If New Age is evil deception, what is the alternative?

[kriya]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

HOW DARE THEY CLAIM THEY CAN CONNECT TO THE FATHER WITHIN THEMSELVES?
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Which is exactly what the term to be reborn means.......

Frankly it irritates me when I hear people banging on about how this or that resonates with them etc... because it just seems so....well new age actually. Words without meaning or substance. Those who know keep silent.

[Malletzky]

kriya;202874...
Frankly it irritates me when I hear people banging on about how this or that resonates with them etc... because it just seems so...well new age actually. Words without meaning or substance[/COLOR]. [COLOR="Yellow"][B]Those who know keep silent.

I'm I a new ager automaticly as soon as I understand my feelings? Are we not allowed to feel and resonate with something?

Or let me ask you this way...Love is also a feeling...and YOU resonate with this feeling when you think about your parents, children, etc....Are you automaticly a new ager?

Allow me to answer directly...NO you're not, you're just expressing your feelings, nothing more and nothing less.


It's like a stamping the whole humanity, for the last (at least 6.000 years) as being new agers!

Please remember that our feelings makes us what we really are...!

About beeing silent...this is exactly why we're in this situation as we are (we as humans)! Actually, if the one who know step forward and tell what they know, we would be able to learn much smoother and faster that we do now.

I guess, the biggest problem here is, that they will be stamped as new agers as soon as they open their mouth. Maybe this is why they remain silent!

14C...I like the way you titled this thread...I know that you intend to find a sollution to the problem of duality...but as soon as we discuss about something being evil and something being good, we're back on the track of duality again.

Me pesonaly, I accept everything, really everything, begining from the bible and ending with some unproved, channeled messages. My only approcah is to educate myself from all presented material, with an enlightenment as a final goal. If I would only left one source by side, just because I've stamped this as being evil...I will never be able to find the absolute truth.

The only thing I do pay attention while learning is...is to "feel" the accuracy of the presented...

Which, once again, brings us back to the feelings as the strongest indicator in the process of finding the truth.

And this is my proposal as a solution! FEEL! FEEL! FEEL the love that is burried inside of your being...and learn the truth about yourself!

P.S. By the way, I don't consider my self being a new ager...I don't consider my self of being anything...but just as a soul on the way back to the source...

with and respect
malletzky

[ewhite]

I feel that the term "new age" is a tad derogatory in nature, new age is actually "old age" before TPTB decided what and how people should worship.

If you strip away all the dogma of any major religion you see a common thread, and that thread is LOVE.

Unfortunately for millions the message of love is obscured by the requirement of the ego to prove that ones creator is the only true creator.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by c76

i agree wholeheartedly that the new age movement was injected into society by TPTB

Then you'd also have to agree that religion was also injected into societies by those same PTB.

I don't think this is the case.

Quite the opposite, I believe that nearly all religions, cults, etc. started out with a good message, a very basic easy-to-understand and concise message.

Then, the PTB/darkside infiltrates those religions and cults, and they change the original message, through distortion, through "creating rules", threats", "warnings", creeds, and orders.

And when a simple message is obscured a million meanings, this creates division, and division creates conflict, an ongoing conflict that has resulted in the death of countless millions.

The original message always seems to be the same, you look for what all religions had in common, whether New Age or Old Age, and you find it is simply a reminder, to live your life with integrity, love your family, love your neighbors, stay away from negativity and evil, and that there is an afterlife of eternal higher existence of some sort, depending on spiritual growth.

Peace,

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by c76

this is the primary reason I canot stand the new age movement.. it is all about taking God out of the picture..

IMO, its not taking God out of the picture. Sure, maybe you don't hear people uttering the word; God, which after all is just a call name. It doesn't matter what we call it, its been agreed that this higher power/force exists, not only externally, but within us as well.

New Age is simply a different perception of God than with organized religion.

Another facet is whom exactly you consider your own supreme being. Some people consider that person Jesus, others are convinced the only real God is the creator of the universe, and there are other figures worshiped as Gods. The point being; we can all agree that there is something/someone much bigger than and encompassing ourselves, and within ourselves is a tremendous force called spirit, which is energy. New Age have simply redefined the 'spirit' or 'soul' into modern terms.

Regards,

[ewhite]

Originally Posted by c76

i agree wholeheartedly that the new age movement was injected into society by TPTB.. as is all religious dogma.. and as a matter of fact.. just about every popular consensus that filters into the world.. i don't think people realize exactly how malleable they are, not only as a society but as individuals.

Exactly, so it is up to you to make your own path, if the Christian Bible is the only tool you need to make that path I am honestly envious. Others feel they need more than that, lets say a macro view of spirituality. Personally I need to connect the dots back to the source. This means that I have taken the time to read the Quran and any Gnostic, Egyptian, etc. scripture I can get my hands on. Which by the way is blasphemous in the eyes of my Protestant family, to use a word which you like "satanic". Why is this? Why do followers of any particular faith pigeon hole themselves into the dogma of that one faith?

I understand your points, I really do. These same points have been drilled into me by my family for 20 years. BUT if the outcome of ones faith or spirituality in the end leads to the same outcome as your own, why label it? Why use terms like "satanic" and "evil"? If the outcome is LOVE, why does it matter what path one took?

[Malletzky]

c76...but how does that goes...saying that an "entity" (movement) is satanic...but the "subentities" (the people behind this movement) are not?

Who makes the "entity" being satanic? Who else then these sincere people like us who just decided to take another path then we did?

btw...I prety much understand what you say...I appreciate your concerns to tell me your truth...but thanks...I have to pass. My perceptions are my perceptions...and I hope you accept that our perceptions are different. (Mostly because of the feeling that I've probably been where you're now)

Sorry.

malletzky

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by c76

1. Are the fish of a polluted lake evil?

This is one response I respect for the fact that you have clearly outlined your position -- as opposed to posting sarcasm and ridicule (with 50 buddies). Well done on that front.

2. As for the assertion that you do not find value in what I say.. I have no control over that.. and I wont chase you up the street with a Bible (promise).. the way I see things, people either want to hear something or they don't. and that's the way life goes..

1. We could remain philosophicaly here...so who poluted the lake?

2. You don't need to chase me, I won't try to run away ...as I've read the bible myself and I still do believe in Jesus as the one which wisdoms should be followed...so that subject is not that sustrained to me.

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by c76

you're after a stoush and i wont have anything to do with it. this forum has had enough of it lately.

???????? Sorry ???????

[Stardustaquarion]

The biggest deception of the Bible is that introduces the idea that God is out there and we are sinners that do not deserve to be alive....paradoxically we could not be alive if we were not conected to our own divinity from within, therefore even being a small part of the creator or all oneness we are god because a part of god does not stop being god just because it is small

Even the fallen angelics are within the body of god because nothing has been created outside (they are like a virus though)

We can feed the hungry etc, if we put our hard heads to manifest abundance with the god given power of thougt; the problem is that we don't, we spend all our time worrying, fighting and fearing and that is exactly what is being promoted, divide and conquer...

We don't have to workship anything but commune with the god within that we already are now in this moment and forever

Just so it is clear the CDT plates are 5.5 million years old...any other book seems to have been written yesterday

Cheers

[ewhite]

Originally Posted by c76

i have researched everything you've mentioned and above.. i could show you a website that i have built which has over 200 topics (all of which i have researched and am knowledgeable of).. but i do not want my actual identity revealed ion this forum at this time.

my point is that you do not know who i am, what i know or how i know it. you do not know what i have researched or studied. i just want to tell you that i have researched all of those things also.. (and more).. and i have found truth in much of it.. but i must add that if it weren't for the knowledge that I gained from the Bible and prayer, i sincerely do not believe I'd have understood things as I do.

I am sorry I generalized you brother. That was not my intention, I appreciate your view, I really do. My only point is your 'testimony' will never be the same as anyone else's. It is up to the individual to find their own 'testimony.'

[MargueriteBee]

Originally Posted by kriya

Which is exactly what the term to be reborn means.......

Frankly it irritates me when I hear people banging on about how this or that resonates with them etc... because it just seems so....well new age actually. Words without meaning or substance. Those who know keep silent.

WORDS

Words are the problem. Words mean different things to different people. Imagine; 'thinking without words'.