Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes"

FIIISH · 11-13-2009, 03:02 AM

Quote:

I shall retreat in peace.

For those who's goal is to run people off this site, I hope you are happy.

Pablo's posts were a breath of fresh air to me.

Everyone is going to commit a faux pas now and then.

Do you choose to harp on it ad nauseum or forgive that person and move on?

Think carefully, because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

BROOK · 11-13-2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIISH

For those who's goal is to run people off this site, I hope you are happy.

Pablo's posts were a breath of fresh air to me.

Everyone is going to commit a faux pas now and then.

Do you choose to harp on it ad nauseum or forgive that person and move on?

Think carefully, because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

I understand your feeling about this...no one wants to be run off..and no one is running anyone off.
I certainly would feel bad if that happened to me.
However...there is a line that has been crossed here, and there had been plenty of opportunity to correct the situation...but instead..we get more of the same, in the way of Kittens, and satirical videos..a laugh in the face as I see it.
If you are aware that you have done something that has upset someone, would you not try to make it right with that person? I know I would. But nothing had been said until the "retreat".
In fact, there did not have to be a retreat...all there needed to be was a simple understanding, and removal of the picture. Simple! No?
So explain how that is running anyone off?
A breath of fresh air...maybe if you want to view things that offend..however, most here do not want to be offended.
That shoe will not be on my foot..as that is not something I would let go to this extent.

Lionhawk · 11-13-2009, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIISH

For those who's goal is to run people off this site, I hope you are happy.

Pablo's posts were a breath of fresh air to me.

Everyone is going to commit a faux pas now and then.

Do you choose to harp on it ad nauseum or forgive that person and move on?

Think carefully, because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

What's to forgive? You had someone who invaded others for no reason and when those people finally came out and revealed that because they were sick and tired of the multiplule faux pas as you call it, with a targeted intent, you are going to blame us for that? You are going to hold us responsible for someone's action of ill will? Is this what you are saying? I didn't ask him to leave. I also didn't ask him for his special treatment of ill will. Are you condoning his actions here by your statements? Obviously you are sending the message that it is alright to super impose your will over others as just a faux pas and now you want special treatment in return. Please. This wasn't just one instance for the record. All it did was create a bunch of unneeded chaos for everyone concerned. To save the trouble on the forgiveness issue, he can forgive himself. I'm not holding anything against him. But I don't have to enable this kind of thing. Use rape as an example. You are still imposing your will over others and is that alright to count that as a faux pas? Maybe rape is a little extreme but it is the same kind of thing that happened here along the lines of targeting certain people when they didn't even submit or provoke this kind of treatment. Sounds to me like someone needs to rethink about the shoes being on the right foot or not. Get real. Your awareness here as to what kind of issues this created could use some nurturing. Did you once put yourself in any of the shoes that was on the receiving end of this? You don't have to answer that. You already did in your post. And you think we are happy about the outcome? Where did that come from? There has been nothing glee full about it.

waitinginthewings · 11-13-2009, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIISH

For those who's goal is to run people off this site, I hope you are happy.

Pablo's posts were a breath of fresh air to me.Not to worry, I'm sure you will be able to find that breath of fresh air in the next forum he visits.

Everyone is going to commit a faux pas now and then.Its not the first time this has happened & he left & came back to do it all over again

Do you choose to harp on it ad nauseum or forgive that person and move on? By this do you mean that we should forgive him & let him continue to entertain you with his breath of fresh air?We are trying to move on, but you are the one to post without the facts..

Think carefully, because one day the shoe will be on the other foot.

I think most of us here are aware of our responsibility to ourselves & the members of this forum, & try to govern ourselves accordingly. If we slip up, of course we will endure karma, just like pablo. But it depends of what the intent of what you are calling a faux pas? If one acts with ill will intent, then of course there is karma. End of story.

Lionhawk · 11-13-2009, 04:25 AM

Just for you Waitinginthewings

Pantyhoser

FIIISH · 11-13-2009, 05:13 AM

Quote:

If one acts with ill will intent, then of course there is karma.

I will acknowedge that I may not know the whole story.

I have not been on the receiving end of whatever actions caused this
strife and therefore do not have the emotions that go with it.

I am still left wondering if ill intent is the issue, or just lack of consideration
and manners.

I am disturbed by what seems be a trend of intolerance towards others
here and that is what is driving my comments on this.

Perhaps I expect too much from this forum and the people on it.
We are only human after all.

bushycat · 11-13-2009, 05:50 AM

There is a Bohdhisattva among us who is remarkably original and knows of light and points to it in startling ways. He doesn't even know his own power.
Shunning comes from fear and ignorance. Let's take care here and tread lightly.

Love Always,
Bushycat

BROOK · 11-13-2009, 06:07 AM

bushy, with all due respect...what does that have to do with posting demonic evil pictures and laughing about it?

How dos one tread lightly in the face of evil?

bushycat · 11-13-2009, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

bushy, with all due respect...what does that have to do with posting demonic evil pictures and laughing about it?

How dos one tread lightly in the face of evil?

I did not see any evil. I do not wear rose coloured glasses. Evil is a perception. And if evil is headed right toward one, stepping lightly might be wise: leap out of the way. In other words, no fear.
What I meant, though, was if we step lightly,don't step on others' toes here and take off blinders and dwell in compassion, taking the next step might be easier.
There is no reason for me to argue here. That was really all I wanted to add.

With great respect to all,
BC

BROOK · 11-13-2009, 06:24 AM

No Bushy...I respectfully disagree..this picture is evil

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...1&postcount=47

and it is offensive...to step away from it, and walk around it gives it power.
It should have the light shown on it..then it will have no more power

Lionhawk · 11-13-2009, 07:14 AM

I know how you feel BushyCat. I once felt the same way. But one day I did take the blinders off and found that I had let my awareness field to be govern by my experiences instead of my soul. Hopefully you will discover this someday. Maybe your friend who doesn't know his power can teach you. Good luck with jumping out of the way in the meantime.

Extra Blessings to you.

14 Chakras · 11-13-2009, 07:35 AM

Nobodies perfect!

11-13-2009, 01:58 PM

Wow. Been to bed for the night and come back to find this thread has just exploded. Great thread. One of the most interesting reads for some time.

Must drop off az couple of messages/
Pablo. Don't worry mate we are all in the same boat. As we walk from the stern to the bow the view changes and we develope an awareness of the concious instant. You have many talents, that is sure, now is the time to find the right channel for them. This will help you in every aspect of what to do and when to do it. There is nothing to forgive in you, like there is nothing to forgive in those who brought the threads attention to the pictures. Words written or spoken carry as much wieght.

Mudra,

I think someone said it already. But brush up on what means what on the playing field presented before us. Also in finding your inner love, do not loose sight of the other emotions that make up your whole. Love

SG1965 The wooley jumpers thing. LOL LOL man like the imagery. May be I was just repeating what was alread said.

I saw someone said something about rules and regulations??? Not sure who but that doesn't matter. Like my name sake I don't agree with any rules or regulations. They have no part to play in conscious conversations or life in that realm. The only time they have relavence is in the dimension of matter. Structure etc. The only thing that I would like to see less of, and this way weed out the fishes,

, is the prediction front. I have a problem with that aspect. How can anyone believe that their reality is the devining one. You may believe that things will manifest for oneself. But not for a global aspect. There are alot of freewill people who will disagree with the predictions. I will never make one, not even that the sun will shine tomorrow.

Channel info must not be placed upon another as it is asking the other person to follow like a sheep. Only when one asks for infomation directly can aniother person through channeling give their point of view. This as I said earlier is one view and never can be considered the be all and end all.

What a GEREAT thread. Boy its been a long time coming. But where are the others from sometime ago, Astralwalker, Jonas, etc. Come people I know you look in from time to time. Your love of the conciousness is needed to help each other.

I admit this is the only post that I get really concerned with because the rest of the cat daog GFL and others just seem people popping one off??????

11-13-2009, 02:02 PM

Sorry another thing, whilst I am on a role. The Ghandi thing. This is a great lesson of how defeat an oppressing will. Such as the Wills that be. They don't have real power, so I think we should be honest with ourselves and address that idea that it is the Wills That BE rather than the Powers that BE.

I think it was Sitting Bull who replied to the question "Who are you?" He replied I am. When asked his Name he said They call me Sitting Bull. Not that his name was sitting bull. The difference is slight but makes all the difference.

Anchor · 11-13-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

No Bushy...I respectfully disagree..this picture is evil

and it is offensive...to step away from it, and walk around it gives it power.
It should have the light shown on it..then it will have no more power

(moderator hat off)

Brook,

You have claimed this many times in this thread, but it leaves me wanting for information to support the claim.

You appear to have done more than anyone including P4BLO to draw attention to the picture and give it "power", and every time anyone suggested not to do that you come back with - that it is "demonic" and has a "spell" on it.

I note that you have not explained in any significant or meaningful way what is "demonic" about that picture or what the "spell" was that was on it. Even if there was, I doubt that P4BLO knew about it. This site would be well served by such an explanation - that would be more on topic than most of the rest of this thread put together.

Just saying a picture is demonic does not make it so. It seems to me that this is where the word "demonizing" comes from.

A..

Malletzky · 11-13-2009, 12:48 PM

If you allow me to be a bit philosophical here, in no mean is this to offend anyone:

My first (subjective) premise: we’re all of the same descent. But nevertheless, we should be aware that as individuals, we’re very different. This is the way it’s meant to be.

My second (subjective) premise: there’s only one truth, and we’re all here in order to learn how to find this universal truth.

My third (subjective) premise: I am from the light, but I know there is darkness too.

Now: the individual human behaviour (in common, and please don’t forget that, no matter what we really are, we’re still “caught” in this what we call human body, this perfect constructed vessel with many mind limitations) on different issues in our everyday lives is exactly what has been mirrored here on this forum.

Our own individual energies, which we radiate around us, interfere all the time, no matter if we like it or not. And we’ve been exposed to these energies, again like it or not

Our written words reflect these energies and make them “visible” for the other. Some will feel these energies, some will not. But one should be considered: we’re all on a different level of understanding, on a different level of being able to feel these “other” energies. That’s all. That’s why we react different, that’s why we act different.

Now, what we see here on this forum, not only on this thread, are many truths...really many truths. And about the truth, we just shouldn’t underestimate the individual abilities of all other to handle their own truth.

What matter is the individual emotional attitude to accept that there are many other truths exposed here. This can be learned, but mustn’t. It can be learned by acting from within and searching from within. I don’t claim to have accomplished this, but I’m for certain trying to follow this way.

I said on a different thread (as some other said here on this thread too), that this forum has its own natural rules...very natural rules. And this brings me back on the beginning of this post: our energies interfere, it’s US who should be able to handle the “other” truths and accept it.

If we’re not able to vibrate that high (or that low) as the common vibration of this forum, we will leave...and this could happen to any of us, anytime!

So yes, we could see many individuals coming here...and going away...on their own...as their emotional attitude wouldn't allow them to handle OUR truth too...

My last premise: I will let you (you in common, no one particular) do whatever action you take, as long as I can feel your “positive” vibrations [be it from the “light side” or from the “dark side”...(oh how I struggle with this duality)].

But if I feel that you tend to harm me or other with your energies, I will show you my light. That’s all. This doesn’t mean that I will harm you anyway, as I can’t do this, I don’t even know how to...But you will definately notice that I have protected my self from the interference with your energies...latest then, when our paths disperse...

Sorry for the long and really philosophical post

.

with

and respect
malletzky

Anchor · 11-13-2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malletzky

Sorry for the long and really philosophical post

Don't be. It was one of the most intelligent and resounding posts I have read on this forum in ages.

Thanks

A..

Ross H · 11-13-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor

Don't be. It was one of the most intelligent and resounding posts I have read on this forum in ages.

Thanks

A..

Yes indeed, Thankyou.

Peace always

14 Chakras · 11-13-2009, 09:34 PM

Just came across this:

We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are ~ Anaïs Nin

rhythm · 11-13-2009, 10:02 PM

hello my loverly

seems like

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

and concepts..

BROOK · 11-13-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythm

hello my loverly

seems like

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

and concepts..

Had you actually read this thread..you would know that the picture was given no power..no fear here! Who do you believe has "bought into" such?

Not I....

Only indignation from being presented such darkness.

Quote:

the truth is nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

Tell that to the the families and the children who are missing every year...

Initiate · 11-13-2009, 10:43 PM

This kind of magic is the kind that uses our own conciousness. A lot like the Aboriginal concept of "Pointing the Bone". If we don't buy into it then it can't hurt us. It was purely artistic and that is that. It is the people that dwell in the dark that kidnap kids for rituals etc. not the art itself. Art is in the eye of the beholder and subjective.

BROOK · 11-14-2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Initiate

This kind of magic is the kind that uses our own conciousness. A lot like the Aboriginal concept of "Pointing the Bone". If we don't buy into it then it can't hurt us. It was purely artistic and that is that. It is the people that dwell in the dark that kidnap kids for rituals etc. not the art itself. Art is in the eye of the beholder and subjective.

I cannot speak for anybody but myself...but the above comment about missing children...has nothing to do with art...it has to do with the statement in it's full meaning...

Quote:

some are

beliving in

hell devils and demons....

to me

there is only energy

dark and light ..

where fear has enterd either of these

madness persues you till you

see that its come from lies and conditioning

and the truth is

nothing can or will ever hurt you ...

apart from youself buying in to

such dilliusion ....

This is a blanket statement....and is taken in full context. Buying into delusion?.....it is not a delusion what is happening ...these children are missing...there are no lies and conditioning to that about the darkness of it. It exists..and it is dark..and it is not created by fear and delusion.

FIIISH · 11-14-2009, 12:41 AM

Brook,

One thing I am curious about.

If references to the occult bother you, why do you have a
crystal ball as your avatar?

BROOK · 11-14-2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIISH

Brook,

One thing I am curious about.

If references to the occult bother you, why do you have a
crystal ball as your avatar?

Now that is interesting isn't it?

Maybe I was burned at the stake in a past life

11-13-2009, 04:25 AM	#5
Lionhawk Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sol, Terra 3, Florida, USA Posts: 329	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Just for you Waitinginthewings Pantyhoser

11-13-2009, 05:50 AM	#7
bushycat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 442	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" There is a Bohdhisattva among us who is remarkably original and knows of light and points to it in startling ways. He doesn't even know his own power. Shunning comes from fear and ignorance. Let's take care here and tread lightly. Love Always, Bushycat

11-13-2009, 06:07 AM	#8
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" bushy, with all due respect...what does that have to do with posting demonic evil pictures and laughing about it? How dos one tread lightly in the face of evil?

11-13-2009, 06:24 AM	#10
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" No Bushy...I respectfully disagree..this picture is evil http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...1&postcount=47 and it is offensive...to step away from it, and walk around it gives it power. It should have the light shown on it..then it will have no more power

11-13-2009, 07:14 AM	#11
Lionhawk Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sol, Terra 3, Florida, USA Posts: 329	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" I know how you feel BushyCat. I once felt the same way. But one day I did take the blinders off and found that I had let my awareness field to be govern by my experiences instead of my soul. Hopefully you will discover this someday. Maybe your friend who doesn't know his power can teach you. Good luck with jumping out of the way in the meantime. Extra Blessings to you.

11-13-2009, 07:35 AM	#12
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Nobodies perfect! Last edited by 14 Chakras; 11-13-2009 at 07:45 PM. Reason: oops was silly I don't like.

11-13-2009, 01:58 PM	#13
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Wow. Been to bed for the night and come back to find this thread has just exploded. Great thread. One of the most interesting reads for some time. Must drop off az couple of messages/ Pablo. Don't worry mate we are all in the same boat. As we walk from the stern to the bow the view changes and we develope an awareness of the concious instant. You have many talents, that is sure, now is the time to find the right channel for them. This will help you in every aspect of what to do and when to do it. There is nothing to forgive in you, like there is nothing to forgive in those who brought the threads attention to the pictures. Words written or spoken carry as much wieght. Mudra, I think someone said it already. But brush up on what means what on the playing field presented before us. Also in finding your inner love, do not loose sight of the other emotions that make up your whole. Love SG1965 The wooley jumpers thing. LOL LOL man like the imagery. May be I was just repeating what was alread said. I saw someone said something about rules and regulations??? Not sure who but that doesn't matter. Like my name sake I don't agree with any rules or regulations. They have no part to play in conscious conversations or life in that realm. The only time they have relavence is in the dimension of matter. Structure etc. The only thing that I would like to see less of, and this way weed out the fishes,, is the prediction front. I have a problem with that aspect. How can anyone believe that their reality is the devining one. You may believe that things will manifest for oneself. But not for a global aspect. There are alot of freewill people who will disagree with the predictions. I will never make one, not even that the sun will shine tomorrow. Channel info must not be placed upon another as it is asking the other person to follow like a sheep. Only when one asks for infomation directly can aniother person through channeling give their point of view. This as I said earlier is one view and never can be considered the be all and end all. What a GEREAT thread. Boy its been a long time coming. But where are the others from sometime ago, Astralwalker, Jonas, etc. Come people I know you look in from time to time. Your love of the conciousness is needed to help each other. I admit this is the only post that I get really concerned with because the rest of the cat daog GFL and others just seem people popping one off??????

11-13-2009, 02:02 PM	#14
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Sorry another thing, whilst I am on a role. The Ghandi thing. This is a great lesson of how defeat an oppressing will. Such as the Wills that be. They don't have real power, so I think we should be honest with ourselves and address that idea that it is the Wills That BE rather than the Powers that BE. I think it was Sitting Bull who replied to the question "Who are you?" He replied I am. When asked his Name he said They call me Sitting Bull. Not that his name was sitting bull. The difference is slight but makes all the difference.

11-13-2009, 12:48 PM	#16
Malletzky Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It doesn't matter any more Posts: 534	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" If you allow me to be a bit philosophical here, in no mean is this to offend anyone: My first (subjective) premise: we’re all of the same descent. But nevertheless, we should be aware that as individuals, we’re very different. This is the way it’s meant to be. My second (subjective) premise: there’s only one truth, and we’re all here in order to learn how to find this universal truth. My third (subjective) premise: I am from the light, but I know there is darkness too. Now: the individual human behaviour (in common, and please don’t forget that, no matter what we really are, we’re still “caught” in this what we call human body, this perfect constructed vessel with many mind limitations) on different issues in our everyday lives is exactly what has been mirrored here on this forum. Our own individual energies, which we radiate around us, interfere all the time, no matter if we like it or not. And we’ve been exposed to these energies, again like it or not Our written words reflect these energies and make them “visible” for the other. Some will feel these energies, some will not. But one should be considered: we’re all on a different level of understanding, on a different level of being able to feel these “other” energies. That’s all. That’s why we react different, that’s why we act different. Now, what we see here on this forum, not only on this thread, are many truths...really many truths. And about the truth, we just shouldn’t underestimate the individual abilities of all other to handle their own truth. What matter is the individual emotional attitude to accept that there are many other truths exposed here. This can be learned, but mustn’t. It can be learned by acting from within and searching from within. I don’t claim to have accomplished this, but I’m for certain trying to follow this way. I said on a different thread (as some other said here on this thread too), that this forum has its own natural rules...very natural rules. And this brings me back on the beginning of this post: our energies interfere, it’s US who should be able to handle the “other” truths and accept it. If we’re not able to vibrate that high (or that low) as the common vibration of this forum, we will leave...and this could happen to any of us, anytime! So yes, we could see many individuals coming here...and going away...on their own...as their emotional attitude wouldn't allow them to handle OUR truth too... My last premise: I will let you (you in common, no one particular) do whatever action you take, as long as I can feel your “positive” vibrations [be it from the “light side” or from the “dark side”...(oh how I struggle with this duality)]. But if I feel that you tend to harm me or other with your energies, I will show you my light. That’s all. This doesn’t mean that I will harm you anyway, as I can’t do this, I don’t even know how to...But you will definately notice that I have protected my self from the interference with your energies...latest then, when our paths disperse... Sorry for the long and really philosophical post . with and respect malletzky

11-13-2009, 09:34 PM	#19
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Just came across this: We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are ~ Anaïs Nin

11-13-2009, 10:02 PM	#20
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" hello my loverly seems like some are beliving in hell devils and demons.... to me there is only energy dark and light .. where fear has enterd either of these madness persues you till you see that its come from lies and conditioning and the truth is nothing can or will ever hurt you ... apart from youself buying in to such dilliusion .... and concepts..

11-13-2009, 10:43 PM	#22
Initiate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 391	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" This kind of magic is the kind that uses our own conciousness. A lot like the Aboriginal concept of "Pointing the Bone". If we don't buy into it then it can't hurt us. It was purely artistic and that is that. It is the people that dwell in the dark that kidnap kids for rituals etc. not the art itself. Art is in the eye of the beholder and subjective.

11-14-2009, 12:41 AM	#24
FIIISH Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 296	Re: Step up or "Thanks for all the fishes" Brook, One thing I am curious about. If references to the occult bother you, why do you have a crystal ball as your avatar?

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