The smoking gun NASA a Fraud Proof Of Life On Moon

[Majorion]

Should we turn this half and half? Moon AND Mars?

Who cares, its not too off topic

One of my favorites is the Mars Metronome:



http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P2432R1M1.HTML

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Should we turn this half and half? Moon AND Mars?

Who cares, its not too off topic

One of my favorites is the Mars Metronome:



http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P2432R1M1.HTML

HaHa oops! You're right, sorry, those first few pictures are from Mars, my mistake, I'm in kind of a hurry here, LOL

[Majorion]

NASA sure are tricksters all right. Whether its Moon or Mars, the cover up is essentially the same.

Here's an interesting lunar anomaly, courtesy ALSJ, Apollo 16 Pan Camera frame 4623:


Note the triangular shape, and especially the shadow being cast.

Here's the same enhanced a bit:




Below I have outlined, circled in red where can you find this anomaly in the original:




Original image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.site-c.jpg

[Majorion]

Anomalies aren't always the only interesting stuff with regards to planets and moons. Sometimes natural phenomena (if you choose to believe in "natural") can be just as interesting.

Many people don't know about the Orange Soil, discovered by Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt of Apollo 17, during their EVA lunar excursion of the Tauras Littrow valley, they stumbled across this rather strange soil, near/at an area named "Shorty Crater", and there's something else, but I'll get to that a bit later.

Here's an original photograph, other than resizing for suitable forum display, I have not done anything to the image:


AS17-137-20984

Now below, when you turn up the color, reduce NASA's usual excessive brightness, turn up the contrast, and bingo, here's what you get:



Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20984HR.jpg

You see these stunning colors. Colors that most people wouldn't expect to see, especially on the Moon.

Notice in the foreground, again, that's Shorty Crater, where Mr. Hoagland discovered "datas head" in a succeeding panoramic sequence of the area, it sure puts the skeptics in a bad mood, but I like it:



Note; this is my own enhancement, from frame 21005. Its up to you believe its a head or not, but if you check most of the frames for roll 137, the head is there every time, even from different angles, it's always appears a "head". That's why its a brilliant discovery, IMO.

Here are direct links to all the high resolution frames showing this orange soil, for those interested, there are probably more, but this should do for now:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20984HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20985HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20986HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20987HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20988HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20989HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20990HR.jpg


More to come later...

[Dantheman62]

Thanks again! I really like this one you posted in the moon anomoly thread!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17996


This is probably the best LO anomaly ever:

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Thanks again! I really like this one you posted in the moon anomoly thread!

Thanks for your interest.

I almost forgot about that thread, should probably repost that stuff here, but I'm trying to make some order of all this.

I'm trying to make it convincing for newcomers, in the other thread the majority there were already convinced so it was more like playing around.

Lets up the notch a bit

[Majorion]

Here's another one with a very odd background. Apollo 14



Or should I say 'backdrop'? Could this actually be evidence of a hoax?

I don't know.

Original found here: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...4-64-9193.html

[Majorion]

One of the most fascinating images I've ever seen, is no longer available on the web, I believe it was a leaked image, on the infamous "spacearchive.net".

But spacearchive, as of the last few days, no longer exists!

Thankfully, I downloaded the image only a few weeks before the archive went offline without notice.

So if anyone would like the original, please just contact me PM or whatever and I'll try to hook you up.

This is another of Hoagland's incredible discoveries, and you talk about ancient ruins, this is one of those good ones, a real shame the source is gone now:





AS17-136-20767

Credit: EnterpriseMission for the enhanced photos.
Source: http://www.enterprisemission.com/NPC-Russia2.htm

[Majorion]

From the other thread.

Enlarged crop section from classic Apollo 10 image of King Crater:


AS10-30-4356
Credit: NASA

Appears to be a towering structure of some sort.

A refinery perhaps?

Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photo...10-30-4356.jpg

[Majorion]

Getting back to Mars, just for a bit...

We all know NASA tamper the color of Mars images.

Doesn't mean you won't find a real gem, that shows what the sky might really look like on a Martian sunset:



Notice the hint of blue in there, where did that come from?

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07997
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA07997.tif (Full-Res TIFF, 14 meg)

[Humble Janitor]

I love these pictures and I don't wish to debate about hoaxers, etc. I just like to look at nice pictures!

[Majorion]

Should probably include the newest NASA moon image, recently released.

Apparently, they're not gonna try to hide the colors of the Moon much longer:



Original Source

[Humble Janitor]

Whoa! It looks like Earth by a bit!

[Majorion]

Lets get back to the anomalies, shall we.



Cropped section from AS16-106-17336

A cylindrical object appears in the background, arrowed.


From the same image, what exactly is reflected in the visor, the other astronaut photographing? or something else?




Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-106-17336HR.jpg


More to come later... hopefully

[Majorion]

Here's one I've never posted on any forum, its certainly subject to interpretation, but my opinion is, after countless enhancements and really studying this image for a while, I concluded simply, this could be possibly another confirmation of the lunar ruins:

This is the original:



Heres a simple enhancement, the background suddenly shows this really weird "stuff":




Now this is one of the areas you should pay close attention to, and note that this has not been enlarged, rather this is a crop from the original full size:



Is there something really there? Are these shards or glasslike remnants from ancient inhabitants of the Moon? who knows.

Original HiRES can be found here: http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1949


I'm done for today, hopefully more tomorrow or whenever...

[Humble Janitor]

Looks like shrub cover or something.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Looks like shrub cover or something.

Interesting idea, but I think you're focusing a bit much on the 'green stuff'. Could be an airbrush to conceal the anomalies for all we know. Color is not too big an indicator with images like these.

Look at the shapes, the structures, the symmetries, if at all there. That's the kind of thing you look for.

Example, this is from the same image.

Now, directly above the astronaut, you might notice something....



Here I've circled in red what I find very interesting:



I recommend you download the full size image yourself, if you haven't already. Then turn up the gamma (or, backlight gain) maximum, up the contrast a bit, and look very closely.

Thanks for the shrubs idea .You are not the first to suggest that same thing. I have other images for that stuff BTW

Cheers

[Humble Janitor]

I can see the symmetry as you've highlighted it. Sorry, I am just very tired from work and unable to sleep so there are things I cannot see as easily.

Good photos and keep up the good work.

[Philbert]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Getting back to Mars, just for a bit...

We all know NASA tamper the color of Mars images.

Doesn't mean you won't find a real gem, that shows what the sky might really look like on a Martian sunset:



Notice the hint of blue in there, where did that come from?

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07997
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA07997.tif (Full-Res TIFF, 14 meg)

Ok I will join in the off topic showcase.
Let me know is these qualify for a real Gem

This area is near the region of Cydonia on Mars.
Download the original Satellite Image here:

The image is about 12.3 megs.

http://carlotto.us/demos/geCydoniaImages/MI48N330E.jpg

These are just a few of the many I have cleaned up.

Location Mars-
N34 deg 30

E 91 Deg



This is a crude land map below.


Mars Is indeed inhabited.



If you study this image closely you can see Saucer shaped craft at the bottom of the Land Bridge. There are 3-4 Saucer craft in what I like to call the parking area. The land bridge is really a set of steps leading up form the parking area to a gate house that is really a mechanical room for calling down the trolley cart to get to the top of the hill.
I know this may sound funny at first but anyone can download these images and zoom in to determin for themselves the truth in my statements.
I have thoroughly investigated these images.






Here are a few enlargments of this area.

These are the saucer shaped vehicles at the bottom of the Land Bridge.


The trolley or lift cart and mechanical area.



Next










A blow up of child on knees holding animal, with another animal at the Childs back. Possibly a dog is standing behind the child on knees, Possibly a cat the child is holding out in their hands. If you look carefully you can see the hind legs of the cat and it's tail.


The following images are also taken from the same satellite image about 2-3 miles in estimate from the above estate.
You can see transportation, structures, housing, and yes Humans.







Closer look at the structure.
It has a pedestal that appears the structure could rotate to adjust for sun.
or this could be a defense structure.









These objects can also be found in the satellite image.
Transportation can be seen with a arched walkway leading to the house in the background.

[Majorion]

Oh yes Philbert, the original image there is a really good find on your part, definitely qualifies a Gem.

The Cydonia region itself, there's a city under there, and some of the strange shapes you outlined in the beginning, those are possibly ruins and the geometries are quite bizarre.

Honestly, that image is very very good, but only the things you've zoomed in super close I don't interpret the same or agree. Like when you interpret saucers or people or terminals; that sorta thing.

It very well could be that what you describe is close to the concept, but take a step back, instead of zooming in on objects, I think the whole image from a birds eye view speaks for itself. There's some artificial looking stuff down there, I've seen the Cydonia IR and analyzed the raw data myself, there's no doubt in my mind, at least.

All in all, ships or not, I can see what appears to be buildings down there.

BTW, hope you find this helpful, heres a list I compiled of almost all the links you can find Mars imagery:

http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/ (HiRISE Imaging)
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/hirise/ (HiRISE Imaging Science Experiment)
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/ (HiRISE Online Image Viewer)
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ (HiRISE Mars Reconnaisaince Orbiter)

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/Mars (Assorted .TIFF HiRes Images)

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/ (Mars Global Surveyor)

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/images.html (Spirit/Opportunity)
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/images.html (Spirit/Opportunity)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/gallery/images.html (Mars Odyssey)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/gallery/images.html (Mars Global Surveyor)

http://themis.asu.edu/ (Mars Odyssey Themis)
http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/mars.html (Cornell Mars Image Gallery)
http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogMars.htm (Soviet Mars Images)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...th_images.html (Mars Pathfinder Images)
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/mpf/image-arc.html (Mars Pathfinder Directory)

http://mars.esa.int/ (ESA - Mars Express)

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/gallery.php (Phoenix Mars Gallery)
http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/ (PDS MGS/MOC Image Collection)
http://crism.jhuapl.edu/index.php (Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars)

[TRANCOSO]

ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS PIX!!!
Thanx!

[Philbert]

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS PIX!!!
Thanx!

Glad you enjoy them.
These type are rare on the internet.
I found and worked on these myself, took me about a month.
That was because I was just learning to work with the images. The original satellite image of this area has much more in it. To anyone looking to do there own finds this is a good one to look into.

Here is a link to my archives site.
The site is a work in progress.
But the information and images may be of interest to you also.

http://oursolarsystemthetruthishere.webs.com

Oh anyone is welcome to use any of these images.
In fact I encourage it to anyone that can use them in creating other presentations to get this information out.

[Majorion]

For those unaware, this following is an image from Apollo 14, called "Mitchell Under Glass".

There are two versions.

One is the original NASA version from their main images website (Apollo Lunar Surface Journal) found here: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-66-9301HR.jpg

The other version is the pre-generation print of the same image; a non 'sanitized' print saved from destruction by Kenneth Johnston; who was in charge LRL at NASA. And was enhanced with modern image processing software.


Below is color enhanced ALSJ version:



Enhanced BW desaturated ALSJ version:






Below is the Johnston version, the non 'sanitized' lunar sky:




And finally, here's a close up of what is probably the most interesting area, showing the slanted structures, of the ancient lunar ruins:




For more information, visit here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/NPC-Russia.htm
http://www.enterprisemission.com/NPC-Russia2.htm

[Philbert]

[QUOTE=Majorion;214216]Oh yes Philbert, the original image there is a really good find on your part, definitely qualifies a Gem.

The Cydonia region itself, there's a city under there, and some of the strange shapes you outlined in the beginning, those are possibly ruins and the geometries are quite bizarre.

Honestly, that image is very very good, but only the things you've zoomed in super close I don't interpret the same or agree. Like when you interpret saucers or people or terminals; that sorta thing.

It very well could be that what you describe is close to the concept, but take a step back, instead of zooming in on objects, I think the whole image from a birds eye view speaks for itself. There's some artificial looking stuff down there, I've seen the Cydonia IR and analyzed the raw data myself, there's no doubt in my mind, at least.


I find your Honesty statement to be offensive and to be Honest with you it puts me on the defense.
Especially when you have no where near the hours I have in interpretation into these images.
So when you say in the same sentence “there are cities under there” then go on to pretend you can interpret the objects in the images as Ruins. Show me the cities you claim so I can interpret them.
This may sound a little rude, but you have to take a back seat on your interpretation of what you think I already know.


I discovered these anomalies, I put several thousands of hours into cropping ,enhancing and interpretation that took over three months.

You have viewed them for less than one day, and you are going to tell me I don't understand what I am looking at?

Of course you don't have to believe what I say they are, but maybe you should keep what you think I don't know to yourself until you are 100% positive you know what you are talking about.

Sorry I have to be this way, but this is not a contest to me.
I would have taken your statement a little different if you just would have said you don't see them.
But really non of us should be making comments to degrade a persons research until we have sufficient amount of proof that we can say " hey I figured out what these are, here is what I came up with.

Sorry again for being so harsh, but it felt as though you stuck a thorn in my side.
I'm sure you would feel the same way if someone said they don't interpret your research as you have come to understand it. Especially without a substantial explanation.


I also will disagree with your birds eye view. Yes I can agree that at the birds eye view there is already enough in the images to suggest an importance. Zooming in is important to get a good look at the surroundings. I really should not need to explain myself to you. Bottom line is I brought these images to you, if you see a different interpretation and you don't interpret them as I do, then you should have given your interpretation.
Otherwise you have created the offence not me.



But as far as these being ruins, not a chance.
These were in fact inhabited when the images where taken and probably still are today.


Yes there are humans in the images along with animals. As far as a TERMINAL , I said nothing of the sort in the post. You got that from Dantheman62.

This old theory of everything that looks like a building or structure is ruins is common place in mainstream media and science with those who are uncertain of jumping into the unknown.
That is what these images are to you unknown.
So please next time be a little more conservative in your thoughts before you text them here for everyone to read.

The only reason I have come off like this is to defend my own position and research.

Hey I don't mind working with others on interpretation but don't try and undermined my knowledge unless you have proof positive of what you are talking about.

I have came to this forum to give to others what they might need to understand the ufo phenomenon or life on other planets as I have found in My own research.

If you question it do so with a question rather than a statement.
If I am wrong in what I have put out as an interpretation, then I would expect to be shown where I am wrong. Not just say your wrong.

I would suggest you analyze the raw image yourself, if you find something different than what I have interpreted the images as, show me.
But don’t come out here as thought you know everything about every anomaly that is posted.


Now I must apologize most sincerely as I am not intending to offend you in this matter, Just letting you know where you have made your mistake.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Philbert

You have viewed them for less than one day, and you are going to tell me I don't understand what I am looking at?

No, no, not at all.

I apologize for the misunderstanding, about what I was saying, it was NOT an effort to undermine your conclusions at all, nor was it meant to be offensive in the least. More like a colleague sharing his model/view applied to your discovery, I'm sure we won't see eye to eye, and everyone's different, but that's the whole point.

I know many many people who don't agree with me in anything, but they're friends nevertheless, and our research is always shared.

I'm sorry if you were offended, it was most certainly not my intention.

So when you say in the same sentence “there are cities under there” then go on to pretend you can interpret the objects in the images as Ruins. Show me the cities you claim so I can interpret them.

Yes I agree. There are two models here:

One says there is intelligent life thriving on Mars right now and always...

The other model is ancient. Which is what I ascribe to, simply because I found the various IR data too compelling.

Here's the main Cydonia analysis I refer to, please visit these links:
http://www.keithlaney.net/BullittsIR...redimaging.htm
http://www.enterprisemission.com/ir_analysis.html









Also, highly recommend you download this .TIF image, http://www.enterprisemission.com/ima.../ghost-vis.tif , open with image editor, and turn up saturation maximum.

If you haven't tried that out before; its way cool. Just give it a shot, you'll enjoy it for sure.

Cheers