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[14 Chakras]

Oneness is not sameness.

All life is meant to harmoniously work together and become More. The earth harmoniously moves around the sun, the sun through the galaxy, the galaxy through the universe. All life is interconnected, One, but not the same.

You are conscious, I AM conscious, the earth is consciousness, the Sun is consciousness, the galaxy is consciousness etc. All are individualization's of the infinite and very much alive. It is not about giving up the "I" and moving into sameness, that is an illusion.

It is about realizing all life is interconnected and then the I becomes much More.

Oneness is reality, but Oneness is not sameness. Oneness is infinite diversity in harmonious growth and interaction becoming More.

[hobbit]

14 chakras,
You are the one supporting seperateness.
you are stating that the earth is seperate from the sun, that it is circulating it, that the sun is circulating in the galaxy and that galaxy is moving about in universe.
I am proposing that quite litterally the whole universe is a sea, a one substance that every finite point is and can be anything.
We are composed within that sea on the surface of this planet which is a form of a bubble within that sea, therefore within the bubble a specific condition exists that we have defined as time.
that condition will be totally specific to the confines within the bubble.

each bubble will send out resonant omni directional waves into the sea of one, those resonant waves will meet and cause a stress in the dielectric structure of the one, this will create light of all forms, it will permeate through the bubble and cause creation.
The bubble interior is made of the one substance but that one substance is arranged and orientated locally into what it creates as elements and compounds of etc etc.
The earth is not seperate at all, space is merely the all aligned substance of the sea of one whereas within the bubble of spherical geometry all of what is created exists.
Flowing about within the whole of universe is the force, the lifeforce that is dualistic and constantly chases itself, that flow is TIME, and the density and momentum of it relative to the fractal geometry it creates and moves on as such ebbs and falls speeding up TIME or slowing TIME relative to the spiral fractal position where the created bubble is sited, the illusion is of movement of a seperate set of solids, where space is empty and a vacuum, and that illusion is compounded by that been repeated as fact for many repeating series of times.
You have just repeated that illusion by stating as fact that the earth circulates the sun.
I did ask how YOU know that?
ho0bbit

[14 Chakras]

P.S. I agree with you Hobbit that there are many levels of truth, and at a higher level, at the zero point energy field, there is no time. Time is an illusion, but as long as we are not in the zero point energy field, then there is time. We can enter a state of timelessness, that is beyond all time.

However, time will progress here and it is based on the choices of free will that all life is creating while they are in the time lines... time is an extremely complex subject of course with many layers of truth depending how you want to approach it.

Where you will find timelessness, where there is no time, is at the center of creation, one name for this is "the great central sun", as soon as you leave this, you in a time line of some sort. You can enter this nexus point while in embodiment and experience this, and as we are enlightened we will see there is only Now, however, time marches on here on this earth in this timeline. The divine timeline I believe will move us back into the Now that is much more beyond the illusion of time we are trapped in, but still, the earth will be on a timeline of sorts...

Fun subject to tackle though huh?

[14 Chakras]

Hobbit - "I am proposing that quite litterally the whole universe is a sea, a one substance that every finite point is and can be anything."

Think of a great Ocean. Yes, the Ocean is one Ocean, however, there are many different places within the Ocean, there are billions of lifeforms the Ocean supports, the lifeforms move in different ways. The Ocean itself moves. There are billions of waves on the Ocean top.

Now multiply this Ocean to the size of infinity and the diversity of life in it to the size of infinity and that is the kind of Ocean we move and have our Being in.

Yes, there is only One ocean, but there are infinite expressions of divinity within the Ocean, and there are infinite Oceans within the infinite Ocean too!

A unique expression is a beautiful thing not a bad thing. We are here to celebrate the unique expressions of Being not condemn them.

We are all interconnected and circling the heart of Being.

I like what you say Hobbit: "every finite point is and can be anything". I agree with this. It doesn't mean of course, that we are here to disappear, we are here to express the divine blue print that has been created for us at the level of our highest Self and continue to grow in truth and Self expression.

Oneness is all there IS, but there are infinite divine expressions of the One. Let us celebrate each one.

[hobbit]

14 chakras,
I sense if the true comprehension of this ONE can be better realised by the collective conciousness of all within this bubble about earth, then We can break the shackles that at present are imposed by this wrong perception of universe.
TIME is and will be relative to each condition of creation, all of this speed of light nonesense will only apply within the confines of each spherical area, and will be unique to the resistance imparted within that sperical area.
It is possible that at ceratain points time will not exist, and I sense time will almost not exist in what we term as space.
Anything we thrust out through the protective bubble area around this planet will still be part of this planet itself surrounded by a self same small bubble relative to here.
Nobody has or can be in space, they have to be confined within a protective bubble similer to where they were created.
I suspect that more advanced lifeforms know how to modulate this protective bubble to match any similer resonce field, and thus they will almost instantly be at that self same zone, they cannot be anywhere else other than where that creation zone is.
We are ascribing the time relative to here and imposing it on the rest of universe , thus they talk of millions of light years, total nonesense, there will be hardly any time where the one substance is all aligned, it will be a super conductive area, no resistance at all.
I agree about it been a fun and challenging subject, and its about TIME We better understood it, and stop acting as sheep or parrots blindly repeating what we are told to repeat.
hobbit

[14 Chakras]

Hobbit - "true comprehension of this ONE can be better realized by the collective consciousness of all within this bubble about earth, then We can break the shackles that at present are imposed by this wrong perception of universe."

I agree that it is the truth that will set us free.

Something important to consider, no matter what we believe to be true, this will not change our world, nor will it change our way of being.

Regardless of what we believe about time, the relativity or reality of time, will this really change anything?

An important line is that "we will KNOW the truth, then the truth will set us free."

I believe the only way forward truly is not by changing our beliefs, but rather to experience truth.

How to do this?

Should we intellectualize the concept of time? Or should we experience the Now beyond time?

I believe the way forward is through experience, not beliefs.

People talk about Oneness, including myself, people talk about Now and time, but until we actually experience what we are talking about, then what is the point really?

The key to the raising up of humanity is in the knowing, not the believing. The only way to truly know, is to experience truth.

So I like the idea of moving past the beliefs that hold us back, including the beliefs about time, but the way to transcend them is not so much through ideological agreements, rather through experiencing the reality beyond time, experiencing Oneness, experiencing Being 'at one ment' with the creative consciousness.

I agree that surrendering our limiting beliefs is a step in the right direction. But rather than replace them with another belief, we must seek the experience that will make us the knower rather than the believer. Then we must seek more experience, as no non-linear experience can be properly understood when it is brought into linear thought. Instead, we must Be the experiencer, rather than the believer.

Experience will lead to knowing, and knowing the truth, is the Way the truth will set us free.

Experience is the key.

What do you think?