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Old 02-04-2010, 09:35 PM   #1
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...if TPTB at a time did corrupt the Bible
then why not change the Glory and Gospel of Jesus
so we would not question the actions of TPTB
for these two are obviously at a discord with each other...
...Religions are reminiscences of a Divine Intervention
with a specific culture at a point in time
and serve as a preservative of this Incident for the posterity
guns are molded from the elements of Creation
and can be used for protection or destruction
the one holding the gun is responsible for it's use
soldier cop criminal citizen...

...lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible
Hello Redezra. The Gospel has already been changed, and you do not even need to dig into centuries of alterations. Just tell me which bible do you read. Mine is the TOB and Mary stays virgin in this version, what is yours?

Guns (or weapons) are lifeless, but the tendencies in the weapon market is making them every time more powerful and much smaller (Bush were proud to call one of them the 'mother of all bombs'). Following this tendency, one day a plane the size of your hand, traveling at mach 5, will hold the energy to blow up a whole city like Sao Paolo. Then, it will not matter who has it, the weapon becomes the threat... We are already there...

I am glad to 'co-corrupt' the bible if it is the way you see it. I have all wisdom inside available to see by myself what contradiction have been added to Jesus words... I know it doesn't sound humble, I am being honest.

I do not exclusively rely on whatever book, including the bible. I prefer to draw from my own inner well of wisdom...

You know, the prophets of the bible are just like the whistleblowers today. Some challenges the official lies that maintain a small group in control, some says the truth and some lies, some says lies and some truth. Just like in the bible...

Now tell me Redezra, you do not beleive Sitchin nor Collier, which whistleblower do you trust?

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Old 02-05-2010, 12:07 AM   #2
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About the different version of bibles, from king james to vaticanus. Here is a study about the subject. I am not endorsing any religion in particular. The text obviously comes from a muslim source, but regardless of the source, the study brings many evidences that any observer would see.

Some quotes: "The gospel truth is that we have no manuscript from the first century and those we do have from second century are very fragmentary and with a lot of variances than later manuscripts."

"The truth is that the differences in manuscripts are sometimes so gigantic and so successful tools on putting doubt into different Christian doctrines, that beyond any vagueness they testify to us about the corruption of the scriptures."

"One have to bear in mind that many manuscripts found in Dead Sea Scrolls are of the same family with Masoretic text, hence the Christian claim that Masoretic text is a medieval redaction done by the Jews to undermine Christian prophecies and doctrines contained within the Old Testament is a mere childish accusation. Therefore differences between Masoretic Text Manuscripts and Septuaginta Manuscripts are also without any doubt proof of the corruption of bible text as both families of manuscripts are at least of the same age."

The rest here:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/wp-co...d/they_say.pdf

After this reading, which version is "the true word of God"? At least, inner wisdom and Creation's presence in nature are not corruptible... Put the bible aside for a moment and take a look at nature, Creation speaks in it...

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:39 AM   #3
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The books and "stories" banned from the Bible.

A documentary on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3D28Ys-dp4

Some books and stories were classified, some chosen, some left out and some banned. Who made the choices and why...

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Old 02-05-2010, 03:05 AM   #4
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I am glad to 'co-corrupt' the bible if it is the way you see it. I have all wisdom inside available to see by myself what contradiction have been added to Jesus words... I know it doesn't sound humble, I am being honest.

lol I can't argue with that

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Just tell me which bible do you read. Mine is the TOB and Mary stays virgin in this version, what is yours?
fine Mary stays virgin in the french Bible too

as in the Venerable King James Version

what is a walk in the park for Divinity seems like miracles to us

Mary bore several children after Jesus through normal conception



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You know, the prophets of the bible are just like the whistleblowers today
lol I hope not

the Prophet is a mediator between God and a society at large

a whistleblower is just blowing whistles



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Now tell me Redezra, you do not beleive Sitchin nor Collier, which whistleblower do you trust?
why would I base my beliefs on a blower of whistles

I look to the track records of the Prophets the Saints and the Sages



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which version is "the true word of God"?
why get lost in details when one gets the gist of it
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:19 AM   #5
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Hehe, Redezra. I enjoyed all of your answers.

But tell me, I'm curious to know, what brings you here on Avalon? After all, Avalon is from Project Camelot, Bill and Kerry, interviews... You said "why would I base my beliefs on a blower of whistles. I look to the track records of the Prophets the Saints and the Sage". Then who are these "Prophets the Saints and the Sage", have you some in mind, tell me?

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:27 PM   #6
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But tell me, I'm curious to know, what brings you here on Avalon?After all, Avalon is from Project Camelot, Bill and Kerry, interviews

lol Im lost in the mist of Avalon


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Then who are these "Prophets the Saints and the Sage", have you some in mind, tell me?

nope just made it up on the go lol

I draw from the inner well of wisdom as well

and sprinkle it here and there

maybe that's why all the mist lol


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Old 02-05-2010, 03:23 PM   #7
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My understanding is that we dont have to "save" the world.
The greatest service we can perform to our fellow man is by making every endeavor to raise our own consciousness and in doing so we affect all else, a rising tide lifts all boats.

By all means share what we know but its almost a vanity to think me can cause other people to change their minds. We may be a catalyst that helps mind to change but to be responsible take credit for the change, I dont think so.
I dient change till I became willing to do so, then I sought out people books that would help in that change.
Where focus goes energy follows.
Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration.

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Old 02-15-2010, 08:05 AM   #8
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My understanding is that we dont have to "save" the world.
The greatest service we can perform to our fellow man is by making every endeavor to raise our own consciousness and in doing so we affect all else, a rising tide lifts all boats.

By all means share what we know but its almost a vanity to think me can cause other people to change their minds. We may be a catalyst that helps mind to change but to be responsible take credit for the change, I dont think so.
I dient change till I became willing to do so, then I sought out people books that would help in that change.
Where focus goes energy follows.
Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration.

Chris
All that is said here is wise ....
i thank you also Stephen
for a great thread ..
where love is there are no followers
love always rhythmmm
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:45 AM   #9
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Thank you both Onawah and Rhythm. You are both shining stars that shed some light on Avalon and in the world.

I had a conversation with Viking and I always wanted to put this here, it really goes with the spirit of the thread.

Quote: "As long as the person has strong intent with the visualization I believe the consciousness will travel until she finds somewhere where she can create a reality…so in other words imagine your consciousness like a stream of ethereal energy finding abundance to give to you…it would travel lets say somewhere where there is abundance and share some of the abundance within your own sphere…but what if your flow on consciousness cannot find what we are visualizing…how can we create a reality which our consciousness cannot find? …

If I may answer to this question Viking... Consciousness acts in diverse dimensions, it is everywhere in everything. Consciousness gathers creative energy around itself, like a magnet, and this energy shapes the reality of the soul according to the state of its consciousness. Consciousness includes the subconscious and deep into the seat of the soul there is the memory of All that exist. So, potentially, we can create everything, the travel has to be made consciously inside to create something totally new. That is why it is said we are so powerful, in potential.
The creative energy is what some call the void, the space in between everything. This space is essential for the creative flow of energy to circulates. Love is an energy that circulates and to circulates it needs at least two creatures, a loved a lover, in between loves circulates. Creative energy takes the shapes, colors, taste of the consciousness and according to this consciousness, it is manifested in the reality where the seat of the soul stands.

What one is visualizing and feeling transforms, with time, its consciousness. Once the consciousness reached a certain threshold of change, the reality around is progressively changed.

I believe our consciousness travels further than we can imagine and reaches out as far as the heavens and further. I believe it is a universal calling card. A universal gift and whilst we can achieve most material things with our minds there are perhaps some things that we cannot create within this sphere…so when our consciousness is sifting through the goody bag , so to speak, and cannot find the image we desire then the consciousness will travel to the cosmos/heavens and ask further afield for our request.

Potentially, the consciousness is not limited. What limits the consciousness are held into the Ego. This does not makes the Ego a bad thing, it is essential, but part of the experience of the quasi separation from the source. We are the source, who divided itself into myriads of beings in all dimensions to creates, experience, evolve. This "quasi separation" is source of all sufferance, but also the beauty of the Creation, in each creatures, uniqueness, and at the same time, the presence of the One source. When we realize we are not totally separated, but rather extension of the source, the journey becomes lighter.

Over the years as our spirituality has risen and our consciousness is expanding. We are developing our senses sharper and quicker than ever in human history. We can almost have anything we want. Well almost!!

So how can we raise our consciousness enough to stop for example calamities??

The first step is to awaken. It is to be aware. Aware of our creative power, and aware of the calamities. We can only change things that we are aware of. The focus can be applied accordingly. As example, if one part of the Elite tries to eliminates 95% of the population, once we know this, and we know our creative power and how the Universal Laws works, we can focus on a humanity united, happy, free, living in abundance in respect with nature. If enough people maintains this focus, the creative energy will be shaped accordingly and the evil plan will not come to be true. But if we avoid this information because it creates fear or all sort of emotions in us, or simply if we do not know this crucial information, then our consciousness will not counter act the evil plan and it might happen. The good news is that the will of Creation IS the natural flow of creative energy, it does ask for a tremendous focus to oppose it, like the evil plan, but if we join the will of Creation, then we do not need as many people to counter act the focus of the Elite. That is why it is said we are on the winning side.

Well maybe with all our efforts we are seeing the fruits of a reality that we have all been visualizing together coming to fruition. Our thoughts have created all sorts of realities here on this sphere, and to take it one step further our consciousness has asked for help as far as it can go. So what if all the starships up there are here to share abundance and create a new world for us. What I mean by this is that they have been tweaking our planet here, there, and everywhere to save her from cataclysms. Perhaps our consciousness has been answered by above and they will make sure that we all have an easy ride during this time of changes. There will be no nuclear wars. No cataclysms. Their intervention is the direct result of our mass consciousness asking for help.

I am not sure about "all the starships", but we surely shaped the reality we have today. If we are in a dire state, it is because of centuries of victim consciousness on Earth. Wars, oppression, heroes, saviors, oppressors, etc... My ancestors said we would not have volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquake, etc... if men were in peace. And this is a very profound truth. And this victim consciousness has been cultivated carefully by our Elite and some out world manipulators. The state of the planet and the state of humanity will improve when the consciousness of enough human will improve. That is one reason why I say so often how important it is to reduce the gap between richs and poors on planet Earth. And this day is coming, I can see it around myself and everywhere in the world. The reason why the machiavellian plan of the Elite isn't going well, this time... Is because of all these thousands of thousands of people focusing, meditating, praying all for a better future. We will receive what we ask for. And we can see the impact of these small groups, H1N1 total fiasco is one example how focus can disrupt evil plan.

Have we finally reached the stars?

As soul, or as human? As soul of course, we are stars, planets, universe, atoms, flowers and everything, we are ONE, we are Creation and Creators. As human, not yet, but we will my dear, we will, of this, I am sure. It is all about consciousness, because ultimately, what will save us, is our own awakening to our own consciousness..." End of the quote.

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Old 02-05-2010, 04:57 PM   #10
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lol Im lost in the mist of Avalon

nope just made it up on the go lol
I draw from the inner well of wisdom as well
and sprinkle it here and there
maybe that's why all the mist lol


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. And your mist is always very welcome RedeZra!


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...Higher spiritual energy will "save" the world through the desire of as yet a few to become enlightened.
Ones who are enlightened have a very powerful energy which counterbalances all the negative lower vibration...
. Ill keep this one with me, thanks Greybeard.

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Old 02-05-2010, 05:33 PM   #11
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Hey Steven, you haven't been talking to SaLuSa by any chance??

Sounds like the same language to me!!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...6&postcount=31

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Old 02-05-2010, 05:42 PM   #12
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Hey Steven, you haven't been talking to SaLuSa by any chance??

Sounds like the same language to me!!!

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...6&postcount=31

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It is quite amazing. I could not have written it this way, it's a masterpiece of Great value to me. Words are simply inefficient to express the gratitude I feel in reading it. Thank you so much.

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Old 02-15-2010, 07:26 AM   #13
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I have read the New Paradigm books and have seen/read everything from Alex Collier I could find on the Net. Both valued sources of information for me, as well as Emmanual.

There's so much to read on this thread, I will have to return and take some time here. But thanks for starting this thread, Steven.

It's really wonderful to have this outlet to communicate with others who are steeped in both Conspiracy Theory as well as Deep Spirituality. Ii is so much easier and more rewarding to have dialogue with people who are balanced in both. One without the other to me now seems very skewed and lacking in dimensionality.

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