Miracle Mineral Solution

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by apple

Today, January 5, 2010, on his radio show, the second hour, he states "don't use MMS" because it is not pure.

This surprised me since on Conscious Media Network and Project Camelot the idea seems to be to support the use of MMS.

Does anyone have any comments on Deagle's opposing views?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and put in my two-cents.....
I did some research on the MMS verses Deagle's opposing views...
then I went and tried some products that Deagle lists on his...
Nutrimedical site. To make a long story short...it saved my life
literally. Deagle's answer to MMS is a product
of magnesium oil that sounded to good to be true though
there is a book to back it up called; Holy Water, Sacred Oil
by Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., PhD, which I have yet to get my
hands on but I will.

The magnesium oil has a plethora of uses/cures and he gives a lot
of information out about all his products (some of which you can get
elsewhere's for a few dollars less) I'd have to say I think he is spot on
when it comes to knowledge about the human body.

I think if one were to take the magnesium oil along with his diatomic
iodine with an occassional Allicin product you would be healthy live
long and prosper. Remember this....they (tptb) have had all the good
life sustaining stuff REMOVED from your food (if you want to call it that)
so most of us are deficient in these two minerals.

The guy is a genius with a photographic memory but I find his
personal religious standings more like a crusades warrior... a little
unnerving....so I don't listen to his radio talk show anymore.

[Karl Karl]

It is not obvious to me from what's posted above WHY we should not use MMS.

"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???

"Magnesium oil" - seems like the point there is that this is a better (even life-saving) product. Well, that may be the case (i have no idea), but that says absolutely NOTHING about MMS. If anything, that sounds like a conflict of interest with Deagle, and what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

If anyone has any more info as to Deagle's point of view regarding MMS, I'd be most interested in hearing.

Also, Mijas, 3 x 15 drops is the OLD protocol. Jim has refined it to be that you should take MMS in smaller quantities as many times as possible in the day. That works MUCH better because your body ends up getting much more of it. Please see www.jimhumble.biz for the latest updates.

If a Mod reads this, I think the first post of this thread should be edited with this info, because clearly many people reading this thread are still stuck in the old 15 x 3 paradigm.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Karl Karl

It is not obvious to me from what's posted above WHY we should not use MMS.

"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???

"Magnesium oil" - seems like the point there is that this is a better (even life-saving) product. Well, that may be the case (i have no idea), but that says absolutely NOTHING about MMS. If anything, that sounds like a conflict of interest with Deagle, and what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt.

The "Magnesium Oil" did not save my life...it was another of Deagles
products that did. I can't speak for MMS other than what I have read
on the internet...and it seems to me that it was for helping in EXTREME
illness and not to be a daily supplement....I am sure it is good.
Magnesium oil is not something to be taken orally..though small amounts may be ingested....and it is excellant for brushing your teeth...
it is absorbed through the skin (our largest organ) I dilute mine...and I do not use it on a daily basis.
I don't like to think that we need all these supplements to exist,
however some of us (myself) have self inflicted physical problems that
need some resolve and so I EXPERIMENT with lots of things...what works
for one may not work for another....there is POWER in INTENT....and LOVE.
Namaste.....Freedom

[Mijas]

Thanks Karl Karl for that link to the new protocol. I had been just taking it 3 times a day, I will take smaller doses more regularly during the day from now on.
I did take it more regularly when trying to get rid of a cold recently & this worked as it was completely gone by Day 3.

[haibane]

Originally Posted by Karl Karl

"MMS is not pure" - What does that mean exactly???

The pure NaClO2 is unstable and degrades quickly by absorbing water from the air, therefore the commercially available product has additives (stabilizers) which prevent that, as far as I know it's 15 to 20 %. However NaClO2 isn't the same as MMS, right? It is, as far as I understand the matter, the commercially available NaClO2 (hence not pure), in a particular concentration and amount, activated with particular amount of citric acid, according to the protocol - but then again, it is up to Jim Humble to define what IS actually MMS. He has demonstrated that it works, with the brands of NaClO2 he's been using, but it would be safe to assume that different manufacturers may use different formulas, and therefore advisable to check the particular composition before you buy or make it yourself.

The theory behind how MMS works is in fact more of a hypothesis, as no clinical test conducted by qualified and appropriately equipped scientific institution are publicly available to my knowledge (and a question would remain how trustworthy such research would be once made public), and MDs, in whose hands it should be in in the first place if we lived in a sane world, won't touch it with a barge pole. So it is also safe to assume that there are bound to be some contraindications and that it may not be 100 % safe to everyone under all circumstances, which was recently proven.

I have no problem with any of the above, as long as everyone who takes it is fully aware of this.

[gscraig]

The theory behind how MMS works is in fact more of a hypothesis, as no clinical test conducted by qualified and appropriately equipped scientific institution are publicly available to my knowledge (and a question would remain how trustworthy such research would be once made public), and MDs, in whose hands it should be in in the first place if we lived in a sane world, won't touch it with a barge pole

So many ways this statement rubbed me the wrong way. I agree getting some more appropriately equipped scientific clinical testing would be idea, but the rest is way off course in my opinion. Let's first address this in a more realistic manner as to how it applies today. Many of our medications and supplements are tested "appropriately" and approved by the FDA, but yet create death, harm, addicition and unnecessary repeat customers needing another drug to deal with side effects of the one prescribed to them.

My doctor approving something for me is a personal judgement call, because he/she may recommend the same drugs that may result in the following categories listed above. If you ask a doctor about a homeopathic medication, most of them would be clueless as to what to advise because they have no training in homepathics (due to this lack funding for "appropriate" clinical testing), and will often recommend against it. This is due to feeling there's no substantial testing...There's nothing sane about that in my world.

Pharmaceutical companies and the strategic incentives they sometime offer to doctors for recommending or using some of there products proves how much your health may really matter to some doctors, compared to profit.

The FDA is a repeat offender of failing the public in this regard, so MMS being viewed with less credentials, data, adequate testing and safety protocols is mostly a farce. Notice how the drugs the FDA approve have consistently surfaced as more harmful than the ones that are not.

The second leading cause of death is Hospitals/Medications/Wrongful diagnosis.

[yiolas]

Hi Guys,
I'm no expert here.
But I don't think that it is an either or situation here.
The MMS books clearly state that MMS is simply and only
a pathogen killer. It's sole purpose is to kill viruses, bacteria
and other pathogens that have found their way and multiply
in our bodies.
It is not a nutritional, mineral or vitamin supplement.
Now if you want to build up your immune system or other
system working in your body over time, then you take the
mineral and vitamin supplement route.
I've checked out Deagle's site and he's got quite of few
interesting products there. They are a bit cost prohibitive
though.
What did he mean in his radio program by "MMS is not pure" ?
What date did you here this ? We should go to the archives.
MMS is not produced by Jim Humble himself.
Jim only writes the books.
We buy MMS from other independant manufactures.

[eleni]

Originally Posted by Freedom

I'm going to go out on a limb here and put in my two-cents.....
I did some research on the MMS verses Deagle's opposing views...
then I went and tried some products that Deagle lists on his...
Nutrimedical site. To make a long story short...it saved my life
literally. Deagle's answer to MMS is a product
of magnesium oil that sounded to good to be true though
there is a book to back it up called; Holy Water, Sacred Oil
by Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., PhD, which I have yet to get my
hands on but I will.

The magnesium oil has a plethora of uses/cures and he gives a lot
of information out about all his products (some of which you can get
elsewhere's for a few dollars less) I'd have to say I think he is spot on
when it comes to knowledge about the human body.

I think if one were to take the magnesium oil along with his diatomic
iodine with an occassional Allicin product you would be healthy live
long and prosper. Remember this....they (tptb) have had all the good
life sustaining stuff REMOVED from your food (if you want to call it that)
so most of us are deficient in these two minerals.

The guy is a genius with a photographic memory but I find his
personal religious standings more like a crusades warrior... a little
unnerving....so I don't listen to his radio talk show anymore.

I have that book.......also have been using magnesium oil for past 3 years daily and love it.....also love the bath salts, Ancient Minerals sells both and are of very high quality......

[Anchor]

MMS hatchet job in Australia:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/deadl...0108-lyvl.html

A..

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Anchor

MMS hatchet job in Australia:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/deadl...0108-lyvl.html

A..

This quote from the link provided here, got my attention & I had to laugh;

the TGA.

''[MMS] is dangerous … It's not the sort of thing you should be skolling down like lolly water. These things are not without risk in terms of toxicity and overdoses or other side effects.''


What is lolly water? or does it mean holy water?

Don't you just love the part about toxicity, overdoses, and side effects.
Now let me see, what other chemicals do you know of that is legally & readily available to you & even considered safe...............hmmmmmmmmm oh yea, that will be PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS.

Anchor.....indeed a total hatchet job.