important one to ponder on! NO JOKE

thanks for all the contributions

Agape · 02-15-2010, 07:39 PM

Not an agent no. Someone with higher attics , read ethics, and intents than to be 'a king' . His Holliness Dalailama ( resp. for many other masters in the East as well ) is a teacher of ancient teachings , some meant right for everyone , like the vast buddhist lectures on wisdom, meditation and compassion, other preserved by gifted few.
Tibet has been physically and spiritually protecting itself from the rest of the world for a way too long,
they managed to maintain peaceful relationships with their immediate neigbours , mainly China and Mongolia for many centuries ,
surrounded by snow capped Himalayas, they proudly called themselves ''Snow Land of Tibet'' .
They've developed unique culture based on preserving knowledge. Though some of it is apperars now to be freely available in the west ,
and cheap enough to buy,
it's hardly possible to understand way of old masters, unless you meet one in person.

I doubt that Camelot Project is allowed on Chinese internet ( smiley ?)

FREEDOM TO TIBET

Freedom to everyone else too....

A

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 02-16-2010, 01:52 AM

i watched a 4 part lecture on youtube of the dalai lama in london and thought it was excellent, it was part of my awakening process. maybe the old footage i saw of crowd control at a festival were more ot do with bonn than buddhism.

perhaps he is under some kind of control where it was a choice of be killed by the chinese or become under the thumb of the cia as a pawn to get a china (under pain of death perfhaps). im sure he is being used as we all are.

Agape · 02-16-2010, 02:28 AM

Consider a situation of nation and a man who grew up independant and not bowing to anyone else than their elders .

Tibetans are proud people of vast mountains, lakes, infinite space, their love nature, their homeland above all.
Do you think anyone really wanted to go to India ? Many had died on the way through high Himalayas passes ,
many had died affected by hot south Indian climate and infections, exhausted, hungry and monks with what can be compared here to post gradual degrees were forced to work on the roads in India,
to maintain their living and help to rebuild some of the monasteries , colleges , children villages housing hundreds of their children who lost their parents or were sent by them to India, in the risk of life ,
just to grant them education and to preserve their culture.

They are people of very brave hearts and unshakable spirits .

They were offered help several times, by several resources, descretly , but they refused , to preserve non violent approach.

There was involvment from CIA who trained few Tibetan soldiers and sent the units to organize silent but armed uprising, in the 60th .

The unit failed to organize anything, as the whole region was under brutal chinese control.

Many Tibetans don't fully agree with his peaceful and disactive approach, the young generation would fight to get their homeland back , all means.

The moral of the story ? Till there is single injustice taking place in this world , we all are suffering.

A

Stardustaquarion · 02-16-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Agape

Consider a situation of nation and a man who grew up independant and not bowing to anyone else than their elders .

A

I understand how you feel, we all feel distressed when our worlds and beliefs are threatened but the end does not justify the means, that is what spiritual integrity is about

Our bodies, or flesh suits, are not really worth the compromisse of loosing our spiritual integrity

Yes life is tough in this planet, but people that are self proclaimed pacifists can only call themselves pacifists if they have integrity with regards to the principles that they are proclaiming

I have no doubt that when we are in difficult situations we all make mistakes and forget that we are spiritual beings. Our worldly possesions, that include our bodies, are not really all that important to the big picture, we can always be born again

Ghandi was a pacifist and he got beatten for his beliefs and underwent incredible hardship. Yet he achieved what he set himself to achieve because he had integrity. Same applies to Mandela who was in jail for a long time just to be heard

This whole thread is about INTEGRITY, no about whether we as humans have weaknesses or not and whether the end justify the means

I am sad too to learn of the downfall of others, I will have rather not, but truth comes out and it is not wise to hide oneself under the mattress and pretend things are not happening

I understand that the Dalai Lama himself have said that he had dealings with the CIA. That is his burdain to carry too as it was his choice

What can not longer be prettended is that he is a pacifist. He may be a man concern for his people and country but he is not a pacifict, that is all

Love

swordsmith · 02-16-2010, 12:12 PM

The truth process will take a willing person to concealed areas of our own fearful emptiness, if you go far enough you will find your own fullness. I used to have a few altars, now I have S P A C E. (Not sure what to do with it sometimes)
For some further information on Tibet,
http://www.youtube.com/user/linuxgur.../0/bJGr86ikA3U
and perhaps read the sidebar for links.
It hurts to let go of sacred cows, but eventually you realise you don't have to deal with their dung, though apparently it burns well.

I have no personal feelings about the DL, never ACTUALLY met him. I can see he does a very good job as a front person. That's the problem for me, while everyone is watching the show, I like to go round the back of the tent.

Stardustaquarion · 02-16-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by swordsmith

I have no personal feelings about the DL, never ACTUALLY met him. I can see he does a very good job as a front person. That's the problem for me, while everyone is watching the show, I like to go round the back of the tent.

I am with you on this, I also like SPACE

Agape · 02-16-2010, 08:22 PM

And that's the sad though inevitable ending of all old cultures, Tibetan nation and learning they preserved is slowly dying out in front of our and this worlds eyes and we allow it to happen..

We are digging out remains of those who are gone ..but care less for those who are living and what is THEIR message for humankind.

They live their religion day by day and are in peace with that..they are well trained people, over time and most of the old generation agree with H.H.Dalailama, they are pacifists ..at the cost of their human existence,
by peace they maintain integrity and they are not all able to face our type of modern civilisation, similar as my granny or my mum, but they are far older souls.

The legend of Shambhala is eternal and it sais that those who had transcended their time will be reborn in faultless realms.

Been there, seen that, should not speak

A

Agape · 02-16-2010, 09:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhXw-2aqJ3E

I've only now listened to the initial video you've posted ( shame of me ) ..
and I'm feeling responsible to tell you that 'the way Mr Tarpley presents facts is a scam.
It's like trying to depict culture in the worst possible terms , so agrreable with Chinas 'liberation' approach.

It's as if you start describing US now in very bad terms and all the dirt going on in politics and crimes and military regime whatever ..try speak to China, they might liberate yea

He forgot to mention attrocities, tortures and mutilations conducted by chinese on tibetans as well as their own people ..and there's no control over what they do in their 'homeland'.

swordsmith · 02-16-2010, 09:02 PM

I'm not a dogma person, give me cats anyday.

waitinginthewings · 02-16-2010, 09:14 PM

Buddhism is not considered a "religion" by Buddhists. It is a philosophy and a way of life, which Buddhists practice daily. The Path of Heart is a good book to read by the DL.

This man appears to be sentenced without evidence or trial.

Best not to judge unless there is hard core evidence & not just speculation & cybernet gossip. Best to ask the question, why and what has Tarpley to gain by his attack on DL? Which camp is he in?

K626 · 02-16-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Buddhism is not considered a "religion" by Buddhists. It is a philosophy and a way of life, which Buddhists practice daily. The Path of Heart is a good book to read by the DL.

This man appears to be sentenced without evidence or trial.

Best not to judge unless there is hard core evidence & not just speculation & cybernet gossip. Best to ask the question, why and what has Tarpley to gain by his attack on DL? Which camp is he in?

Agreed.

I mentioned earlier what Tarpley is upto. It's to do with not enraging the Chinese so they don't dump US bonds and his deep hatred of Obama.

Stardustaquarion · 02-17-2010, 07:26 PM

Thank you for your doubts, they made me research more deaply and oh boy there is plenty evidence of that the Dalai Lama is on the CIA payroll and that he helped organize a violent uprising. So much for pacifism

The following articles also explain a lot about the abuses that the tibetan people suffered under the Dalai Lama which explain why they did not do anything to defend its kingdom

I was shocked to learn that the Dalai Lama received money from the CIA, now I am speachless at the propaganda machine that creates "mirages" of inexistent saints

Cheers
PS there were so many articles that I just stopped reading, here are some examples but there are many more

http://newschecker.blogspot.com/2007...-in-power.html

http://www.infowars.com/the-role-of-...as-holy-cloak/

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Dalai%...ys.-a053476012

http://www.greenleft.org.au/1996/248/13397

http://www.northern-iowan.org/opinio...arch-1.2085931

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-53476012.html

morguana · 02-15-2010, 12:15 PM

ahhhh stardust, you see i guess thats where we differ, i would sell my soul in order to save my people. right or wrong, there is never absolutes, there is only doing the best with the tools we have or are presented at the time. there is a saying in psychotherapy.......we can only be good enough mothers or fathers (klien)
m x

K626 · 02-15-2010, 12:17 PM

So let me get this straight we think the DL is in the CIA's pocket cause Tarpley says so....Hilarious.

morguana · 02-15-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K626

So let me get this straight we think the DL is in the CIA's pocket cause Tarpley says so....Hilarious.

i agree, just another person out to discreadit one of the worlds most beautiful people.........long live the dali lama

m x

swordsmith · 02-15-2010, 12:39 PM

no, it goes much deeper than that. A few years ago on another forum there was an in depth investigation into the DL and it was not good, no mention of Tarpley. Tibet has always had a very elitist power structure (the pre buddhist Bon religion is something else also btw.) There is much to be gleaned on the DL if anyone wans to dig.

Some people think the political situation in Tibet had to happen to release certain energies and break the gridlock and secrecy of what was an unchallenged power structure.

I don't personally think there is a great deal of difference between this great costume religion and Catholicism. It's a patriarchal hierarchy where little boys are basically bought and taken away from their families. What does THAT do to a child's psychology? I don't think the buddhist religion IS a good enough mother or father ( and that was Winnicot I think, no offense Morgana it's great to hear your opinion)

Some of us are DONE with religion and that's all I'm going to say. Think what you want. It's a free world, er, well, not yet, but to me exposure of all false heirarchy is what will make it so, and of course the DL is human, that was never the issue, was it?
He might really appreciate having that pedastel knocked out from under him
and getting more down to earth.
Big changes afoot and some of it is going to challenge everything and everyone anyone thought walked a little closer to god than we do ourselves .

I am very much looking forward to it.

kriya · 02-15-2010, 01:08 PM

The tibetans believe him to be a living God..

Who are we to impose our cultural relativism on a people or nation....

The more powerful one becomes the more enemies one makes.....

Please stop bashing the Dalai Lama........

02-15-2010, 05:55 PM	#8
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? Hi Stardust, I think the joker and the fool are wonderfully important, I found this - its not mine but I thought it might help. The fool is the zero point, the totality of all possibilities. Comic Reversals and Frustration with Reason One of the main functions of humor in Zen is in trying to allow one to understand the absurdity in attempting to classify reality into categories. Thus, the boundaries formed between logical issues are broken down, revealing the frustration that Zen has with logic and reasoning. An example of this can be seen in a Zen anecdote about a Zen master who lay dying. His monks are all gathered around his deathbed, and the senior monk leans over and asks the master for any final words of wisdom for his monks. The old master weakly says, "Tell them Truth is like a river." The senior monk relays this message on to the other monks. The youngest monk in the group is confused, and asks, "What does he mean that Truth is like a river?" The senior monk relays this question to the master, and the master replies, "O.K., Truth is not like a river." We see here a serious message wrapped up in a humorous package. The absurdity of classifying things into little boxes is revealed here: Truth is and is not like a river; it transcends classification. The question 'Is it all serious?' is a very important one to ponder on! NO JOKE thanks for all the contributions

02-15-2010, 07:39 PM	#9
Agape Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 162	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? Not an agent no. Someone with higher attics , read ethics, and intents than to be 'a king' . His Holliness Dalailama ( resp. for many other masters in the East as well ) is a teacher of ancient teachings , some meant right for everyone , like the vast buddhist lectures on wisdom, meditation and compassion, other preserved by gifted few. Tibet has been physically and spiritually protecting itself from the rest of the world for a way too long, they managed to maintain peaceful relationships with their immediate neigbours , mainly China and Mongolia for many centuries , surrounded by snow capped Himalayas, they proudly called themselves ''Snow Land of Tibet'' . They've developed unique culture based on preserving knowledge. Though some of it is apperars now to be freely available in the west , and cheap enough to buy, it's hardly possible to understand way of old masters, unless you meet one in person. I doubt that Camelot Project is allowed on Chinese internet ( smiley ?) FREEDOM TO TIBET Freedom to everyone else too.... A

02-16-2010, 01:52 AM	#10
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? i watched a 4 part lecture on youtube of the dalai lama in london and thought it was excellent, it was part of my awakening process. maybe the old footage i saw of crowd control at a festival were more ot do with bonn than buddhism. perhaps he is under some kind of control where it was a choice of be killed by the chinese or become under the thumb of the cia as a pawn to get a china (under pain of death perfhaps). im sure he is being used as we all are.

02-16-2010, 02:28 AM	#11
Agape Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 162	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? Consider a situation of nation and a man who grew up independant and not bowing to anyone else than their elders . Tibetans are proud people of vast mountains, lakes, infinite space, their love nature, their homeland above all. Do you think anyone really wanted to go to India ? Many had died on the way through high Himalayas passes , many had died affected by hot south Indian climate and infections, exhausted, hungry and monks with what can be compared here to post gradual degrees were forced to work on the roads in India, to maintain their living and help to rebuild some of the monasteries , colleges , children villages housing hundreds of their children who lost their parents or were sent by them to India, in the risk of life , just to grant them education and to preserve their culture. They are people of very brave hearts and unshakable spirits . They were offered help several times, by several resources, descretly , but they refused , to preserve non violent approach. There was involvment from CIA who trained few Tibetan soldiers and sent the units to organize silent but armed uprising, in the 60th . The unit failed to organize anything, as the whole region was under brutal chinese control. Many Tibetans don't fully agree with his peaceful and disactive approach, the young generation would fight to get their homeland back , all means. The moral of the story ? Till there is single injustice taking place in this world , we all are suffering. A

02-16-2010, 12:12 PM	#13
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? The truth process will take a willing person to concealed areas of our own fearful emptiness, if you go far enough you will find your own fullness. I used to have a few altars, now I have S P A C E. (Not sure what to do with it sometimes) For some further information on Tibet, http://www.youtube.com/user/linuxgur.../0/bJGr86ikA3U and perhaps read the sidebar for links. It hurts to let go of sacred cows, but eventually you realise you don't have to deal with their dung, though apparently it burns well. I have no personal feelings about the DL, never ACTUALLY met him. I can see he does a very good job as a front person. That's the problem for me, while everyone is watching the show, I like to go round the back of the tent.

02-16-2010, 08:22 PM	#15
Agape Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 162	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? And that's the sad though inevitable ending of all old cultures, Tibetan nation and learning they preserved is slowly dying out in front of our and this worlds eyes and we allow it to happen.. We are digging out remains of those who are gone ..but care less for those who are living and what is THEIR message for humankind. They live their religion day by day and are in peace with that..they are well trained people, over time and most of the old generation agree with H.H.Dalailama, they are pacifists ..at the cost of their human existence, by peace they maintain integrity and they are not all able to face our type of modern civilisation, similar as my granny or my mum, but they are far older souls. The legend of Shambhala is eternal and it sais that those who had transcended their time will be reborn in faultless realms. Been there, seen that, should not speak A

02-16-2010, 09:01 PM	#16
Agape Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 162	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhXw-2aqJ3E I've only now listened to the initial video you've posted ( shame of me ) .. and I'm feeling responsible to tell you that 'the way Mr Tarpley presents facts is a scam. It's like trying to depict culture in the worst possible terms , so agrreable with Chinas 'liberation' approach. It's as if you start describing US now in very bad terms and all the dirt going on in politics and crimes and military regime whatever ..try speak to China, they might liberate yea He forgot to mention attrocities, tortures and mutilations conducted by chinese on tibetans as well as their own people ..and there's no control over what they do in their 'homeland'.

02-16-2010, 09:02 PM	#17
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? I'm not a dogma person, give me cats anyday.

02-16-2010, 09:14 PM	#18
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? Buddhism is not considered a "religion" by Buddhists. It is a philosophy and a way of life, which Buddhists practice daily. The Path of Heart is a good book to read by the DL. This man appears to be sentenced without evidence or trial. Best not to judge unless there is hard core evidence & not just speculation & cybernet gossip. Best to ask the question, why and what has Tarpley to gain by his attack on DL? Which camp is he in?

02-17-2010, 07:26 PM	#20
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? Thank you for your doubts, they made me research more deaply and oh boy there is plenty evidence of that the Dalai Lama is on the CIA payroll and that he helped organize a violent uprising. So much for pacifism The following articles also explain a lot about the abuses that the tibetan people suffered under the Dalai Lama which explain why they did not do anything to defend its kingdom I was shocked to learn that the Dalai Lama received money from the CIA, now I am speachless at the propaganda machine that creates "mirages" of inexistent saints Cheers PS there were so many articles that I just stopped reading, here are some examples but there are many more http://newschecker.blogspot.com/2007...-in-power.html http://www.infowars.com/the-role-of-...as-holy-cloak/ http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Dalai%...ys.-a053476012 http://www.greenleft.org.au/1996/248/13397 http://www.northern-iowan.org/opinio...arch-1.2085931 http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-53476012.html

02-15-2010, 12:15 PM	#21
morguana Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: sussex, uk Posts: 1,137	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? ahhhh stardust, you see i guess thats where we differ, i would sell my soul in order to save my people. right or wrong, there is never absolutes, there is only doing the best with the tools we have or are presented at the time. there is a saying in psychotherapy.......we can only be good enough mothers or fathers (klien) m x __________________ better than a thousand hollow words is one word that brings peace the way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart forum guidlines Avalon Chat

02-15-2010, 12:17 PM	#22
K626 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 421	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? So let me get this straight we think the DL is in the CIA's pocket cause Tarpley says so....Hilarious.

02-15-2010, 12:39 PM	#24
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? no, it goes much deeper than that. A few years ago on another forum there was an in depth investigation into the DL and it was not good, no mention of Tarpley. Tibet has always had a very elitist power structure (the pre buddhist Bon religion is something else also btw.) There is much to be gleaned on the DL if anyone wans to dig. Some people think the political situation in Tibet had to happen to release certain energies and break the gridlock and secrecy of what was an unchallenged power structure. I don't personally think there is a great deal of difference between this great costume religion and Catholicism. It's a patriarchal hierarchy where little boys are basically bought and taken away from their families. What does THAT do to a child's psychology? I don't think the buddhist religion IS a good enough mother or father ( and that was Winnicot I think, no offense Morgana it's great to hear your opinion) Some of us are DONE with religion and that's all I'm going to say. Think what you want. It's a free world, er, well, not yet, but to me exposure of all false heirarchy is what will make it so, and of course the DL is human, that was never the issue, was it? He might really appreciate having that pedastel knocked out from under him and getting more down to earth. Big changes afoot and some of it is going to challenge everything and everyone anyone thought walked a little closer to god than we do ourselves . I am very much looking forward to it.

02-15-2010, 01:08 PM	#25
kriya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 213	Re: Tarpley says Dalai Lama a CIA agent? The tibetans believe him to be a living God.. Who are we to impose our cultural relativism on a people or nation.... The more powerful one becomes the more enemies one makes..... Please stop bashing the Dalai Lama........

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