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Old 12-10-2009, 04:10 PM   #1
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it does not surprise me that the inuit have noticed changes.. i live in southern quebec, and i have notice changes....it seems to me that the winds have changed...
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:41 PM   #2
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Now, the sun comes up a little to the right, or south, if I'm calculating correctly. Anybody else notice this?
Yes. I recently was thinking that instead of appearing directly overhead, the sun is more south from where one would expect it to be.

I thought it was my imagination, but perhaps not....

What does this mean? IDK.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:43 PM   #3
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It's also a lot whiter than it used to be, not yellow any more
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:44 AM   #4
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It's also a lot whiter than it used to be, not yellow any more
Hi Swanny - I saw this old article when I was looking for a CBC podcast about the Mayan calendar, about the brightening and dimming of the sun. I do know that the sun has been dimming now too. I kind of attributed it to pollution and chemtrails. (Who knows!)

Bright sun made dark days in Mayan history
Last Updated: Friday, May 18, 2001 | 3:45 PM ET

Researchers have found a link between the evolution of the ancient Mayan civilization and the cycle of the sun. They say that every 208 years, the Mayans' homeland in Mexico was affected by droughts caused by the dimming and brightening of the Sun. And these droughts coincide with major events in Mayan history.

The researchers say the cycle coincides with the collapse of the classic Mayan civilization in the ninth century and the abandonment of pre-classic Mayan sites between 475 and 250 BC and between AD 125 and 210.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2001/..._ow010518.html

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Why the Sun seems to be 'dimming'
Last Updated: Thursday, 13 January 2005, 14:10 GMT
We are all seeing rather less of the Sun, according to scientists who have been looking at five decades of sunlight measurements. They have reached the disturbing conclusion that the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth's surface has been gradually falling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4171591.stm
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:06 AM   #5
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No sun, then what next -- no wind! How am I ever going to move off the grid!!!

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Hi Swanny - I saw this old article when I was looking for a CBC podcast about the Mayan calendar, about the brightening and dimming of the sun. I do know that the sun has been dimming now too. I kind of attributed it to pollution and chemtrails. (Who knows!)

Bright sun made dark days in Mayan history
Last Updated: Friday, May 18, 2001 | 3:45 PM ET

Researchers have found a link between the evolution of the ancient Mayan civilization and the cycle of the sun. They say that every 208 years, the Mayans' homeland in Mexico was affected by droughts caused by the dimming and brightening of the Sun. And these droughts coincide with major events in Mayan history.

The researchers say the cycle coincides with the collapse of the classic Mayan civilization in the ninth century and the abandonment of pre-classic Mayan sites between 475 and 250 BC and between AD 125 and 210.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2001/..._ow010518.html

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Why the Sun seems to be 'dimming'
Last Updated: Thursday, 13 January 2005, 14:10 GMT
We are all seeing rather less of the Sun, according to scientists who have been looking at five decades of sunlight measurements. They have reached the disturbing conclusion that the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth's surface has been gradually falling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4171591.stm
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:46 PM   #6
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it does not surprise me that the inuit have noticed changes.. i live in southern quebec, and i have notice changes....it seems to me that the winds have changed...
Hello Céline. I live in Temiscouata near the Maine border and noticed wind change too. I also noticed new species appearing in our region. We have more and more species coming from the south taking home in our valley. Golden Eagles were pretty rare when I was young, now they are here in just about all high places of the valley.

We see red headed vulture, or urubu that was not present before. Some new kind of large insect too, like large moth and large coleoptera.

We have also noticed new type of clouds in the area. Many of us here are observing the skies since childhood and these clouds are new here. It goes like the winds. Usually, the predominant winds were coming from the north east, because of the St-Lawrence valley. But now, it is the southern winds that are predominant bringing more precipitation than we used to have.

It would explain why we have a warming in the north pole but not global as the "specialists" are trying to make us believe. In fact, 2008 was one of the coldest year we had recorded since 50 years.

Namaste, Steven
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Old 12-11-2009, 02:16 PM   #7
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Interesting...I remember somewhere in one of eXchangers posts saying that the stars were in all different positions...I have also read this elsewhere..I'll try to track it down...if this is the case where will the new poles be ?? I read somewhere that they would be somewhere in Russia???

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Old 12-12-2009, 01:17 PM   #8
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Interesting...I remember somewhere in one of eXchangers posts saying that the stars were in all different positions...I have also read this elsewhere..I'll try to track it down...if this is the case where will the new poles be ?? I read somewhere that they would be somewhere in Russia???

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Hello, Viking. I also read eXchanger's post about the different position. She said 13 degree differential. My "eyeball trend analysis" was 15 degrees, based on a reference point at the back of my property (forested mountains). So, my estimate was fairly close to her information. I was "off" only two degrees out of 360. Now, what I will do is take a photo on Jan. 19 because I have a photo of the sunrise from last year on that date. Of course, there will be those who say that it isn't "scientific" nor "provable" but those are just terms that can be used for or against an argument. In the event of cloud cover forecast for that week, I will take photos a few days before or after, just in case. Then, we can check it out to see if the sunrise appears behind a different section of the horizon. LB
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:15 PM   #9
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The earth axis tilt is 23.44 degrees. The latitude at my house is 39.1 degrees. At the winter solstice at noon, this makes the angle of the sun from 62.54 degrees from vertical or 27.46 degrees above the horizon.

With a level, a protractor, and a nail (to create a shadow) I measured the angle of the sun from vertical at approximately 63 degrees, or 27 degrees above the horizon, today at 1:00 PM. The sun would have been at its highest point today at 12:39, so I was a little off. Also, my instrumentation is pretty crude and probably only good for +/- 1 degree, and it is not quite the winter solstice.

In any case, the measurement is quite close to the expected value.
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