Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

Originally Posted by Sanat

If it is not fearbased it is not what I mean by "survivor mode". I myself feel no inner urge to make "survivor" preperations at all. I am more in "celebration mode" hehe! The way I see it humanity has transcended the "dire predictions" scenario a while ago. Now things will play out as they must...

However, I am just me in this time/place. I am certainly not saying that if you (meaning anyone) really feel inner urges to prepare etc. that you should not do so. By all means! My main point was/is that fear is the worst enemy, and it can easily take over too much of ones life and blind people to what is really on the horizon. A question to ask oneself:

Would I feel any urge to prepare had I not read all sorts of "dire predictions" on the internet etc.? In other words...are the urges coming from your clarity/heart/source-connection, or from the easily influenced and conditioned ego/mind?

This being said it is always good to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best right?

Do you childproof your home, wear your seatbelts, or carry insurance of
any kind?

This is provident living.

Keeping a can of kerosene next to your hurricane lanterns and a fifty pound
bag of rice is more of the same.

It isn't about being afraid. When you are prepared what many view as a
disaster can be an adventure. My brother just weathered hurricane Ike. He
took the time and care to tie his boat down like he was serious. It took all
day and lots of webbing not rope. He came out with a one inch
dent in a marina that was devastated. You gotta see it to believe the damage. Is this being a panic merchant?

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle

Do you childproof your home, wear your seatbelts, or carry insurance of
any kind?

This is provident living.

Keeping a can of kerosene next to your hurricane lanterns and a fifty pound
bag of rice is more of the same.

It isn't about being afraid. When you are prepared what many view as a
disaster can be an adventure. My brother just weathered hurricane Ike. He
took the time and care to tie his boat down like he was serious. It took all
day and lots of webbing not rope. He came out with a one inch
dent in a marina that was devastated. You gotta see it to believe the damage. Is this being a panic merchant?

I have no interest in these kinds of games. Take that business elsewhere. And for the record: No. Being real is not being a panic merhcant. This should be pretty obvious from my post above which you quoted and hopefully read carefully also... In case you did not see it here I quote again:

If it is not fearbased it is not what I mean by "survivor mode".

[Gnosis5]

I can see both viewpoints and some people exist at a high enough vibration level that they really don't have to prepare in the same way that we who exist at lower vibrational levels feel compelled to.

Do what compels you if that is what you want and let the other man/woman have their version of the game, for it is all a game we play and we choose the level we wish to play at.

I am raising my vibrational levels through spiritual processes. What are you doing to raise your vibrational levels, I'm interested in knowing.

Originally Posted by Sanat

I have no interest in these kinds of games. Take that business elsewhere. And for the record: No. Being real is not being a panic merhcant. This should be pretty obvious from my post above which you quoted and hopefully read carefully also... In case you did not see it here I quote again:

[chelmostef]

This is a intreasting thread.
We are animals and fear has helped in our evolution.
I think that there is different levals of fear, the rabbit in the head lights fear frozen in terror.
Run away fear.
The get on a bike over take everyone and nearly kill yourself fear. Which some find an enjoyable fear.
Put your seat belt on, even though I wont crash fear.
Dont go outside as the sky might fall down fear.

But for me, I dont fear what could potentially happen I will embrace it. It could be a good thing to happen. Can you turn somthing evil into somthing good? I can, It will expose people for who they realy are.
If there is a genicide of people, or a cull of humans. I have prepared myself so I will not get caught in the fray. It is not though fear that I do this but an enjoyable experience expanding my knowledge of things that I didnt know before.

[Seva]

Originally Posted by chelmostef

This is a intreasting thread.
We are animals and fear has helped in our evolution.
I think that there is different levals of fear, the rabbit in the head lights fear frozen in terror.
Run away fear.
The get on a bike over take everyone and nearly kill yourself fear. Which some find an enjoyable fear.
Put your seat belt on, even though I wont crash fear.
Dont go outside as the sky might fall down fear.

But for me, I dont fear what could potentially happen I will embrace it. It could be a good thing to happen. Can you turn somthing evil into somthing good? I can, It will expose people for who they realy are.
If there is a genicide of people, or a cull of humans. I have prepared myself so I will not get caught in the fray. It is not though fear that I do this but an enjoyable experience expanding my knowledge of things that I didnt know before.

Yep ill also toast when it is toast

What is going down "was" a big ulgy beast of a thing, good riddance to it. It must go for there to be the new world the old must fall. Now I dont wanna be a dummy and be standing in the wrong place and get squished by the falling debris i think thats the point alot of us who are wanting to make sure we continue LIFE are feeling. Things are changing, so stay out of the way or falling debris. yes a calm mind is a hardhat, and will protect you from alot of stuff but not the big chunks so its best to looks up and be aware and try to preserve LIFE and continue the link into this #D so you can channel the energy into it.

If any of you follow the mayan calender this is the end of the 5th nite and it is RIGHT ON THE $ on events, this is the comming down of the old ulgy regiem and like any living thing it is blooming all its ulgyness for everyone to see. I think they MUST see it, must acknowledge it for there to be change. Maybe many people are heavy sleepers and need soemthing LOUD to wake up and stop hitting the snooze bar?

I like to feel all things have there purpose, maybe people ened to be taken from there comfort level to get off ther butts? But when is ee the new wave of thought now the "green" the "eco" the nuturing of the planet wow i know that a wave of change can sweept thru people. But it had to be brought to a dire point for people to pay attention, which kinda sucks but i see a pattern. Do i dare think that maybe even a shot time of what wouldbe called "chaos" is needed for humantiy to hit the reset button, halt and change directions?

Anyways back to the date, the 5th night ends in earily november, and it says as per all the past 6th days we are do for a renassance the likes of which have never been seen. Its been right for thousands of years and is up to this point, ive got my fingers crossed for the 6th day, a new dawn, a rebuilding. Ive got my sleeves rolled up and ready. Maybe forming these NEW villages, new ways to coexhist is also a lesson we need to learn and teach, a new way. Who knows just a thought

[Avid]

As a longtime viewer of Project Camelot, I welcomed this innovation.
I have wandered all threads, and most of the posts, for weeks now, and also my multiple tabs have been open on many many other sites, just to keep up is now becoming exhausting. To what end?
I was quire poorly 3 months ago and stopped using my computer, watching TV, and just went out and did gardening, saw to my relatives, and slept peacefully.
I stupidly bought myself a new mac to do creative things and got 'wheedled' in again - I watched as the major posters got even more competitive - with their large avatars and unusual communicatory literacy, I found it compulsory to do the 'alternative rounds' again. It takes all day every day! I am early retired. I appreciate there are some people out there who find this their only means of communication, but we MUST LIVE OUR LIVES!
One find's oneself doing things with money, disregarding the 'state of play' of normalcy, because one is in a fixated 'doom-laden' anxiety, our vibrations becoming so low as to make oneself ill, when the whole of this forum is supposedly positive. I applaud all those who can rise above the fear and be proactive - I am met with resilience, but have stored all relevant materials for the 'just-in-case' scenario. I've spent money on wind-up radios with short wave etc, wind-up lanterns, and now seem to 'hunkered down' unwilling to travel on any 'key dates'. This is NOT what we should be doing surely?

I am half-awake - in a nightmare - I want to relax but worry for my family, I do the deep-breathing, but there it is - in the background - the ultimate fear. Please please stop this... so I'm off back to my gardening (I hope), but will desperately try to stop looking at the pre-marked dates on my calender and reorganising around it.
I hope I am not one of many...
Please, 'ground crew' it implies you are the only survivors - I am too unwell to help you unless you need reiki.
I am utterly depressed.

[Carrie Todd]

Seva, I totally agree with your frog story. I've heard it before and it definitely seems to fit what is going on.

Avid, I understand your plight. The doom and gloom news and supposition can be overwhelming. I, personally try to knock off early enough daily that I can wind down and find some peace.

But I think that was the original purpose of the post. If you don't have peace and joy in your life, you really don't have life. I liked Seva's comment about continuing life and living. It doesn't have to be frantic survival and paralyzing fear.

A group of us are getting together in Kansas City this weekend to share ideas and get to know each other. I think this sort of fellowship would help a person gain perspective; there is comfort in numbers.

[Seva]

Originally Posted by Carrie Todd

Seva, I totally agree with your frog story. I've heard it before and it definitely seems to fit what is going on.

Avid, I understand your plight. The doom and gloom news and supposition can be overwhelming. I, personally try to knock off early enough daily that I can wind down and find some peace.

But I think that was the original purpose of the post. If you don't have peace and joy in your life, you really don't have life. I liked Seva's comment about continuing life and living. It doesn't have to be frantic survival and paralyzing fear.

A group of us are getting together in Kansas City this weekend to share ideas and get to know each other. I think this sort of fellowship would help a person gain perspective; there is comfort in numbers.

Thats wonderful i know alot can be acomplised with many calm heads with different perspective. maybe everyone should do roll call on that state listing so we can figure out who is around us state wise or even regionaly. Ive been looking over alot of things. the old is going down, which does mean trasition and adjustment and a period of confusion, but afterwards it gets to be rebuilt. In happy meditative periods ponder that, what would you rebuild? Harmony with mother earth, a close knit community, abdunance thta is shared amond all so there is no povery, no manipulated wars or confrontations. Soon will come the time when the true power of manifestion will be known, but alwasys remember beyond the visualization and accpetance there is the 3rd factor of "action" to bring a dream into reality.

Thats wonderful what your doing this weekend. the things that seem unreachable or too hard or impossible all begin with that first step and with that first person who has the courage to step into that unknown and try

in that note anyone here on the southern east coast?

NAMASTE

[Sanat]

Hi Seva!

I cannot tell you the "how" of anything. That is up to each person to find out for him/her self...

The line between preparation and panic is drawn inside each individual. Where else? If you do what you do because that feels right and it is an expression of your inner urge and Joy you can very well be preparing and be peaceful inside at the same time. Just like preparing for a party with good friends or familiy might make you peaceful. But if your preparation is highly motivated by all sorts of "what if" scenarios which have given your already present fear a lot of good excuses to "take you over", then you are moving closer to panic... Point is: Fear is there in the first place and has been for a long time, the outside events are just bringing it up to the surface and it is up to you how to handle that fear in order to grow out of it. All is an opportunity.

If you really feel the need to prepare, then there should not be any fear in it because you are doing what feels right for you and you are doing your best to express what feels right for you. No problem. However, if you are preparing because of "outside influence" when in reality your "higher self" is trying to guide you to move in another direction or do something totally "unexpected" or different, then you can easily move into panic because you are not listening to your own inner guide. You have given your power away to outside "authorities" which you might feel "know better" than you do. Nobody knows better than yourself what is right for you. Fear is blocking your ability to listen to your own guidence. Therefore fear must be dealt with by each of us individually. It helps to view everything as an experience for growth, and thus accept that this is what you must have signed up to experience. No matter what it might be...

[Richard T]

Originally Posted by Sanat

All is an opportunity.

That says it all.

Unfortunately, when in opposition, instead of seeing the condition as an opportunity, which it is, people tend to look at it in terms of contrariety. Instead of using the event to strengthen their fields of force. they seek to avoid the experience.

And the experience is there for no other reason than that of opportunity.

[Zynox]

~ trust thy inner compass, a gift from self to self, happy birthday to thee ~

[Carrie Todd]

There are many different methods by which one can "enjoy the ride". I agree, a person must look within for his or her own path. I don't think there is a perfect one-size-fits-all solution.

Some will hunker down in their bunkers; some will store food for theirsleves and their loved ones; some will meditate with knowledge that everything happens for a reason. Some will refuse to look until it's too late. Awareness comes to different persons at different times in different ways.

Someone earlier mentioned the ant and the grasshopper. I plan to prepare with peace. Life can be a learning experience, as well as, a game. I guess it just depends on what you sign up for and what you come away with.

[Isa]

((AVID)) !!!!! I hope you are feeling better soon. I have been in that horrid place yes, yes ~ of course and why not? When you know "too much" it is such a burden at first...

...but time passes and look, you are still here. You are gardening! (I am jealous) I hope you are talking to your plants; they are alive and so so so wise, aren't they? Yes, we are on this beautiful earth, still here and there you are planting and breathing... you see, this life is still here and precious today. All any of us ever has is this moment.

One thing that has helped me in the past has been to listen to uplifting, beautiful music. Earth sounds, chanting; whatever stops you from thinking. Our minds get too busy and chatter chatter chatter until we are just all wound up. Sometimes we have to just stop thinking and simply be. It helps to be while handling plants ~ that is a powerful way to connect to higher energies!

Consider yourself hugged, Avid and be cheered! There is much good in the world. There are good hearts beating across the globe. There are concerned minds focused on a better tomorrow. Many many many people want peace. Who knows what will happen, and yes there could always be a reign of chaos happening quickly, but even then it would be helpful to have a wealth of positive 'yesterdays' to strengthen us during such a time.

So today as I look around at all the miracles manifested right here before my eyes... I am filled with peace ~ and when tomorrow comes, whatever that may bring, I will be stronger because of this moment now.

I'm all for storing some cans in the cupboard; I am even more interested in becoming more self-sufficient ~ and not just as individuals but as communities. There may be a lot of 'sleepwalking' people but there are also a LOT of people coming together with sustainable living projects, community farms and so on. Reaching out to one another, offering comfort, sharing resources; this is what will help us to not only survive but to THRIVE with a new way of life where greed is no longer the ruling factor of EVERYTHING.

(whew!)

[asclepius888]

Survival mode is not negative train of thought, it is being prepared in readiness for some unforeseeable emergency that might cause harm or even death. An example, 2 canoeist capsize in rapid waters, one panics out of fear and drowns, while the other instinctively decides to ride out the rapids to more calmer waters and increases his/her chances of survival. When the Yk2 happen, many took preventative measures only to feel either foolish or relieved the next day, yet it should have been seen as a firedrill.

For those who wish not to debate the merits of a survivor mentality any longer, see the thread I just created called "For Survivors Eyes Only." It is a place for those who wish to get down to the business of preparation for defense can do so.

Thank you.

HistoryCircus

[Jenny]

Historycircus...

I feel your input at this time and how you present this..is pivotal to what Avalon is trying to achieve.

Bare with us..mods ..we will think this over very seriously.

Jenny

[Shellie]

After watching this forum for 3 weeks, it has finally dawned upon me:

First of all, there are TWO Whatever's taking place; the one that is starting to happen now (economy, elections etc) and the one that is *supposed* to happen in the next 4 years.

Here is the difference; Whatever I is man-made, and for many people who have just woken up, very scary.

Whatever II is probably NOT going to be man-made (or if it is, it will not be readily identified as such by the public).

Now, here is the practical difference: there is little disparity between the messages of say, George Green vs. Michael StClair. George Green and his camp are concerned with Whatever I; Michael StClair and David Wilcock are concerned with Whatever II.

History has shown us that in times of (local natural) cataclysm, people for the most part trust each other and bond together very well to support each other in things like earthquakes, fires, famines, volcanoes, floods etc. History has also shown that when chaos ensues because of man-made factors, people lose all trust in each other and tend to treat each other as the enemy, even if they previously were good neighbors (think Christians and Muslims in the Balkans).

IMHO, Whatever I is very much an old-paradigm situation that for good or bad will require a lot of old-paradigm thinking and preparation. Whatever II will be very much a new-paradigm situation where old-paradigm thinking and behaving (reacting) will be medieval and backwards.

We need to utilize both methods of preparation. Those who are thinking of spiritual ideals and nothing else will be in for a rough ride when Whatever I starts to affect them... but people more prepared for Whatever I will also need to keep the final goal of 10 years from now in focus so they don't turn into negative and destructive "survivalists".

AND, let's dissect this idea of a survivalist... a survivalist is someone who just barely eeks through when tshtf (which is any situation that you don't like and don't have control over). Even if we are preparing for the physical aspects of "survival", that is not enough. We need to prepare to THRIVE. Let's not be survivors, let's be thrivers. We don't need to create our own problems in order to define ourselves.

[showmemo]

I do not see myself as being afraid as for being a realist nor do I want to be caught with my pants down in any situation. Yes to be rescued by aliens would be grand yet it is hard to fathom a race that would want to rescue another that expects it. As it would not be a learning experience it is as though you can do whatever than it is alright the ET's will help us, I ask why would they for what reason when everyone would lay down as sheep. I would want a fighter someone who is able to have the heart and WILL to survive as that is what would be needed. You have to think of the past of the men and women who lived on homesteads,farms and in the hilly rough country, they where rough survivors who produced their own food and traded for what they needed it is the mind set of working together whether a family or communitee to survive.

As for when your time is up it is up I agree but one must be able to survive you think the ET's are going to be the U.N. I highly doubt it as they would exspect peoples who can survive as the new world might be rough a new beggining it may have less people and the wally world may not be around. You have your thoughts and they make sense to a few peoples around the world and may agree with some form of it,yet at the end of the day I believe they (ET's) want people like the NATIVES around the world who where one with nature used all of what they had and had no need for waste.

There is no fear here I have my eyes open as well as my mind life is good and yes there is storage and seeds it is a gift to be living in these times that have been told of in proficies and in stories from natives to ones touched, what a gift from the higher power!

[giovonni]

Originally Posted by Shellie

After watching this forum for 3 weeks, it has finally dawned upon me:

First of all, there are TWO Whatever's taking place; the one that is starting to happen now (economy, elections etc) and the one that is *supposed* to happen in the next 4 years.

Here is the difference; Whatever I is man-made, and for many people who have just woken up, very scary.

Whatever II is probably NOT going to be man-made (or if it is, it will not be readily identified as such by the public).

Now, here is the practical difference: there is little disparity between the messages of say, George Green vs. Michael StClair. George Green and his camp are concerned with Whatever I; Michael StClair and David Wilcock are concerned with Whatever II.

History has shown us that in times of (local natural) cataclysm, people for the most part trust each other and bond together very well to support each other in things like earthquakes, fires, famines, volcanoes, floods etc. History has also shown that when chaos ensues because of man-made factors, people lose all trust in each other and tend to treat each other as the enemy, even if they previously were good neighbors (think Christians and Muslims in the Balkans).

IMHO, Whatever I is very much an old-paradigm situation that for good or bad will require a lot of old-paradigm thinking and preparation. Whatever II will be very much a new-paradigm situation where old-paradigm thinking and behaving (reacting) will be medieval and backwards.

We need to utilize both methods of preparation. Those who are thinking of spiritual ideals and nothing else will be in for a rough ride when Whatever I starts to affect them... but people more prepared for Whatever I will also need to keep the final goal of 10 years from now in focus so they don't turn into negative and destructive "survivalists".

AND, let's dissect this idea of a survivalist... a survivalist is someone who just barely eeks through when tshtf (which is any situation that you don't like and don't have control over). Even if we are preparing for the physical aspects of "survival", that is not enough. We need to prepare to THRIVE. Let's not be survivors, let's be thrivers. We don't need to create our own problems in order to define ourselves.

A diamond in the rough, very logical and well put, giovonni

[David]

This is an excellent post. While it is good to be prepared for disasters, there is no need to live in fear. We are all hear to live, learn and love.

[SynchrOMicity]

Well, I do not live in fear. And perfect love cast’s out all fear.
Worse case I die, prematurely ejectulate, flesh wise, because you can’t kill me.
And iam back home. Chillin with my friends.
But to ride out the storms of change,in this plane, I would rather be prepared,
And not need it, than to not be, and need it!
Now I know as a man thinks in his heart so is he, so as the masses think in their hearts so are we all. And 90% R brain dead or brain washed. How are the masses thinking right now? Not pretty! If every body woke up yesterday, we could turn this ship around.(ship of Tool”S I mean fools).
But they ain’t, so geet ready folks. As was said in Carl Segan ‘s movie Contact, R ya ready to take a ride, iam OK to GO!!! Is your heart sayin iam ok to go? Narrow is the way that leads to life, U know the rest of that verse aah.
I bless you all, and wish U the best transition period.

[Frank Samuel]

To be ready, coming from a military background, physical readiness matters very little if your heart, mind and spirit are not aligned and in tune with your surroundings. As i write this I'm listening to the wind and rain looking at my
children, thanking God , Gaia, project avalon, for helping to awaken me to a new reality. The reality of positiveness, gratefulness and compassion for others. For to hate and be negative will poison your soul and thus you lose your edge. A clear head, clear mind, cautionary but wise steps, positive and loving always...
I am prepare as I ever going to be...
Peace and love to all

[Seva]

Originally Posted by SynchrOMicity

Well, I do not live in fear. And perfect love cast’s out all fear.
Worse case I die, prematurely ejectulate, flesh wise, because you can’t kill me.
And iam back home. Chillin with my friends.
But to ride out the storms of change,in this plane, I would rather be prepared,
And not need it, than to not be, and need it!
Now I know as a man thinks in his heart so is he, so as the masses think in their hearts so are we all. And 90% R brain dead or brain washed. How are the masses thinking right now? Not pretty! If every body woke up yesterday, we could turn this ship around.(ship of Tool”S I mean fools).
But they ain’t, so geet ready folks. As was said in Carl Segan ‘s movie Contact, R ya ready to take a ride, iam OK to GO!!! Is your heart sayin iam ok to go? Narrow is the way that leads to life, U know the rest of that verse aah.
I bless you all, and wish U the best transition period.

Awsome post and some very good points to think about

.

Just click your heels together and say I'll be alright if I just think good thoughts. Sorry I mean this just like it sounds, What a crock of BS. God loves the prepared Man. Remember the parable of the man that built his house on sand and the man that built his house on rock? There are hundreds of examples in God's word that say as much. Now I mean no disrespect but I wonder what the real motive here is. There is no fear when you have real faith but God gave you a brain and a body to sustain your spirit . To say you can over come the coming problems with good thoughts or not having fear is crazy. Smart preparation is using God given talents and reason, anything else to me is a lie of the enemy. Fear is not modus operandi to live under of course but thats like a soldier laying down his arms and running headlong into the opposing army saying "I'm not Afraid, they cant hurt me" LOL sorry please but this is bad info that can effect the weak of mind or unlearned. please be careful you dont cause your brothers and sisters to be led asstray or you may pay a high price when you reach your judgement in the council of the god's one day. God's richest blessings~~