VOYAGERS - Secrets Of Amenti

[Luminari]

[eleni]

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by eleni

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

Yes they are fabulous Eleni, glad you are enjoying it.. its KATHARA Level 1 that video series.



Thats no good about your shadow people, I might have to astral project over there and kick their shadow-butts.
Leave angelic Eleni alone!!

Love to you, hope tonight is better.

[Jonathon]

Originally Posted by eleni

Thanks for the last link Luminari- I'm already on part 13- excellent!

I read her books each night before bed and last night I had a pretty intense dream about the mechanics of the dimensional locks- I saw them and there was an opening that let in some negative entities- the entity was in my house and I tried to hide from it. I then tried to scream and no sounds came out- I them woke up and saw shadows in my room.

This morning my daughter's friend who slept over last night told me she saw shadows in the night and they really scared her. I told her about my nightmare.

Yikes - careful there eleni. May want to have someone take a look at you (there are some here who may be able to help you). Wonder what they were up to... I have heard that it is possible to get astrally tethered. In my opinion this happens via a contract that you enter to unbeknown to yourself. This gives me some concerns over the information you were reading before you went to sleep. We all have to be pretty careful about who/what we invite into our homes and minds (remember the mythology of the vampire).

I'll throw in a quick prayer for you just in case.

Hope this doesn't cause a negative response... don't feed it.

[Luminari]

Thats fine Jonathon..

And to the people private messaging me:

Respectfully, I am not answering any more questions re: this material.
The information speaks for itself. Time to do the work... you can speculate all you like but you will never know unless you read the books and watch the videos. This is wonderful empowering material on a higher level than anything else out there, I've done what I can to bring it to your attention. Ball is now in your court. Best of luck + love.

Luminari

[eleni]

Yes, agree about the material- resonates with me more than any other material I've come across in 30 years of being into this.I actually *remember* the material- I knew it when I was little. I once made a drawing of the universes/15 D time matrix and it looked exactly like hers- I can't remember whether I drew it before or after my first NDE back in 97.

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by Luminari

And to the people private messaging me:

Respectfully, I am not answering any more questions re: this material.
The information speaks for itself. Time to do the work... you can speculate all you like but you will never know unless you read the books and watch the videos. This is wonderful empowering material on a higher level than anything else out there, I've done what I can to bring it to your attention. Ball is now in your court. Best of luck + love.

Luminari

Well it's nice to know that you completely ignored my message. Thanks. I guess I should be happy though since most people just ignore me and I never know why.

For the record... I AM doing the work and reading the second book now.

This "community" is really starting to annoy me and I am not sure how much longer I am gonna be around. It feels more like a collection of people that lord their knowledge over others in an attempt to form some sort of hierarchy of people that are higher on the food chain of knowledge or something. That's the only thing that I can figure as to why the people here don't come together more and practice what they supposedly preach.

I'll think it over, but as Luminari so "eloquently" put it.... if I just need to "do the work" and read stuff online or in books, then I guess I don't really need this community of mostly skeptics anyway.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

Well it's nice to know that you completely ignored my message. Thanks. I guess I should be happy though since most people just ignore me and I never know why.

For the record... I AM doing the work and reading the second book now.

This "community" is really starting to annoy me and I am not sure how much longer I am gonna be around. It feels more like a collection of people that lord their knowledge over others in an attempt to form some sort of hierarchy of people that are higher on the food chain of knowledge or something. That's the only thing that I can figure as to why the people here don't come together more and practice what they supposedly preach.

I'll think it over, but as Luminari so "eloquently" put it.... if I just need to "do the work" and read stuff online or in books, then I guess I don't really need this community of mostly skeptics anyway.

Thats a shame you took offense Tempest, I thought I was polite & succinct.

I am not here to be interrogated by you or anyone else, if you look at this thread I have already been bending over backwards to help and answer questions.

My personal opinions and conclusions (being a beginner myself to this material) are totally irrelevant and not of help to you.

You also sent this to me;

The picture she paints in her books for humanity is not pretty one. She doesn't seem to believe that we have much hope

I really don't understand how you reached that conclusion at all, seems a very cynical perception that I did not get from reading the books..

Now you want discredit this "community", take a deep breath.
I know what its like to be ignored you wouldn't believe how many threads I have that no one seems interested in.. there's so many lovely people here but we are all different people with different priorities and interests and being here is so much more rewarding than not.

So what are you going to do now huh?! send me a bunch of abuse because I am a sovereign being and I didn't respond to your line of questioning?
Or are you humble enough to see that I am your friend and everything is going to be just fine.

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by Luminari

I am not here to be interrogated by you or anyone else, if you look at this thread I have already been bending over backwards to help and answer questions.

I asked you ONE question and this is the first time I have ever contacted you, so I hardly think I would call that interrogation. Also based on your answer here, I guess we all owe you since you went so far out of your way to help us.

This is exactly the attitude that I am talking about.... If you truly want to help other people, then this shouldn't bother you at all.

I really don't understand how you reached that conclusion at all, seems a very cynical perception that I did not get from reading the books..

That's because when I asked you this question I had not received Voyagers 2 in the mail yet and based on her radio interviews that I have listened to thus far, that is what I took away from the material she presents thus far. See, if you would have been polite enough to answer me back, I would have explained this further.

I know what its like to be ignored you wouldn't believe how many threads I have that no one seems interested in, I've learnt to get over it..

So, because it has happened to you before, that makes it okay to do it to others?

So what are you going to do now huh! send me a bunch of abuse because I am a sovereign being and I didn't respond to your line of questioning.
Or are you humble enough to see that I am your friend and everything is going to be just fine.

Calling my post abuse is a really dramatic way of stretching the truth.

My friend? I don't know you any better than the guy I pass on the street that I have never met. It seems that if you were my friend, you wouldn't have ignored me... pretty simple actually. I wouldn't have done that to people that I call friends.

[Luminari]

[Luminari]

[Sarahmay]

Luminari, I have most definitely appreciated your posts and you were instrumental in getting me off my duff to buy Voyagers 2, which I was planning to but hadn't gotten to.

Life changing, paradigm busting, illuminating...honestly, I will never look at things the same way and indeed I believe that my soul's direction will change course because of it. So thanks for your contributions (since you are probably feeling unappreciated right now).

[GaiaLove]

Get this thread back on track please and keep the personal issues in private message,
that's what they're for.
I will leave the posts as they are but will not hesitate to take action if this persists.

Thank you

[krystal]

Originally Posted by Luminari

YouTube- Anna Hayes - Bio Spiritual Healing Regenesis Lvl1 Part 1

Your Utube Videos are not working... you might want to remove them from here....

[krystal]

Wow, this stuff is really out there.... my brain is rolling around

[Luminari]

[Majorion]

You know, I see these kinds of very extensive materials all the time, full with diagrams and symbols and precisely detailed explanations, and I just think to myself; How on Earth could anyone just make all this up?

Undoubtedly, there is much truth to all these works.

Peace,

[Jnana]

When I see material of such complexity it triggers warning bells. The important truths are simple and uplifting. I don't understand why I should bother reading a bunch of detailed stuff that is more confusing than enlightening. The presentations seem to be designed to confuse - a mad rush through a bunch of topics. Maybe I'm just not ready for this.

[Luminari]

[morguana]

fab diagram lumi
bou x

[Luminari]

Welcome. For further explanations of the above refer to the Kathara manuals.

[Luminari]

[Sarahmay]

Originally Posted by Jnana

The important truths are simple and uplifting.

Wow. I think it is easier for some beings if you don't ask a lot of questions and don't rock the boat.

That is not my way.