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Old 12-10-2009, 08:13 PM   #1
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here is a similar craft from Russia back in January

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2icG...eature=related
Looks like another failed rocket launch to me. Plume, stage separation at about 12 seconds, next stage is bad and goes out of control in spiral fashion. The plume looks very much like the videos I remember of many NASA launches and is typical of what the second stage looked like. The stage separation is also very typical of stage separations in these videos. The spinning could be due to any number of factors, but probably involves the control system sending the rocket nozzle hard over to one side because of a sensor or actuator failure. Like balancing a broom stick vertically in your hand, once it gets a little bit too far off to one side, there is no recovery.

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Old 12-10-2009, 08:24 PM   #2
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Ok so im confused what is this spiral thing a rocket or something else
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:31 PM   #3
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Ok so im confused what is this spiral thing a rocket or something else
Kind of like pyrotechnics IMO.



If it was Bluebeam, I am very disappointed. I expected something more spectacular, like what I've seen at the local international fireworks competition.

Now there's some great stuff
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:50 PM   #4
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Looks like another failed rocket launch to me. Plume, stage separation at about 12 seconds, next stage is bad and goes out of control in spiral fashion. The plume looks very much like the videos I remember of many NASA launches and is typical of what the second stage looked like. The stage separation is also very typical of stage separations in these videos. The spinning could be due to any number of factors, but probably involves the control system sending the rocket nozzle hard over to one side because of a sensor or actuator failure. Like balancing a broom stick vertically in your hand, once it gets a little bit too far off to one side, there is no recovery.
People would have been able to hear the rocket, plus rockets have contrails of smoke not blue plasma.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:23 PM   #5
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People would have been able to hear the rocket, plus rockets have contrails of smoke not blue plasma.
Most of what is in the videos appears to be out of the atmosphere. The distance to the launch point is unknown but could easily be many miles and once the rocket is out of the atmosphere sound will not carry.

Look at the full set of photos available. The blue is probably from a leak of unburned fuel or oxidizer. The white is rocket exhaust. Both are illuminated by the sun which is just over the horizon rather than self-luminous (note the red glow of sunrise near the horizon). In later pictures, both are still around but are becoming more diffuse like a cloud of droplets or smoke would. They don't just "switch off".

Norway spiral pictures on Gizmodo

I was really hoping this was some great cosmic mystery, but instead it is just the Russians giving new meaning to the word "screw up" (7 of 13 Bulava missile launches have failed). If it were some mystery, this might actually be on-topic!

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Old 12-12-2009, 09:51 PM   #6
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Update, 12/12/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 14,121

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 7,874

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 10,021,322

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 99,821,333

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:56 PM   #7
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Update, 12/12/09
Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 99,821,333
I got 99 problems and a glitch ain't 1.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:59 PM   #8
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Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 99,821,333
LOL Its one great big galactic disco on earth and by the way I brought ONE HUNDRED MILLION of my space friends with me!!! I hope they do make a scene!!

T3J I hope you are one of the first to get a personal flying saucer...right after me LOl...OK at the same time then!!! It might just be a merry christ mass showing after-all!
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:19 AM   #9
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LOL Its one great big galactic disco on earth and by the way I brought ONE HUNDRED MILLION of my space friends with me!!! I hope they do make a scene!!

T3J I hope you are one of the first to get a personal flying saucer...right after me LOl...OK at the same time then!!! It might just be a merry christ mass showing after-all!
We can have a drag race through time.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:42 AM   #10
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Here is another plasma spiral in Siberia on the 10th of December

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-qVs3wrUM
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:11 AM   #11
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hmmmmm...wild looking but I can not verify...have a look...interesting at the very least.


Рельное НЛО, или фейк?



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Old 12-14-2009, 01:30 AM   #12
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Looks like another failed rocket launch to me. Plume, stage separation at about 12 seconds, next stage is bad and goes out of control in spiral fashion. The plume looks very much like the videos I remember of many NASA launches and is typical of what the second stage looked like. The stage separation is also very typical of stage separations in these videos. The spinning could be due to any number of factors, but probably involves the control system sending the rocket nozzle hard over to one side because of a sensor or actuator failure. Like balancing a broom stick vertically in your hand, once it gets a little bit too far off to one side, there is no recovery.

I agree with you, it is a failed rocket launch or a failed new ufo device launch.
the spiral may just be the exaust of fumes burning in a swirling fashion.
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:36 AM   #13
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I agree with you, it is a failed rocket launch or a failed new ufo device launch.
the spiral may just be the exaust of fumes burning in a swirling fashion.
Its a blue plasma spiral with a rotating scalar spiral in the sky...Do you really think its a failed rocket? Really?

This is a failed rocket...and a 45 million dollar satellite! Bit of a difference

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Old 12-15-2009, 04:30 AM   #14
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidcZZTIU2A
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:16 AM   #15
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Perhaps a bit off topic, but I just want to share that this is one of my all time favourite threads! It contains everything PA was founded for.
It's funny & interesting.
Thanx for starting it up Tone3!
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:46 PM   #16
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Look at this

UFO pyramid shaped over Moscow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuanP2P41_I
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:40 PM   #17
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Thank you everyone who has had positive comments about what I am doing here.

Update, 12/16/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 16,111

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 9,156

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 13,542,363

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 107,833,393

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71

More than 50% of these mother ships are now supply ships. I think that most of these supplies are to ensure that people the world over have shelter, food, and water. Then the rest of them are probably secondary. I hope they have some light sabers.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:09 PM   #18
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I hope they have some books with actual knowledge

Like:

An idiots (human) guide to why quantum physics is full of bull s**

or

a history book with actual history
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:03 PM   #19
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I just want a light saber because it is a kick ass gadget.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:08 PM   #20
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records are stored holographically on disks !!!

however, they do have covers that morph/and, change
on lower densities/and, lower dimensions
as, you make choices
and, do things

gr8 thread ~ tone3jag

there's no doubt,
there is quite a war above our heads

love/susan
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:11 PM   #21
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I disagree about there being a war. Just a gathering of our peaceful galactic brothers and sisters who have compassion and want to help us.
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:03 PM   #22
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I disagree about there being a war. Just a gathering of our peaceful galactic brothers and sisters who have compassion and want to help us.
yes, i agree, the good guys are also up there ~ GOOD POINT

i thought that point, was an obvious one

related to ships etc.,

however, there are also, other things,

hanging in many densities/and, many dimensions - that clearly are NOT !!!
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:05 PM   #23
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You know, tone3jag, we know our stuff !!!
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:00 PM   #24
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I just want a light saber because it is a kick ass gadget.
Gadget? Slicing bread, cutting wood, ammm...emm...huh what can a light saber be used for...except the obvious... fancy illumination ?
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:44 PM   #25
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I just want a light saber because it is a kick ass gadget.
Yeah I agree.... I think a purple one like Samuel L. Jackson had is in order.
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