No Food - No Fear

[wegge]

wonderful thread
Dane Tops also stated in his recent interview with Bill and Kerry that he suddenly became a Breatharian for 3 months..that led me on the way and I hope this thread gave me the final push..thanks

Love and Light

[Peace of mind]

I have read of similar stories elsewhere. I do struggle in making myself eat constantly, I also have never been so regular in my life… sometimes when i eat I’ll feel a bit nausea. Strange, because I’m healthy and nowhere near looking malnourished. Just 2 days ago they pulled another LIVE person from out the rumble in Haiti….there goes the scientific proof that humans can’t live longer than 2 weeks without food. Breatherian (prana eating) was mentioned in some Egyptology. To add to that…some cultures believe in fasting for long periods of time while certain animals can even hibernate for weeks/months without eating. Perhaps we were photosensitizing beings, but, conditioning back to this way of living may be harder for most because of the amount of mis-placed thrust they put into their illusion.

Peace

[truthseekerdan]

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

To Swanny, if you want to live to be 98 believe me bro you have to start eating less and less.

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

Blessings bashi,

Thank you for this thread. I have been very interested in Breatharianism believing myself there is no need for food, only air, water and sunlight.

PaL



To: truthseekerdan

One way to achieve eating less is chewing your food, one mouthful at a time, until it is liquid. This includes any smoothie drinks or green drinks, and some people even say water should be chewed before swallowing. The food will be more easily digested since some of the enzymes are produced through chewing and you will receive more nutrients from the food you eat.

It may take 10 chews or 100 chews depending on the food you are eating.

At Macrobiotic Cancer centers, they require you chew every mouthful 150 times.

By thoroughly masticating (aka fletcherizing, popularized by Dr. Fletcher) a person will feel full on less food and not end up overstuffed or end up gaining weight by overeating. It also exercises many muscles associated with the mouth.

For me it is sort of a meditation at the same time.

Food should taste better the longer you chew it. If not, the food choice is probably not a good one.

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

To: truthseekerdan

The following was the original response to your statement early on in this thread. As an after thought I have been meaning to come back and share with anyone that many times what feels like a need for food is actually a need for water. By drinking a glass of water, the desire for what a person thought was food will go away. Most recent research indicates the body needs 1/2 its body weight in ounces of water (not liquids) per day.

Oh and thanks bashi for sharing your experience.

One way to achieve eating less is chewing your food, one mouthful at a time, until it is liquid. This includes any smoothie drinks or green drinks, and some people even say water should be chewed before swallowing. The food will be more easily digested since some of the enzymes are produced through chewing and you will receive more nutrients from the food you eat.

It may take 10 chews or 100 chews depending on the food you are eating.

At Macrobiotic Cancer centers, they require you chew every mouthful 150 times.

By thoroughly masticating (aka fletcherizing, popularized by Horace Fletcher) a person will feel full on less food and not end up overstuffed or end up gaining weight by overeating. It also exercises many muscles associated with the mouth.

For me it is sort of a meditation at the same time.

Food should taste better the longer you chew it. If not, the food choice is probably not a good one.



Chapter X. What Constitutes A Fletcherite

http://chestofbooks.com/health/nutri...etcherite.html


Historical Note

Horace Fletcher (1849-1919), an American businessman from Lawrence, Massachusetts, was best known for his writing and lectures on popular nutrition. His major innovation in eating habits, called Fletcherism, prescribed eating in small amounts only when hungry and chewing food thoroughly. Numerous celebrities of the time, such as John D. Rockefeller, Upton Sinclair, and Henry James, followed Fletcher's advice.

Fletcher was president of the Health and Efficiency League of America, subsidized research on nutrition, and worked in Belgium during World War I teaching refugees his system of vital economics: how to make the most of their scant rations.



American Food Fads

Excerpt:

America’s first food fad, “Fletcherizing” became popular towards the early 1900’s. The fad consisted of millions of Americans taking advice from Horace Fletcher, to chew each bite of food up to as many as one hundred times (Pollan 299). With Americans latched onto this concept, the food that they ate no longer became significant or a habit, instead the habit was to chew, chew, and chew more. “Gradually, the fad died because people were too lazy or too busy with other things to give the required 45 strokes to every mouthful”(TIME). No one in America at the time of the fad’s popularity attempted to challenge Fletcherism until a physiology professor at the University of Chicago released his results on his study of the theory. Dr. Harold G. O. Hoick concluded that his own practice of Fletcherizing had no benefits on the overall health of his body (TIME). Either way, Horace Fletcher became the first man in America to sway the diets of millions of Americans with one fad.

SOURCE: http://jmarbach.com/american-food-fads



Eat somewhat less but eat it more
Would you be hearty beyond fourscore.
Eat not at all in worried mood
Or suffer harm from best of food.
Don't gobble your food but "Fletcherize"
Each morsel you eat, if you'd be wise.
Don't cause your blood pressure e'er to rise
By prizing your menu by its size.

This little lyric was the popular expression of a fad which made famous its founder, Horace Fletcher, some 20 years ago. John D. Rockefeller took it up and provided a prose version of its message: "Don't gobble your food. 'Fletcherize,' or chew very slowly while you eat."


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0huUIh2tO

[bashi]

Long time ago i delved into the willful manifestation of realities around me, and I got my verification of being able to do that several times. But I also noticed that in this way I opened myself up to manipulation of the dark sub-space side of existence. My own issues like EGO, greed, lust etc. were addressed by these sub-space beings and they tried to lure me into their grip. So I stopped the wilful manifestations and focussed more on finding out what the unmanipulated reality-show is trying to teach me. I took the position that the unmanipulated show will address and hint at my real issues in a way that is most beneficial for me. That requires, as said before, a very good AWARENESS and boldness to walk the talk.
It sent me on a rollercoaster of extreme experiences in many countries during these last xxx years, which I do not want to have missed.

Let me give you an example: With a friend I worked out a very successful way to win in gambling, specifically Roulette, by using some ESP - “gifts” in a combined way. This included a powerful visualisation of winning.
As soon as we started to be successful on the Roulette-table, these sub-space influences started kicking in, amplifying greed and EGO. After several very successful visits to the casino, these influences led to a split with my friend. He was actually thinking to be the main guy and was confident to be successful by himself and that there is no need for him to split the gains. So we shared the common cash and everybody was then on his own. The circumstances of this split were already strange, but that was only the beginning. I considered to find somebody else, but dropped that idea soon. Then one evening I decided to try whether my capabilities alone were enough and I went to the casino. In the beginning everything went smooth and successful, but then somehow I started to interpreted my ESP-signals wrongly and I started loosing. I took a brake, went frustrated away from the table into a quiet area where I was alone and asked myself:” Ok, this does not work anymore, so what to do next?” Suddenly I clearly heard a voice at my right ear:” Bet on the ‘17’ !” I immediately turned around, but I was completely alone. I then went to the table and fought with my urge to put chips on the ’17’, which, finally, I did NOT do. The number which came was of course the ‘17’ . I immediately changed all remaining chips back into money and left the casino. I have never entered a casino since.
Needless to say that my friend lost all the money he had gained from our partnership, and more! He later came to me, apologised and asked whether I would like to re-establish our gambling-partnership, which I refused.
I was later informed that I had successfully passed that test.

Without being moralistic: Whatever wilful manifestation you are practising, you will have to be very careful.


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[Clarityofawareness]

Good point of view and I agree. Yet when is or should anything be classified as being demonic or low frequency or negative energy? Should my ability of knowing when people are going to soon die also be classified as negative energy? I mean, this ability happens and I actually know when certain people are going to die really, really soon. I can actually pin point when and sometimes how they will die. This depends on what kind of connection I have with such people and it varies. One thing I can't do is stop anyone's death from happening. Believe me I have tried and it never seems to work out.

The suicides are definitely the ones I've learned not to attempt any interference of. For example one lady, which in the act of doing it basically told me that she who have me arrested if I tried to stop her from dying. No, she didn't tell me this physically (like us being face to face). She told my higher self while I experienced her suicide planning and then finally her death. So I realized long ago that this ability is not here for me to stop people from death, but more higher purpose. I've died maybe one million times or more and lived that many times as well (past lives). At least according to my numerology/astrology charts and what I sense/know. Such things only help confirm for me who I really am, which are also all my advanced psychic abilities. So is some or all this experience of mine for the purpose evil? I don't think so. Either way I still I accept it.

Or is it more negative when I chose to experience a woman driving and running over my mail box several times & until that mail box is more flatter than any pan cake? I wanted a new mail box and to help any soul concerning their drinking & driving challenge. I connected to it all and allowed it to happen to me. This is what some would call remote influencing. Less than a week later she ran my mail box over until she could no longer drive. She was trying to back up into my driveway and turn around to leave my dead end street. I don't think that she was charged by me at least, but maybe the police charged her with drunk driving. Actually I deeply sensed that she has family in the police department and she wasn't really charged as much as a normal drunk driver would be. Do you see? That was just one of the events I chose being my reality. Especially before the whole event took place. If folks want to call me evil or negative for helping a drunk driver hit my mail box instead of killing a pedestrian, that's wonderful. Thing is, such people probably are not open enough to understand just who I really am or what I really know and understand. That's ok. Life goes on and we're all doing the best that we can.

I realize that negative and positive experiences have to do with being more oneness experience. How do I explain oneness when I can not explain it? It's something that you can only experience and to do so means to perceive life in as many ways as possible... and impossible. Well, at least according to those who believe that some experiences are just too "impossible" for anyone to experience.

Basically I understand what balance really is and I allow it to help me and others in life. In so many ways I prove that I can help balance various kinds of energy, so that all involved experience that energy as well. It's not about good verse evil it's about oneness or more balance. In fact I am starting my own business to do just that. I will give psychic readings but also offer other kinds of help as well.

If any of what I just now explained... in total honesty no doubt, is me being very egotistical then so be it. I don't see it that way because I tried to explain who I am and give as much detail. One thing is for sure and that is I seriously don't belong on this planet, lol. BUT I am here to learn, like everyone else. It's sad so many refuse to experience life by also choosing/experiencing more perspectives, yes? That's all that I ask here. Open hearts & minds.

Kevin

[Clarityofawareness]

Gambling for the right cause is always good in my opinion. One time I actually manipulated my states lottery to increase it's jackpot to $30 million and I manifested the winning lottery ticket for it. My goal was simple, to fund construction of what my higher self calls Villages of Light around the world. Self sustaining villages that operate on one law, the law of love. All of which operates with very little or no money what so ever. Some of these villages would even be visited by being of love (aliens). How ever it wasn't my time to experience this and I did not win the money. Although I did help raise the jackpot and get the winning numbers for it. I am now working on this project to make it my reality experience. If people don't chose to understand what the law of love is then that is all I can do to help them understand it. In other words, anyone who tells me that such villages will never work in our society, well, that is their opinion or belief and I respect and understand them.

Kevin

[Gnosis5]

Hello Bashi,

That indicates to me about turning on abilities and then walking away when things start to get too serious. I find as long as I am playful or just want to see if I can do it, like a one-time test, then I'm fine with myself as a being, staying simple, being myself basically.

I have one friend who keeps telling me how much he would like to be able to do remote viewing, and finally I got tired of hearing him say that and I told him I can get him to that ability. I knew that would shut him up :-)

Awareness, truth, decency, ethics -- it takes a lot of effort to deny that part of ourselves, and most of us fail,

[bashi]

I walked away from gambling not because i got an assistance, but because nothing is free. Accepting that help means you are bound to pay back, whatever the bill might be. I was not ready to take that risk. I have some history in that, it was an old trick to get me and I called it.

Experiences are always individual, so what is good for you might not be good for me. It’s too diverse.

Everybody fails one time or the other. As more bitter the failures, as faster the learning. I learned pretty fast…

In Yoga the ESP abilities are called SIDDHIS. There are many and they are all listed in the ancient literature. Check Patanjali’s Yoga sutras etc..
SIDDHIS are considered indications of spiritual progress, but it is also warned about the use of them. They are like flowers on the roadside, if you divert to pick them, then you are loosing the direction forward.
You would not notice a SIDDHA-Yogi, even if sitting right in front of him/her. They remain anonym for their own protection.

To use these abilities for someones own benefit and without inner rapport will most likely bring the downfall.

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I got tired of hearing him say that and I told him I can get him to that ability. I knew that would shut him up :-)

So what do you teach him?

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[Gnosis5]

What would I be able to teach him? He wanted the Siddhis more than he wanted to do the foundational boddhisattva or boddhicitta work. If he had been doing the foundational work he would not have been speaking so urgently about needing to exhibit a Siddhi ability.

[bashi]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

What would I be able to teach him? He wanted the Siddhis more than he wanted to do the foundational boddhisattva or boddhicitta work. If he had been doing the foundational work he would not have been speaking so urgently about needing to exhibit a Siddhi ability.

Yes, i also would point to: „Basics first“


Many people are living in La La land regarding ESP capabilities. They wish: “Let me read her thoughts about me! / Let me know the next lottery-numbers! / Let me see my blonde neighbour while having a shower! Etc..
I think it is better they can’t do all these things, because they would definitely derail their own progress if they could.

ESP can be a boon or a curse, but in any case you have to be matured enough for the task.

If these abilities are gained through a natural spiritual development, then you might be able to handle them, otherwise it’s a lot of stress.

Imagine a very spiritual, loving, gentle, 100% telepathic person caught up in a packed train while, beside him, a charged dispute about a vacant seat is going on. Can you imagine the stress of perceiving all the tensed up thoughts and emotions?

I attended a meeting in 1986 in a European capital. Suddenly one guy spontaneously exclaimed: ”Something terrible has just happened!” His eyes were getting wet and he was obviously fighting to keep his shape. It was January and the space-shuttle Challenger had exploded just that moment. Emotional terror-waves from the many children in the USA seeing their teacher-idol blown into pieces emerged from that event like a global tsunami. The guy felt these emotions and was still able to finish this dinner meeting.
Could you?

So far for La La land.


Clarity: Do you have a spiritual guide(ance) ? inner or outer?


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[Clarityofawareness]

Spiritually? As in some form of religion?

[FIIISH]

I have a question I was hoping someone could help me answer.

I understand how it is possible to survive without the energy we get from food,
but how is it possible to survive without nutrients or water?

Is it simply mind over matter?

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by FIIISH

I have a question I was hoping someone could help me answer.

I understand how it is possible to survive without the energy we get from food,
but how is it possible to survive without nutrients or water?

Is it simply mind over matter?

That is a good question fiiish which I have been thinking of for awhile now. I don't know the answer but how about a few observations... for discussion sake.

As long as we are in the habit of eating then are body expects food and tells us so when we are hungry. However, so much food now is filled with chemicals that actually are designed to chemically trigger the 'growling' or 'I'm hungry' response/sensation artificially. Most of our food supply goes in one end and out the other. So what is our body really getting out of the foods we eat? Seems really that we are mostly eating based on 'smells good' and the taste. And then we have to take supplements to fill in the void. So eating the food supply is just a waste of money because there is no nutrition in it, it has become just a habit or a social thing to do. Experiment yourself... go on a fast and then try and hang out with friends and family, virtually everything there is to do is surrounded by some form of food and drink!!!!

So how would the body get nutrition if you didn't take supplements because there is no nutrition in our food anymore? And as you mentioned what about the 'energy' factor? So how about this... as long as we are in the habit of eating our body is in the 'spend energy to digest food' mode. But as soon as you go on a fast a body mechanism makes a switch. The first day you still have the hunger pains, but the second day the body seems more heightened or on an alert mode, its like a different mechanism is switched on and the body conscious has a different outlook. Could the body draw in what it knows it is deficient from in the air we breath and absorb Sunlight and convert it into whatever component the body desires? Can Sunlight and Air provide a foundation of 'base' components and then the body will know what to do to convert the 'base' components into whatever nutrient the body at the time currently needs.

Our bodies are a chemical factory and can produce virtually any chemical known on Earth as long as the 'base' components are available or are not interfered with from toxins, pollutants, preservatives/gummy material, or allergic reactionary substances, drugs, etc.

And if you had the right kind of 'ingredients' in your gut to encourage the right kind of flora then wouldn't your body be able to grow its own food supply in your intestines through a balanced flora, which would include nutritional supplementation through the good flora growing inside you. Keifer grows in the dark, so how many other organisms could grow inside you that were cooperative to the body for a self sustaining relationship?

When something is absent desire is turned on to fulfill the absence, then that desire attracts the solution in whatever shape or form is necessary to fill the desire to fix the disharmony and bring in equilibrium. When its dark and we desire to see we find a light. Our body mechanism will find a way to attract nutrition through Air, Sunlight, and whatever it can get to grow inside by whatever means is available to the body conscious. Fear and panic of not having food or water available will obviously override this mechanism in most people because who ever heard of the body figuring out for itself how it will find what it needs.

In other words one could fast with the express purpose of observing their body to see how it will 'find' nutrition and water (water can be absorbed through the Air we breathe or perhaps just recycled within the body too). Or one could suddenly find themselves without food and water and panic based on the thinking that they will starve to death if they don't eat!!!!!

If someone were to really understand the mechanics of harnessing free energy that is available all around us at all times they could in essence magnify their own body into a powerhouse! For example... we walk around in the sunlight every day and for the most part we are free to be outside and the sunlight all around is basically harmless (walk to your mailbox get your mail and walk back inside and not get cooked...easy right). Now take a magnifying glass and position it just so, at the right angle in the sunlight and you can harness the power of the sun to focus it it a lethal weapon to burn leaves with, You get the point.

A plant converts sunlight into sugar proteins and grows, so the plant becomes solidified sunlight and all the plant needs is minerals, water, and sunlight to magnify, conduct electricity, and convert energy from one form to another all by itself within the 'reflection' of the DNA code it possess.'

Most of the population have had their Root chakra trimmed or interfered with (humans are being turned into 'hydroponic' beings) so they are not grounded enough to Earth in order for this process to function nonetheless be observable. So grow your root chakra back and see what changes take place in your body... no roots no grow-ageing. Yes there are some other details but we can see the concept.

Tesla never invented 'Free Energy' he just figured out how to harness, focus, and magnify what already exists, but don't tell anyone!

[FIIISH]

but how about a few observations... for discussion sake

Christo888,

That is an amazing response to my question.

I will ponder what you wrote....

Much appreciated....

[bashi]

Here a message from a Breatharian saint. He speaks against an impending slaughter festival in Tibet, the Gadhi Mai festival in end of 2009.
You can see him carried away by waves of compassion, which made it impossible for him to finish his speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG54_bRp2CY

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[bashi]

Lets assume this to be true:
The individual day to day consciousness (here called B) of Hu-Mans is just a tiny part of a much greater consciousness (called Higher Self A) which is residing in higher dimensions. Although B is not aware of A during a normal daytime awareness, it returns periodically during sleep to A. The purpose of the temporary separation of B from A is for the purpose of learning through experience. A genuine learning can only be achieved if B is not aware of its connection with A. The goal is for B to grow through this experience until it is able to merge with A on his own. The material world around B is manifested according to the learning-tasks to be handled by B, while it identifies itself with the body.
Thus the origin of the material world is rooted in higher dimensions, it’s a play performed for B to experience the outcome of its choices and to grow through it. The body becomes a cosmic Avatar through the identification of B with the body:

For someone with OOB experiences it will be more easy to follow the above thesis.

One basic force, borne out of the ignorance of the play at hand, is the fear of death of the body. The fear is borne out of the identification with the body. This fear is been used to play out numerous games, always with the aim to grow. It is also this fear which the “dark” side exploits to the max, in order to achieve their goals. In a way this is also part of the life-game, the game of conscious choices.

Now, that said, how is it possible to live without food or water?

Compare the situation with Christmas and Santa: Christmas is the experience of B to be lived through - according to its choices -, while Santa is the necessity to sustain the body with the goody of food.
When B grows up, it looks behind the deception of Santa by pulling his beard down. Does it mean that Christmas is now cancelled? No, but the experience of Christmas will be on a more matured level.

Same situation while living without food: The normal game-rule is that you will die if you do not eat. But if you are consciously challenging that rule, then the rule has to be changed. After all it’s just one of the artificial rules imposed by A. You will not die because of your approach, and due to your choice you will live a spiritually much more “matured” life.

On the physical level there is of course the question how it all works out in detail. In this level of discussion there is no distinction between nutrients and ordinary food, because the lack of energy food can be as dangerous as the lack of nutrients.
For example: Normally the blood-cells will have to be regenerated, because they have a limited live span. Does the live span change? Are they regenerated? If so, then from where comes the Nitrogen which is required to form proteins? Is it inhaled and absorbed? If so, how? And are the proteins built up from scratch?

I can’t explain the nitty-gritty of the effect, because we are reaching now a realm of divine science and I always skipped that class.

Why is it easier to live without food than water?
I think these are stages which can not be jumped easily at once.
After living without food, the next stage is living without water, which i consider as very advanced.
The following stage is living without air.
It is a well known phenomenon that at particular stages of consciousness you will not require to breath. This has been particularly observed with advanced yogis.

I know that all this sounds absolutely unbelievable and ridiculous for people with no spiritual experience, but if you can exist without food, then why not without water or air?

The mere existence of Breatharians is a very strong indication that the above mentioned thesis is correct.

For a fully developed soul there is actually no limit of what can be done or achieved.


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[lisa]

What a beautiful thread!
Thanks Bashi for the detailed documentation of your experience and all those who have contributed to the thoughtful commentary.
Now I know I don't need to worry if I run out of food/water.

[bashi]

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[bashi]

Thanks lisa.

There is a difference between knowledge acquired by reading and knowledge through direct experience. The first is just info, while the later is a self-realized truth. In order to be able to live without food, you will have to pass from info to true KNOWLEDGE.

As this forum comes to an end, let this be the last post.

Let me add two closing quotes here (from “higher” sources):

“The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you.
It is your duty towards yourself to reveal them to yourself and then do as you please with them....there is always a consequence.”

And

“Without knowing it you are expressing one of the most common lies of the spirit of selfishness: Selection is unjust.
This is no accident, for in a self-willed race the spirit of lies is dominant.
How are all people the same? Like cups and saucers? There are no two people who are the same - or equal.
The right of existence is variation, the inequality which in the convergence leads to expansion of consciousness.”

The time has come to fly back…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxf_...eature=related


Namaste

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[bashi]

Any communication with a

spirit in the woods/ Guardian Angel/ inner voice / strong intuition / teacher or councellor/ etc…?

Some source which you can refer to, in case


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[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Clarityofawareness

Gambling for the right cause is always good in my opinion. One time I actually manipulated my states lottery to increase it's jackpot to $30 million and I manifested the winning lottery ticket for it. My goal was simple, to fund construction of what my higher self calls Villages of Light around the world. Self sustaining villages that operate on one law, the law of love. All of which operates with very little or no money what so ever. Some of these villages would even be visited by being of love (aliens). How ever it wasn't my time to experience this and I did not win the money. Although I did help raise the jackpot and get the winning numbers for it. I am now working on this project to make it my reality experience. If people don't chose to understand what the law of love is then that is all I can do to help them understand it. In other words, anyone who tells me that such villages will never work in our society, well, that is their opinion or belief and I respect and understand them.

Kevin

Hello Kevin, I PM'd you re Villages of Light

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

To Swanny, if you want to live to be 98 believe me bro you have to start eating less and less.

Thx but I don't want to stay here that long

[Shaynard]

Outstanding Bashi.. I am truly impressed, not only with the discovery, but with your methods and diligence. Excellent work.

I eat very little, and don't worry about what I am eating when I do. My heart has always believed this to be true, regarding our past.

Thank you bashi.

In light, of love
Shaynard