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Old 01-13-2010, 07:27 AM   #1
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Well then I have to remove the blinders for you, if you read clearly the LOO then you should have noticed that he talk from the EGO(Ra), like he is GOD which clearly represent the world we live in.

Another thing for example is what he talks about the higher densities (7th)

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

Sure where going backwards how come your lose your idenity and memory when increasing your conscienceness. this is an error on it self, because your memory and identity is your conscienceness.

Is this not constructive criticism ? why do I have to do some ones elses homework. Reading something and not understanding is result in believing if you can't see this then your lost.


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yes, it is. I have read parts of it and I can see it that it is just another lie with some truthed..
I am fairly confident that you have not understood the law of one at all - and actually I dont really beleive you even read it seriously.

The law of one applies to both sides of the coin - it was sourced from a place that takes no sides - good or evil. It CANNOT be satanic any more than it can said to promote the worship any positive/good deity. It certainly is not religeon!

If you can't see that, then that's ok, you completely missed the point - move on - forget it - it wasn't for you. Please don't presume you know any better than me though - you need to allow me the right to make my own mind up without me having to wade through entire posts that look exactly like this:

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You mean the law of satan/Lucifer. A lot of people are still blind and belief in the new age religion. Because it so wonderfull when it is not.
That post is one of your complete posts. It is a typical throw away example of simplistic "new age" trashing talk with no real thought, explanation or debate, and it is a complete waste of time on this forum.

Try to make a constructive and informed criticism of the Law Of One- if you can be bothered - if not - move on.

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Old 01-13-2010, 09:59 AM   #2
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Is this not constructive criticism ? why do I have to do some ones elses homework. Reading something and not understanding is result in believing if you can't see this then your lost.
Yes it is, keep it up - first time I read any from you though on this thread

You don't have to do any homework for me. I read the law of one completely.

I don't see Ra's comments as being ego based. I don't really know how you can come to that conclusion. Is it because he says "I am Ra:" at the beginning of each response? That is part of the channeling protocol that was used. Outside of that I don't read anything that says that Ra is assuming the status of a God, any more than you or I should.

What is really important - and a good clue - is the absolute respect demonstrated for non-infringement of freewill, total humility, and a complete detachment and a take-it-or-leave-it stance for the messages. The messages express nothing but the desire to help us learn the law of one.

How can that be a bad thing? Moreover how can it be Satanic?

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Old 01-13-2010, 11:01 AM   #3
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Can't you see that the LOO is teaching lies about the densities. Just gave you example that he is lying. He teaching you Religion, like I said.

Another example Alex collier who is real person who had real contact with ETs explained already that you do not become a whispery cloud on the higher densities, which I already understand. what more proof do you need?

He also explained that there where ruinens found on 7th 8th 9th 10th.
how in the hell you go to war if you do not have a memory and have no identity?

Fight against what?

can't hate you because I don't remember I'm basicly death on the higher levels?????


And I did found somewhere he was talking in EGO as if he was GOD I do not remember which line preciesly.

LOO=good for the trash.

If we want make it as a race people better wakeup!!!!!being on this form does not mean your awake, most are still sleeping. Preaching religions

Yes you have freewill, but do you want get in the 5th world?
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Old 01-13-2010, 11:06 AM   #4
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People forgot to ask good questions!! thats where the drugs comes in to play.
Can't see clear ...... smoke mirrors......what is that.... .
Most people stop asking questions if they think it is wonderfull thats the problem.....

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Old 01-13-2010, 11:38 AM   #5
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Can't you see that the LOO is teaching lies about the densities. Just gave you example that he is lying. He teaching you Religion, like I said.
What? No I cant. Furthermore, I cant see how your chosen quote from the LOO demonstrates he is lying? How can you possibly come to that conclusion. (You cant really...)

The full quote means a lot when you read the question it is a response to:

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16.20 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.
Like I said if you don't understand that, great. That's fine. I do understand most of it and I cant see why it can be accused of being religious in any way.

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Another example Alex collier who is real person who had real contact with ETs explained already that you do not become a whispery cloud on the higher densities, which I already understand. what more proof do you need?
One mans word is not proof.


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LOO=good for the trash.
Whatever.

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If we want make it as a race people better wakeup!!!!!being on this form does not mean your awake, most are still sleeping. Preaching religions
I agree.

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Yes you have freewill, but do you want get in the 5th world?
Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I just do my best.

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Old 01-13-2010, 01:28 PM   #6
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Ra is not one person. It is a soul group.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:23 PM   #7
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Wrong!!!! I do understand creation, why do you think it is called creation. Because there is more that does exist on the higher density then in this 4th density. Higher frequency means there are more thing that exist on the higher plains, that do no exist here. Simple Your telling me I do not understand.

Sorry evolution does not go backwards. Next step in spiritual evolution is your going to be coming one with your spirit. meaning your going to remember all past experiences. Because that is your identity which can operate at a higher frequence.

How many ways do I have to explain to some one that when you add all of the experience to your self that it is who you are. You telling me that evolution is losing your memory and identity, that is what has happend on this planet. we lost our idenity and memory. If that happens your fall back to 3th (lower)densitity and do not go to higher density.

Losing your memory and idenity is the same as losing light frequence who you are. You can't exist on the higher density without memory and identity, because that means your death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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16.20 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

Like I said if you don't understand that, great. That's fine. I do understand most of it and I cant see why it can be accused of being religious in any way.

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Old 01-13-2010, 10:53 PM   #8
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The ra material resonated with me . Infact it changed my life in a very positive way . Im glad it has had the same effect on some of my close friends too .It made me realise that i am here to help , rather than just being wrapped up in fear and conspiracy . Whatever way you look at it , thats a good thing .
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Old 01-13-2010, 11:59 PM   #9
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The ra material resonated with me . Infact it changed my life in a very positive way . Im glad it has had the same effect on some of my close friends too .It made me realise that i am here to help , rather than just being wrapped up in fear and conspiracy . Whatever way you look at it , thats a good thing .
You have start with something ,but do not stop asking questions about the reality we live. Most people who get confronted with the conspiracy reality wil go in fear.

There is a differents with being in fear and tell the truth.If you can't handel the truth then your in Fear and do not want hear the reality we live. This is a Recepie for death, because you have to confront your fears to get out of it.

Then your open up to listen to anything and discern everthing you get on your plate, to understand what is realy going on. So you can prepare spirtual and pyshical from coming change and won't be a victum of it.
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:19 AM   #10
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i do not think ra meant that the point of evolution through the densities was just to get to the point of re-absorption with the loss of all memory...what i got from the law of one was that in the 7th density your desire is so strong to reunite with the source that literally all you want is to humbly give back the freedom of will of awareness that you were originally seeded from...i know personally i still have some other desires to experience before going down that rabbit hole:

here is the next question from the law of one:

"Questioner: Does this mean that you would have awareness of all that is?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would not be our awareness, but simply awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all that there is. Therefore, this knowledge would be available."


so you see...all knowledge is available to the one that is one

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Old 01-14-2010, 01:00 AM   #11
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Ok, ok mu I understand your point of view! now just get over it!
Believe what you will , and let others do so.
Don't think LoO is trash , in fact is one of the (if not the) greatest book I ever read , that does not make it a holy book I don't have to believe that everything is true, as about density's... let's get real what do we know ? We know what others say, does that means anybody is telling the truth or lying?

And what if is religion as you say? I don't see anything wrong with that, I've read The Qur'an , the Bible , Vedas,Mormon book etc. I don't have to be a Hindu to read Baghavad Ghita, and I wont become one if I do.

Now I've found the LoO to be of the books that make sense to me because many things that I think are true and concepts are all gathered here.I really don't think Ra is talking in ego and/or God like.

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"Ra: I am Ra. The path of our learning is graven in the present moment.
There is no history, as we understand your concept. Picture, if you will, a
circle of being. We know the alpha and omega as infinite intelligence. The
circle never ceases. It is present. The densities we have traversed at various
points in the circle correspond to the characteristics of cycles: first, the cycle
of awareness; second, the cycle of growth; third, the cycle of self-awareness;
fourth, the cycle of love or understanding; fifth, the cycle of light or
wisdom; sixth, the cycle of light/love, love/light or unity; seventh, the
gateway cycle; eighth, the octave which moves into a mystery we do not
plumb.

Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we
communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an
overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time
continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only
the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh
level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become
one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but
existing in the all.

Questioner: Does this mean that you would have awareness of all that is
?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would
not be our awareness, but simply awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is
all that there is. Therefore, this knowledge would be available."
In fact this conversation makes sense after all (to me don't know about others) and I don't see any superiority in Ra's answers or attitude.

Any way just out of curiosity, you're talking like you know the truth , please share with us you're view of the world and you religion (if any).Till now you were just fighting ower points of view with out making any.

So please share with us you're believes.

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Old 01-14-2010, 01:12 AM   #12
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ohh ya one more thing .If the LoO is evil Satan work or what ever that means that Bashar he is posest with a devil?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcq5tcOzito

didn't mean to be impolite just thought this was funny
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:42 PM   #13
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1 Free will
2 Love
3 Truth
4 happiness

What I read In The LOO it follwed all of this umm?
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