Bill Ryan's thread

[Ixopoborn]

Thanks Bill for all you do to help build support for the many important tasks ahead. Opening the forum can only help hasten the process. I have attended one of your conferences which I have to say was great. I keep up with unfolding developments via the internet including the Camelot site and am beginning to achieve a rounded understanding albeit still quite shallow campared to you and Kerry. I want to deepen my understanding and play a part helping the positive changes which I am sure we all crave. What should an "experienced novice" like me do next?

[THE eXchanger]

yup, in part of my last processes
i utilised rudiments-and, found 2 incidents
utilising an x-scientologist person-a friend of gnosis5
someone kind of free-zone, i think
and, i discovered 2 incidents
1- from age 17, and, one at age 32, that still had charge
and, after getting rid of them, we went clear !!!
we understand why bill, and, gnosis5, like that sort of thing !!!
it works !!!

Keep up the good work Bill and, Kerrie...
you are both doing a marvelous job !!!

namasté
susan

[Derek]

I was a really big fan of Jordan Maxwell until I saw this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ent=firefox-a# which completely debunks him. I really would like to believe him but have a hard time doing so after watching this. What do you think of this video?

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

yup, in part of my last processes
i utilised rudiments-and, found 2 incidents
utilising an x-scientologist person-a friend of gnosis5
someone kind of free-zone, i think
and, i discovered 2 incidents
1- from age 17, and, one at age 32, that still had charge
and, after getting rid of them, we went clear !!!
we understand why bill, and, gnosis5, like that sort of thing !!!
it works !!!

Keep up the good work Bill and, Kerrie...
you are both doing a marvelous job !!!

namasté
susan

Boy, does it ever work! I went from burned out middle age ex-businesswoman, failed one marriage and wondering how much longer I should live -- to a Walker between Worlds, gearing up for a second business venture. Started some lighthearted channeling (pals only, no strangers) and meeting ETs (see thread about between lives abductions), including someone represented to be from Galactic Federation (do not ask me, I just report what I see), and am now more and more helping others clear themselves.

I do not think I am officially CLEAR yet -- am still looking deep into my history as a spiritual being. Last session was my shortest ever: 11 minutes ($6!) -- also one of my best sessions.

I think many of the more vocal auditors in the Freezone are highly protective of their vested interests and rather self-important, but there are a few really good clearing practitioners, both in and out of the Freezone. Caveat Emptor.

My clearing practitioner publishes all of his clearing technology and only charges for his time. It is the most straighforward route to CLEAR (equivalent to ancient Bodhisattva or Bodhicitta, perhaps the Nirvana as Buddha delivered it himself).

Thank you Buddha for sitting under that Bodhi tree and then telling others about it and helping others to see what you saw and experience what you experienced. Thank you Maittreya for giving us a way to stay connected with our Native State and Sovereign Unpotentiated Potential nature.

It has come to my recent attention that the Galactic Federation, much concerned about resolving old fixed dualities may have some clearing technology that is even more sublime than what I have. I am researching it now...

best,
Gnosis

[Phtha]

I've put the Dane Tops interview up on youtube in audio format with a pc generated voice program for those that would rather listen to it then read it on a monitor.

Bill, if you have a problem with this for any reason let me know and I'll take er down asap.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...01A272033C0B56

One thing I have to say about the content matter aside from what I already mentioned is that the whole part about the children sure is bizarre... I dunno why people put up with that for so long as it would have been impossible not to know how manipulated they were.

[1love]

Bill, I know that David Wilcock did a presentation mentioning the pineal gland in the brain and how there was much symbolism of it in antiquity but have you read The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rich Strassmen? He's one of the only researchers to experiment with DMT (the spirit molecule) on people which he believes is released by the pineal gland. Interestingly enough, many of the volunteers experienced ET presence in the short lasting, fleeing, psychooactive drug that may be the same chemical released in your brain in deep sleep or REM cycles. More importantly it is in the position of the seventh chakra. The website is here for anyone who wants to check it out. http://thespiritmolecule.com/..... Sorry to anyone if I am preaching to the choir... Just trying to help!

[DawnJah]

Very Cool Trailer on DMT......The number scan embedded in the opening was a great effect!

And The People interviewed were from academia and artists......The Rabbi said,"DMT is the entering and existing of the Soul in the Body."

[eagle02]

Question for Bill
It is concerning a need for a referral.
The person is a friend who has abilities and needs someone to counsel concerning the ability to travel and communicate during REM sleep.
There are similarities to things that David Wikcock has said in his interviews
with you and Kerry.
I have EMailed but I feel it has an urgency to post here.
This was what alarmed me because of extended military exposure from very young age
He has been approached by an ET with an open offer to contact them...
i can be reached through EMail
Thankyou for what you and kerry do.

[halebox]

We are all powerful infinite souls

[Aztar]

"Conan what is best in life?"

Conan "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women!"

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Aztar

Yup

"Conan what is best in life?"

Conan "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you... and to hear the lamentation of their women!"

AND: Do you want to live forever!!

[100thmonkey]

Hello Bill and Kerry, thanks for your tireless work. It is infinitely appreciated.

Firstly, I'd love to see you guys interview Charles Hall (if he's still around?)
He seems to be the best one to describe the Tall Whites, who keep coming up, and apparently have a fair sized part in ET interactions with the US government. He really is a whistleblower, having interacted personally with them in his job in the US airforce and resisting the pressure to stay silent about it.


Secondly, seeing as you were saying you don't have a really good summary of Henry Deacon's information in one place, I was thinking maybe you could release the original interview you have of him?

The first interview you released of Henry Deacon was actually a transcript of a video interview.
The video itself was understandably withheld at the time because of anonymity issues, but now that we all know his face and identity it couldn't do any harm to release it on to youtube, etc, and would provide new platform for the info.

Maybe even a directors cut...?!


Third, I liked the little clip you made of Stephen Basset at the Barcelona conference. I realised that such little snippets of short summarised info could be a good way to get some info out there to a wider audience.
The average civilian may be intimidated by a 2 hour youtube clip on a subject they already consider far out, but little summarised shorts may be more accessible.

Not to suggest you make shorter videos, but alongside the in depth versions could be shorter clips aimed at our modern attention deficited audience...?

Anyway,
thanks,
seeya.

[Dougall]

Hey Bill - I am totally hooked on Project Camelot however I don't believe much if any of the ideas or material that are put forth by the Project.
Its so funny because I check the site every day and I'm like a pig in slop every time you and Kerry post a new vid or audio.
One thing I am sure of is that the U.S. Military and others are way more advanced than what is commonly believed.
My question is this, Do you think that Project Camelot has many fans like myself who do not believe in Humans on Mars etc however can't get enough of the jazz? Something about it is very compelling.
Keep up the good work!

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by Dougall

... My question is this, Do you think that Project Camelot has many fans like myself who do not believe in Humans on Mars etc however can't get enough of the jazz? Something about it is very compelling.
Keep up the good work!

Hey Dougall, maybe. Even B&K have stated they don't necessarily agree with 100% of their witnesses perspectives.
In my opinion, blind belief is not really necessary, nor is being asked.
As long as we are all at least Aware of the possibilities out there, the maneuverings behind the scenes, etc. you won't be taken by surprise, or easily manipulated, when something turns out to be true...

[9ofclubs]

Dear Bill,

PC is amazing and thank you so much for the work that you do!

No one is more hopelessly enslaved than those you falsely believe they are free
Goethe said this first I believe.

My question is what you think about what William Cooper said about, indirectly, Jordan Maxwell? He seemed to be under the impression that he was part of the "mystery school" people.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, All:

Wow... a lot of activity. Over 30,000 views on this thread in a few days... people, you are in the public eye here. Dress up smart!

For that reason you and we all need to be careful with what we say. One thing I want to point out is that a few of my replies have been missed or misunderstood. That's EASY to do in a long post (as in one of mine containing multiple answers). But every word I write is carefully thought out (which is kinda how I work) - and has a reason why it's there.

Several immediate corrections - and more below:

* The subtle points I mentioned about the importance of the several major Greer changes since 2001 - all taken together to generate a major question (the answer to which, in my view and that of many others, is clear) haven't been commented on by anyone as far as I can see.

That doesn't mean they've not been read, but I did wonder! It's NOT about homophobia. [And yes, we had this corroborated from an inside source who knew someone who was "involved". That's how we found out all this.]

* I found and cited the source of the Clif High/Deagle question (Clif's own e-mail to me).

* The posted Anunnaki picture is not correct. I was careful to say NOT the snake. This is important, because this is how accidental and well-meaning disinfo gets started. 30,000 people may have seen that image, and it's the wrong one.

It's the last image of the James Earl Jones human face BEFORE it morphs, where the chin is being extended. The actual appearance is slightly more extended than even that. And (don't get this wrong either!) it's NOT the skin color. Just the chin.

I don't know if they are shapeshifters or not. This is a confusing issue. Some of them may be (but this is an unconfirmed personal opinion). I've not got a clear answer from our source, who has met with them in person.

I'll say that again. He has met with them physically in the flesh, in real time, as recently as a few weeks ago. They are still around and are VERY active in world affairs. Understanding this properly is one of Camelot's key goals. David Wilcock is also very involved in this (c.f. his most recent Coast to Coast interview) but he has come away with slightly different impressions. We need more information.

Note carefully - and this is as interesting as it gets: it's important to get this issue right and to handle it sensitively. They don't like being messed with. I'm serious. It's a risk even talking about it.

Kerry and I first mentioned this information to someone in one video interview [of us] a couple of months ago, with a detailed description. Two days later, the interviewer's tapes and computer were burgled under highly strange circumstances that have never been explained. It was not a normal burglary. The interview was lost and so was never published.

The AI surveillance they use enables anything that happens concerning them to be tracked remotely in real time with no physical cause-and-effect going on. I revealed the information again in my Freedom Central interview (in some depth) - and again here. I am holding on to my hat.

Link to Freedom Central interview:

http://projectcamelot.org/Bill_Ryan_...om_Central.mp3

* Re information tracking, I'm not sure what the best solution is for this... it might be (mods?) that my responses-only can be archived on an ongoing basis on a locked separate thread (as well as remaining here). Ideas welcome.

I can see this thread growing to monstrous proportions (if I can keep this up every day!) and so it's going to get more and more difficult with questions being asked which have already been answered - and responses to answers which have been missed or misread with all the good intentions in the world.

No criticism is intended to anyone here... I know it's REALLY difficult to read and digest long and detailed posts. The overwhelm of detailed information is endemic on the Camelot site itself, on the internet everywhere, and also on this thread as it grows.

So let's read and write carefully - as best I know I am answering every question (please re-post if not). More answers in a separate post below within an hour or two.

[Gnosis5]

RE Annunaki,

What we saw when we started our MANKIND Project was first a Satrap (Frequently Persian names show up in 4-D), then above him a council group of Annunaki (tall, thin, did not see faces clearly -- they stated they were keepers of the lost tech -- seem to be hyperversals). The group was helped with the traumatic incident they were sitting in and they felt more true to their original purpose(s). If I recall correctly their traumatic incident was about something that happened to them when they were larvae and I was being a big bad nasty genie, lol. All is forgiven :-)

Shortly after this a group of about 7 Arcturians (hooked on some liquid spice(s)) were sent to handle me. I did some more clearing work and then helped them with their traumatic incident. As a result this particular group lost their addiction to the spice (does anyone just love cinnamon, lol). While I was on their ship I saw a reproductive cycle that involved larvae to pupae to a Birdman type being.

I do not know who these Birdman beings are, whether they are the arcturians or some genetic experiment (however I do have a future self hanging around who is a Birdman just like the newborn infant I saw). I am not 100% that they were arcturians, partly because I thought Arcturians were good guys, but it really was not an intellligence gathering session, more a clearing session so I guess that was not really signficant. I did see them enough to feel who they were as beings and that was all that was needed to process them.

The being(s) we next saw controlling them was a crystalline being (I saw only one and he was the one who I had karmic issues with). I got that this being lives in or around Rigel, but that really was not important data for our purposes. I assume there are more of his kind around. He likes to wear a rubber suit and because of a traumatic incident he was stuck in where the crystal he had been trapped in was shattered to fragments (my BAD!).

We then proceeded to look and see who is or was controlling him and I saw how before I had traumatized him he had been pushed into this universe by another being.

We went back a bit further but I do not now recall what else came up.

Suffice to say all beings involved, including myself are more free to express who they really are and no longer so susceptible to being controlled.

We decided to take a step back and re-assess our strategy while I do more clearing work. Clearing helps to keep me teflon-coated whenever I decide to dip my toe into the Stream of Llife.

Anyone can do what we are doing, but I am not sure it is the best strategy. It was good for me to clear out some personal Karmic Prior Cause, especially if I am going to continue to pursue our Mankind Project.

I also have attention on what in Childhoods End are called OVERMINDS which sound to me like larger scale morphic field entities.

At this point, like Archimedes, I am looking for the right place to stand, the best footing to create the greatest amount of leverage.

Since I have a lot of Karmic Prior Cause -- or else I would not be here -- simply clearing my own sins against beings in this sector of the universe should lighten this place up that much more.

The more one clears their karmic prior cause the higher their courage level -- no fear, no control. Heck, if I lose my body now I will only become more all knowing and powerful. That is why they do not outright kill us, imho.

Also, the more one clears oneself and starts using their new abilities to help the planet, the more one is going to see themselves in some very strange costumes and beingnesses. Truth is stranger than fiction.

How true the details are is not as important as what impact did we make on these beings and on helping resolve the enmities on this planet.

Shortly after all this occurred we were contacted by someone who seems to be on a Galactic Federation ship. Well, that is another bright chapter...

best,
Gnosis

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Bill/Mr. Ryan, during the Brussels and LA Conference...the live stream chat was...filled with utter nonsense and disrespect towards PC, speakers and there were also direct and very improper things said regarding you and Kerry.

I do not know why was that allowed but I think the next time the chat should be either monitored or turned off.

and

Would it be possible for Dane Tops to describe in great detail all the positive techniques? Step by step instructions on how to do it? He said the original founder (Hubbard) always intended for people to know and learn them - so why not do it? I know he recommended the original Dianetics as a start but still...the book is rather old...and an update seems a logical thing to do. The things he talked about (I read the transcript) are very interesting.... Letting the general public know (via internet) how to implement this techniques could prove a crushing blow to the "bad people".

and

Do you read Mr. Fulfords blog posts? Any thoughts?

1) Thanks, and we're aware of this. We don't like Ustream, and probably won't use it again. The chat function will be disabled if we do.

2) Fully agreed. I'm in regular touch with Dane Tops and a further interview is absolutely on the cards (about the techniques).

3) Fulford: I listen to him on Rense every month. He's well-meaning and has a big heart but I'm not personally convinced that all his information is reliable.

One obvious example is his recent visit by Leo Zagami, representing the Black Pope. I promise you that the Black Pope would not choose Benjamin Fulford as his instrument of choice for revealing critical information to the world. (He'd not choose us, either.)

As for Zagami, he phoned Kerry a few months ago telling her that he was being tortured. No joke.

Originally Posted by Daft Ada

Bill I listened to the Rayelan Allan interview. It's only an 18 minute sample and they tell you to hear the rest you have to become a member and pay.

Apologies: I'd not known this. I added a note to the Camelot site, and have asked Rayelan if we can stream it from our server.

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

An earlier post by NoCaste mentioned how whistleblowers should approach the Camelot team and be heard, among the mass of other comms they get. Thats not easy, I have been kicking my heels here for over a year and without sounding big headed, am not exactly an unknown name in that field or even Ufo research. Newcomers would perhaps find it difficult to catch Bill or Kerry's ear or eye. I think they have a comfortable 'family' of individuals they regularly call upon for confs and interviews, these being Deagle, Wilcock, Delicardo, Deacon, Peterson, etc etc. Its like a little closed shop with these same individuals. I personally would not bother trying to be heard above the kerfuffle of these 'family' members. Just an observation

Dear Barry: on 8 July 2008, you wrote us this message:

Hi Bill, I regret to have to inform you that due to recent events i am now not permitted to give any interviews whatsoever, no media coverage of any sort is allowed. I am not allowed to discuss any of my past openly. I thank you both and Project Camelot for your interest and support and wish you continued success. All the best, Barry

Originally Posted by TheChosen

1) What are the real reasons for the CERN accelerator? From my own astral experiences I've seen CERN to be a major black ops research center (Any insider information on what goes on in there?)

2) Have you by any chance heard about connections between the hyperdimensional AI and a guy named Hubert Dreyfus or the RAND corporation .. or perhaps connections between the AI and CERN

3) Latest info is that the vaccine is actually intended to do DNA mutation much like the movie Legend turning people into a Zombie like state (could be on etheric/astral level if not physical).. it came from Astralwalker in his topic.

1) Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann told us that nothing was being done in CERN that hadn't been done in US military experiments as long as 20 years ago. He assured us it was not an issue and that everything was hyped. I believed him.

2) No - will check it out. Thanks.

3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

I have tried to contact you several times through various means,

Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

I can tell one amusing story here (with a happy ending - I hope). We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower. We were traveling at the time and had a huge backlog. I only found it much later accidentally while searching for something else.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more) - and he said he wanted to talk. And we both MISSED it. We're back in touch with this man - but still haven't done an interview.

********

More later - have to go to attend to something. I'll be back within several hours if possible. Cheers, B

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi Bill + Kerry,

I am new here on this forum. Stumbling around here....lol. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Discovered PC over a year ago and have just about listened to all interviews now - some 2 or 3 times. Changed my life. Thank you for that. You will not remember but I emailed you some time ago that I listen to all your interviews on my iPod while cleaning dunnies downunder....no joke! My clients have no idea what I'm listening to! Cracks me up.

Wow, over 30,000 posts, what have you let yourself in for?

I make small donations to you where I can. I promise if I ever come into some money, one of my first stops will be to send a 'goodly sized' donation to PC. Really admire both of you tremendously, admire your energy, faith and integrity.

PS: Don't do the merchandising hat thing! We like you just the way you are - barefoot, humble and ordinary and yet extraordinary - just like us!

No questions or requests, just keep on what you're doing - digging to unearth the truth.

Much appreciation and respect to you both.

Lily de Cuir

[Gnosis5]

Hello Bill, and anyone who might have some insight:

There is a series of messages from the Galactic Federation here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6Gf...eature=channel

I never paid much attention to the Galactic Federation (I hate wearing uniforms) until a few days ago it appears myself and my associate are getting messages from someone who appears to be on one of the Galactic Federation ships.

Of course that did get my attention and it appears I do have a mission regarding civilization on this planet.

The reason I ask you Bill is that in your interview of Dane (the ex-scientologist) there was a brief mention of the Galactic Patrol. Are they the same group or a different group...and have you or anyone else had any contact with either of this group.....


best,
Gnosis

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more)

I'm just dying to know if you'll ever interview this most interesting person. What a shame.

Best of luck on that one, I can't wait!

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

Hi Bill thank you for repling.
And i am very glad to see the forum is free again and that you are active as ever.

Yeah i can only imagine the ocean of e-mails to look through from all types of people. I am not sure what e-mail address to contact you at so i will try a p.m. through here and an e-mail at ProjectCamelot.
If you have a better address for me to contact you through please p.m. it to me.

I also am very interested in seeing/hearing the majestic interview.
Montauk, Majestic, Project Talent, Project MK-Ultra, Treasure Island, and alot of other places, people, and "things" are apart of my life and i am hopelessly attracted to finding more like myself.

God Bless Bill & Kerry
(p.s. does is Kerry still involved with Avalon?)

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

1) Thanks, and we're aware of this. We don't like Ustream, and probably won't use it again. The chat function will be disabled if we do.

2) Fully agreed. I'm in regular touch with Dane Tops and a further interview is absolutely on the cards (about the techniques).

3) Fulford: I listen to him on Rense every month. He's well-meaning and has a big heart but I'm not personally convinced that all his information is reliable.

One obvious example is his recent visit by Leo Zagami, representing the Black Pope. I promise you that the Black Pope would not choose Benjamin Fulford as his instrument of choice for revealing critical information to the world. (He'd not choose us, either.)

As for Zagami, he phoned Kerry a few months ago telling her that he was being tortured. No joke.



Apologies: I'd not known this. I added a note to the Camelot site, and have asked Rayelan if we can stream it from our server.



Dear Barry: on 8 July 2008, you wrote us this message:





1) Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann told us that nothing was being done in CERN that hadn't been done in US military experiments as long as 20 years ago. He assured us it was not an issue and that everything was hyped. I believed him.

2) No - will check it out. Thanks.

3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.



Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

I can tell one amusing story here (with a happy ending - I hope). We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower. We were traveling at the time and had a huge backlog. I only found it much later accidentally while searching for something else.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more) - and he said he wanted to talk. And we both MISSED it. We're back in touch with this man - but still haven't done an interview.

********

More later - have to go to attend to something. I'll be back within several hours if possible. Cheers, B

Hi Bill, I'm sure with all your meets with others they would tell you of the greater politics which drives whether interviews should be given by an individual or not. Yes at that time July 2008 certain events were about to play out taking me out of the scene completely. Will not detail in public here but can PM you some data. The changes re these power politics occur frequently. This year I have been available for interviews, even Miles Johnston (of Bases 2 DVDs) wishes further interviews. Politics between certain groups in UK and US often wrestle for control over an individual. This has been the case with me. Hope that clears that up or people might think the gagging is constantly in place. Might hear from you yet Bill?
Regards, Barry

[petem]

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

[Frank Samuel]

Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.