What do you know of Ptah?

[gita]

I think the first female meier spoke with was Asket followed by Semjase who was one of Ptah's daughters. Ptah is a male and there's a picture of him in the above link.

[wilsonericq7]

Originally Posted by gita

I think the first female meier spoke with was Asket followed by Semjase who was one of Ptah's daughters. Ptah is a male and there's a picture of him in the above link.

Wow...I have work to do...and need some asprin too!

Does the work of Crystal links resonate with you?

[BROOK]

Ptah and the theology of creative speech of Memphis


In the first Dynasty, the usual iconography of Ptah, the god of Memphis, was already established in embryo. On the calcite bowl from Tarkhan, we see Ptah as anthropomorphic, smooth-headed, dressed in a high-collared garment with a tassel holding a sceptre of authority (never was Ptah depicted otherwise), standing in an open kiosk (or "naos").

His austere presence on the temple walls of all kingdoms is obvious and hardly deviates from this early appearance. Although the form of deities changed, Ptah remained the same. His form is a metaphor for stability, continuity, fertility and authoritative command, the main features of Pharaonic kingship. However, his name was not written with any determinative for "divinity" until the New Kingdom. The three phonograms of his name "p", "t" and "h" sufficed. Its most probable etymology being the root-word of later verbs meaning "to sculpture", "to fashion".

His head is enveloped in a tightly-fitting skull cap, that leaves only his face and ears to view with forearms emerging from a linen wrapping that moulds itself closely around his form (compare it with the Heb Sed-garment of Pharaoh). In the Old Kingdom, the high priest of Ptah was called "wer kherep hemut" or "supreme leader of craftsmanship", indicating that Ptah, "he with the beautiful face", was the god of skills, design, sculpture and the making or creating of something in general (also the art of well formed speech). In conjunction with "ta-Tenen" or "Tenen" he is linked with the foodstuffs & provisions given by the Earth. In the Heliopolitan texts, he is hardly mentioned, although Ptah is present during the crucial life-restoring "Ritual of Opening the Mouth" (performed on statues and the mummy). Ptah had however no other major role to play in the funerary rituals (except as the composite deity Ptah-Sokar, who ruled the Duat). Although Ptah created everything and was the god of the most ancient and holy town of Ancient Egypt (were all Pharaohs were coronated), he nevertheless had no personal cycle of legends.


Now..go back and read this post...and see what the connection to Memphis is

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...postcount=1902

This is a brilliant post BTW from 777.....as usual

[BROOK]

one more insight....on Ptah


A stone tablet was found washed up on a beach and reached the British Museum from Egypt in
1805. Cataloged as Stella #797, it was finally correctly translated by James Henry Breasted (in a
paper “The Philosophy of a Memphite Priest.”) The tablet was a record of early beliefs dating back to
pre-dynastic Egypt over 5100 years ago. It is worth quoting a few passages from it, since it has
philosophical and psychological significance in the modern idiom, as we shall see later. It concerns a
supreme creator god Ptah as a spiritual entity behind the sun god Atum and his ennead.

“Mighty and great is Ptah, who rendered power to the gods and their kas: through his heart, by
which Horus became Ptah; and through his tongue, by which Thoth became Ptah.

To paraphrase Joseph Campbell, the moon god Thoth is symbolic of the creative word that is
identified with the tongue of Ptah. Thoth also greets the solar power of Atum in its rising, namely
Horus, who is the living son and resurrection of the creative power of Osiris. Horus is here identified
with the heart of Ptah. The gods thus represent functioning members of the totality of Ptah, who
dwells in them as their eternal vital force, namely their ka. (remember Mer Ka Ba? )

“Thus the heart and tongue won mastery over all the members, in as much as he is in every
body and every mouth of all gods, all men, all beasts, all crawling things, and whatever lives, since
he thinks and commands everything as he wills.”…

“When the eye sees, the ears hear, and the nose breathes, they report to the heart. It is the
heart that brings forth every issue, and the tongue that repeats the thought of the heart. Thus were
fashioned all the gods: even Atum and his Ennead.
“Every divine word has come into existence through the heart’s thought and tongue’s
command...”
“Thus it was—by such speech—that the kas were created and the maid servants of the kas.
“It is these that make all sustenance, all food; all that is liked and all that is loathed.
“Thus it was he who gave life to the peaceful and death to the transgressor.
“Thus it was he who made every work, every craft...”

In commenting on the text, Eduard Meyer (in his History of Antiquity) wrote “… The myths can no
longer be taken simply in their literal sense. They have to be understood as a rendition of deeper
thoughts, striving to comprehend the world spiritually, as a unit.”
Joseph Campbell notes that whereas cosmic speculations have been rendered in verbal terms in
later ages, the normal medium of archaic thought was in visual terms. He writes “…it is surely
curious to consider that, although no scholar worth his mortarboard would be likely to eat the menu
instead of the dinner, mistaking the printed word for its reference, elementary lapses of this sort are
normal in works of learning treating of the ancient gods. …”

[SteveX]

Ptah
as any kid with a mobil phone will tell you... is text language for Peter.

[wilsonericq7]

Now..go back and read this post...and see what the connection to Memphis is




800 in the Kabalah, means Bow, as in rainbow of promise,the path leading from the underworld, or lower chakras.
130 = Noph the ancient Egyptian city Memphis

Is this right?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

Now..go back and read this post...and see what the connection to Memphis is




800 in the Kabalah, means Bow, as in rainbow of promise,the path leading from the underworld, or lower chakras.
130 = Noph the ancient Egyptian city Memphis

Is this right?

Yes....and the numerology ...that goes with it is outstanding
Remember your two pillars? and the number 11

And this post...

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...7&postcount=15

[gita]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

Wow...I have work to do...and need some asprin too!

Does the work of Crystal links resonate with you?

Only some of it. Like every thing else you have to show discernment - bucket loads. I'm also not a fan of Meier and his Ptah nor am I a fan of the Egyptian gods. The deeper you go down the rabbit hole...

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

Only some of it. Like every thing else you have to show discernment - bucket loads. I'm also not a fan of Meier and his Ptah nor am I a fan of the Egyptian gods. The deeper you go down the rabbit hole...

There has been a very convoluted past with Egyptian Gods...and there has been much corruption...it is always good to use discernment when researching this subject...as it can sway you in the wrong direction. for Example...the Emerald Tablets...created by Thoth....if you read them they are full of sacred Geometry, the Flower of life...the Halls of Amente. All things that ring true..but in the end...it is laden with what I would consider Magic spells that are not good...although they sound good..they were in my mind used for corrupt purposes....in the area of creation.

[gita]

Originally Posted by BROOK

There has been a very convoluted past with Egyptian Gods...and there has been much corruption...it is always good to use discernment when researching this subject...as it can sway you in the wrong direction. for Example...the Emerald Tablets...created by Thoth....if you read them they are full of sacred Geometry, the Flower of life...the Halls of Amente. All things that ring true..but in the end...it is laden with what I would consider Magic spells that are not good...although they sound good..they were in my mind used for corrupt purposes....in the area of creation.

You know from what I’ve been reading, even some of the scared geometry seems to be there to keep us in this dimension. The Azure teachings come to mind but am not sure.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

You know from what I’ve been reading, even some of the scared geometry seems to be there to keep us in this dimension. The Azure teachings come to mind but am not sure.

The Asure teachings..may use sacred Geometry..but math is math...and Sacred Geometry is creation if you allow yourself to see the pattern. 19.47..the merkaba is in everything...from the smallest cell to a galaxy....and can be pinpointed. It does seem to be the base formula of creation.

[gita]

Originally Posted by BROOK

The Asure teachings..may use sacred Geometry..but math is math...and Sacred Geometry is creation if you allow yourself to see the pattern. 19.47..the merkaba is in everything...from the smallest cell to a galaxy....and can be pinpointed. It does seem to be the base formula of creation.

Easy Brook. I did say 'some scared geometry' - not all.

Peace.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

Easy Brook. I did say 'some scared geometry' - not all.

Peace.

I agree very much with where you are going...I have seen the flower of life used in such a fashion to further the path of destruction rather than creation.....so goes the corrupt "Gods" of Egypt..in some sense..and the use of it for agendas that are meant to keep us slaves

[gita]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I agree very much with where you are going...I have seen the flower of life used in such a fashion to further the path of destruction rather than creation.....so goes the corrupt "Gods" of Egypt..in some sense..and the use of it for agendas that are meant to keep us slaves

That sounds really interesting. Would mind expanding on this please?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

That sounds really interesting. Would mind expanding on this please?

boy, I did stick my foot in it didn't I? So I should say that it is my view that this Ptah, first of all...got corrupted...as I saw it in this post...


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...&postcount=265

And the Emerald Tablets were used for the corruption of that power. And they are the basis of Sacred geometry, first of all, then used for, shall we say...."creative" purposes. And again miss used for the purpose of agenda and power.

The flower of life is something of great power, and a piece of it I believe resides in all of us. The "key" is to build it...put it together....and earn it in our own creative fashion. With full use of it...it can be the source of great power...and it can also be something if in the wrong hands, can be used to destroy or control. To get full use of the flower of Life...you would have to have access to the completed flower. Now the ones that would have that would be the ascended ones. Can an ascended one be used or corrupted? That is the question of the day isn't it?

Were these Egyptian "Gods" ascended ones?

I'll also add that I believe that one can have an almost completed one...and be given a template or duplicate...that will activate it..then what would you do if you had that kind of power, and were not in the full ascension being state? could you be used for nefarious purpose...to further the agenda of shall we say power tripping? Furthering such agenda...and used as a tool by the PTB? Food for thought isn't it?

[gita]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Now the ones that would have that would be the ascended ones. Can an ascended one be used or corrupted? That is the question of the day isn't it?

Were these Egyptian "Gods" ascended ones?

Stargate and the Ori come to mind!

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

Stargate and the Ori come to mind!

Indeed

[gita]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Indeed

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

All kidding aside though...I truly do believe there is a truth to it that is profound, and does reside in us...as we all have a spark of God in us...ie...the flower of life....the seed of life.
I do need to start watching Stargate more

[BROOK]

I will also add, that the information I have is from my own source. And for me to convey it to you, would be like "channeling"...as I do not believe that giving information in that sense is helpful. The reason I say this is, you need to experience it for yourself. You need to get the information you seek from within you..and not from someone like me. It is secondhand...and is subject to being "believed". It is much better to hear and see if for yourself..as you will not question it when you ask for the validation of such information. Make sense? I hope so. As I am not a "channel", and by no means do I have all the answers

But I do have a piece of the PI

[gita]

You is funny Brook. It always good though to direct people to information they seek.

Anyway, I need to apologise to Wilson for hijacking this thread. Lets get back to Ptah.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by gita

You is funny Brook. It always good though to direct people to information they seek.

Anyway, I need to apologize to Wilson for hijacking this thread. Lets get back to Ptah.

But questions you have raised are valid, and should be brought to light. So I don't believe you have hijacked the thread..but have brought up valid points of view....the very purpose of what it is to discuss any subject that is raised.

And the areas of discussion are of importance to the aligned thoughts of Ptah, and where his "creator" abilities were coming from, and what the purpose is...and the direction of the creator of this thread, and his questioning of Ptah, and what purpose Ptah has in alignment with what it is he seeks.

[wilsonericq7]

Originally Posted by BROOK

But questions you have raised are valid, and should be brought to light. So I don't believe you have hijacked the thread..but have brought up valid points of view....the very purpose of what it is to discuss any subject that is raised.

And the areas of discussion are of importance to the aligned thoughts of Ptah, and where his "creator" abilities were coming from, and what the purpose is...and the direction of the creator of this thread, and his questioning of Ptah, and what purpose Ptah has in alignment with what it is he seeks.

Well said...and thanks for the great read!

[BROOK]

Ptah the Mason's and The Pyramids

1st degree tracing board

It shows the pleiades pointing to the star of Ra. Then down from this is Jacobs' ladder. It also shows the pillars (struts) that Ptah made.



Building the Pyramids
An Overall Plan Spanning Four Generations:

There must have been some incredible incentive, some driving impulse or insight that instigated
such massive undertakings that strained the whole population of Egypt. The undertaking enlisted the
cooperation and support of the whole populace.
inconsistent with forced labor on such a scale.
There are specific relationships between the
pyramids, their geometry, and their history, to clearly suggest this.



Squaring the Circle

The circle suggests a time-like dynamic principle whereas a straight line of fixed length suggests
a static extension in space. Hence the tools of the sacred geometry were the ruler and compass.
And one way to reconcile the two is to draw the square whose perimeter is the same as the
perimeter of a circle. It is called squaring the circle.
There was an interesting book published by John Michell, City of Revelation, 1972. In it he
explores many correspondences between esoteric subjects, from St. John’s revelation of the New
Jerusalem, to the ground plan of Glastonbury Abbey, to Stonehenge, to the Great Pyramid, to
gematria, to ancient systems of measure, and so on. Without going into the sense or reliability of all
of them, a few salient features stand out as undeniable, and that deserve review.
A central theme of Michell’s book is that there was a sacred geometry that was passed down
through works in stone as a secret tradition of masonry. It may be connected to the establishment of
the Masonic Lodge but the connection is lost in the mists of history somewhere in the Middle Ages
along with the sacred geometry associated with it. Nevertheless the emblem of the Masonic Lodge
is the ruler and compass.
There is a common feature of the creative process that does not make rational sense. If we
draw a circle on a piece of paper the diameter of the circle can not be measured completely
accurately in the same units used to measure the circumference, and vice versa, and yet the circle is
clearly there on the page. For this reason the ratio between diameter and circumference, known as
Pi, is called an irrational number. It has no completely discrete value. It goes on for ever and ever
with no discernible pattern to the endless sequence of numbers. The diameter and circumference
are said to be incommensurable. It is like the indeterminacy principle of quantum mechanics where
the static position and dynamic momentum of a moving particle can never be known accurately
together.
The Great Pyramid is thus a monumental example of squaring the circle, since its height is
related to the perimeter of its base by the ratio 2 Pi. In this sense it is a monument that reconciles
subjective spiritual dynamics to objective spatial regularities.
Squaring the circle is often dismissed by academics as simply impossible since Pi is an
irrational number, but they miss the point. The point is that the linear regularities of space are
reconciled with the cyclic dynamics of the heavens through living processes. And the heavens are
dominated by circular motions. The universe is a throbbing living reality. That was the theme of the
sacred geometry.

As Michell points out, if we draw a scale diagram of the earth and moon so that they are
touching, and enclose each in a square, a surprising relationship becomes obvious. It is illustrated in
the diagram. The triangle with apex at the center of the moon and base across the diameter of the earth has
the same proportions as the Great Pyramid of Khufu. The circle scribed through the center of the
moon concentric with the earth has a circumference equal to the square that contains the earth to an
accuracy of 0.0588%. The earth radius of 6,378 km and moon radius of 1,738 km are taken from
standard reference tables. They could be out by that much given the irregularities of the earth and
moon surfaces. So the dimensions of Earth and Moon themselves represent squaring the circle.
Also the triangle that joins the square of the moon to the square of the earth has sides in the ratio of
3, 4, and 5. This same ratio corresponds to the slope of Khafra’s pyramid
Michell also points out that the two concentric circles are in the
same proportion as the blues tone and sarsen circles of Stonehenge.
It is a remarkable coincidence that the actual dimensions of Earth and Moon correspond to
squaring the circle.