Belief or Skepticism/The Deciding Factor

[Sideshow Shaman]

Start out with 9/11 truth, say AE911truth.org's presentation. Then have him watch the Disclosure Project's video from the National Press Club. "Skeptics" are usually just authority worshippers. So find paradigm breaking material that is authored by traditionally revered authority figures.

[SteveX]

Only 3 things bother me about 9/11. Building 7, Pentagon air crash and the so called 20 minutes early BBC report... I see no evidence, although it is widely reported, that it was actually 20 minutes before the event. Does someone have an unedited film with the correct time line?

Building 7 although unusual isn't inconceivable. Look at some war time footage of burnt out buildings. What’s unusual is it wasn't a blazing inferno when it collapsed.

Aircraft hitting the Pentagon. WHY don't they release ALL the CCTV footage?

It don't help when politics tries to cover it's own ****. This breads speculations.

[Kulapops]

We'd get stories going around school when I was a kid, that the neighbouring school were going to come over and kick our heads in.

When your personal safety is in danger, you take notice.

We waited for the attack. It never came. Who started the rumour, what was their proof? Did we change timeline?

Each successive 'threat' was treated with more skepticism.

My tip would be to treat any story that threatens your safety in an exotic way with similar skepticism.

Other than that, the 911 loosechange video is pretty good, and Alex Jones' video of the Bohemian Grove Owl is just sooooo out there that it would quieten any naysayers when they see what the people who control the world get up to on their weekends off.

On a personal note, I believe that the world you live in is the world you create for yourself. So be wary of populating it with beliefs that are fearful. No one knows which day will be his last, and no one lives for ever. The end is coming for us all, one day. Often the scare stories are just a projection of an inner fear of death.

Also, you don't need your husband to believe for it still to be true for you.

K

[feardia]

Originally Posted by SteveX

Only 3 things bother me about 9/11. Building 7, Pentagon air crash and the so called 20 minutes early BBC report... I see no evidence, although it is widely reported, that it was actually 20 minutes before the event. Does someone have an unedited film with the correct time line?

We watched the news report on BBC News 24 and the reporter was talking about building 7 collapsing, they then cut to on the scene footage of smoke and chaos and they were trying to get confirmation on Building 7, they cut back to the New York studio reporter trying to get some more drivel when building 7 began to fall over her left shoulder, it was blatantly obvious. I commented at the time, but most of those who saw the same thing tried to find a rational explanation and called me a 'conspiracy nut'.

The BBC later made a documentary about conspiracies and one program was specifically on building 7, they still didn't convince me, I must check and see if it is available on BBC iPlayer, but it is probably not.

I talk about this stuff all the time, most people think I'm crazy, but recently they have begun to listen and a few people have come to me seeking more information on subjects such as 2012 or aliens. I try to set them on their own path by showing them Nassim Harramein, unAsleep (thread here- give it a bump), the tether incident (I saw that live too, quite funny).

In the end we have to find our own truth,
one love, people get ready...

[feardia]

Here's the BBC trying to explain away the building 7 conspiracy, it didn't convince me BBC conspiracy files clip, enjoy

[Shaynard]

We know the truth, and can tell it apart from the lies, if we keep our minds and hearts open to all possibilities, and remain prepared for new information changing old ideas.

My wife is also very skeptical, and although she listens she often doesn't know how to participate in a conversation with me. I percieve her attitude often as eye rolling.. lol. She claims it's unintentional.

We are all doing what works for us I suppose. Although it can be a major strain on relationships.

Thank you for sharing your story.

In light, of love
Shaynard

[Fredkc]

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman

Start out with 9/11 truth, say AE911truth.org's presentation. Then have him watch the Disclosure Project's video from the National Press Club. "Skeptics" are usually just authority worshippers. So find paradigm breaking material that is authored by traditionally revered authority figures.

straying a bit off topic but... indulge me for a sec.

One of the great posers to put before someone on 9/11, although I don't think this is the best subject to start on, is this bit of film, from MSNBC.

This is between 45 min, and 1 hour AFTER UAL175 hit the towers!

Simple question: Why is it still in the air, @ 30,000 ft, over the mainland, headed west?

No engineering skills, math skills, knowledge of any conspiracy required; all you need is the ability to tell time.
Fred

[Logout]

Hi all, thanks for your sharing and experiences

Hihi yeah thats a really nice theme and its also very good when people are sceptical. So they will do their own research and get their own experience which is a good thing. There are indeed so much fantastical things everywhere from what we sometimes even didn't imagined yet. Also some dont wanna see and they wont see aslong they close themself from everything. We close ourself from things and others by fear. So a good thing we can do is not give only all our knowledge and wisdom but maybe a little more our love. I've been inspired so often from all of you people here who share so much beauty and love. We can give so much more with our love to ourself and also others. Yeah for some it looks simple and for others its the hardest thing in life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0ONyCBj6k imagine

[Sideshow Shaman]

Here are a few links to prime 9/11 truth videos of the short variety. Of course the reigning champions are the 1000+ professional architects of AE911Truth.org

WTC7 from north west side, vertical column of windows exploding out clearly visible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQeQi5XXfz0
(also has footage of North Tower)

WTC7 clearly visible behind the head of the BBC reporter discussing how it has already collapsed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK1V6S2cbo

Examples of top down demolition, which can be a hard thing to find,
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20985

Also worth noting, but I don't have a great link on hand is the "pentagon exit hole". Only a shaped charge could go through 3 heavily reinforced concrete bunker rings and still leave a circle. An airliners nose is soft by comparison.
http://images.google.com/images?q=pe...N&hl=en&tab=wi

I have been deprogramming people re:9/11 for a long time. And with great success too. The easiest avenue, imo, is controlled demolition via physical evidence. The military stand-down works ok too (the planes could have been brought down but the interceptors were ordered to fly at 1/3 speed).

Someday i will get around to participating in one of the 9/11 threads here. But mostly I confine my activism to public areas... in, ahhh, the 3D world.