Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?

[mudra]

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Loving kindness
mudra

[mudra]

Thank you Artvision ,

You are a good man . I appreciate the good will you are showing.
And I do feel the heartfelt passion that guides you on your path.
I know TtC and Northern are working on some drafts and outlines too.
When they are ready they will post it here as well.
All you come up with is welcome .
Keep up the good work

Loving kindness
mudra

[artvision]

Originally Posted by mudra

Thank you Artvision ,

You are a good man . I appreciate the good will you are showing.
And I do feel the heartfelt passion that guides you on your path.
I know TtC and Northern are working on some drafts and outlines too.
When they are ready they will post it here as well.
All you come up with is welcome .
Keep up the good work

Loving kindness
mudra

Thank you, Mudra!

[Northern Boy]

Which of the fleas owns the dog? Which of the leaves owns the tree? If there can be such a thing as ownership, does not the grass have first claim to the land? Or cannot the trees make the same claims? The secret of possession is this, when you make a claim of possession.. that which is claimed to be the possession is not the possessed, that distinction lies with the owner.

[BROOK]

Since you wanted to link this thread with the proposition thread...I had a response...here it is

This is in answer to this statement:

i agree with jonathon and judyknot, i myself am an indigo, not that makes much a difference, but many of you are judging him in a very defensive position. indigos are generally misunderstood. i don't care what age he is, it's the soul age that counts.

Brook, shame on you, you're putting your own dirt out there. you are afraid and feel hurt so you lash out.

i find his proposition refreshing. he's offering a solution and CREATING something positive. what are you doing brook?

I was in meetings all day at work, then checked my email...full of "you need to sign on and see this"..so I did.

After over 1500 posts to this forum, this is all I'm going to be remembered for?

I would hope I would be remembered for threads like these...

The gentle art of Blessing
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15327

Healing with Love
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=14431

Everything Moon
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=14739

Can we create a Miracle
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=14117

Who am I
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=13805

And for appreciation to the Mods out there
There's no Place like home
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=13907




And all I'm going to be judged for is the stupid thread?

This is what you are all going to remember me for?

Well, to put some closure to where I stand, and the comments and judgement made about me ...

I have always been a fighter for the injustice....and when I see something that I feel is wrong, I'm going to state my feelings....got that from my mother...bless her soul.
Where this thread stands..I felt I saw something very wrong..and I still do.
Here you have an Indigo boy who cannot speak for himself..at this point I still do not see one very important part that needs to be addressed....

Ttc...What is your vision of these communities you are building? Very simple....


Dolphin...you use the excuse that "Indigos are generally misunderstood. i don't care what age he is, it's the soul age that counts."

certainly with all of that soul age ...he has learned to speak for himself, instead of having Mudra and a few others speak for him.

And with that soul age he has learned some wisdom to be able to expel the doubt that is racing through the minds of many here.

If not so be it.....but I will ask you all this.....

Here is a 20 year old Indigo..with a vision at the age of 12, who has decided to build radient zones....and has personally told me about 4 days ago that he does not believe there will be a world catastrophe, and does not believe there is a NWO.

With that in mind..I again ask the question...what is the vision here? Why build these communities?....and why is every body so intent on going to a radient zone...if for not that very purpose?

If we are just starting communities for the purpose of Commune...then so be it...state that purpose...but I think that the reason George Green, Kerry Cassedy, And Bill Ryan have decided these things are relevant, are because of the impending possible need for them in case the SHTF....and for many I think this is a good idea....wow did I say that?

Yes I did say that...It's a good idea. Imagine that.

However...there is too much wrong here, and I will say it again...
There is too much wrong here.

I can only imagine things, like people investing their hard earned labor...the "less then fortunate"... developing all of this land, building all of these buildings, and shelters..only to have the land sold out from under them, and being told to move along...with a severance pay....Not the utopia I believe they had their dream pinned on...and certainly not what they would expect...but this is only one question I had that did not get satisfactorily answered. There are many other questions that did not get answered.

These are the questions that I would advise anyone investing money into, or their blood sweat and tears into, before getting involved.

That being said....about this thread....Dolphin...What dirty laundry are you speaking about?

The only dirty laundry I have is in the hamper upstairs. If you are speaking about the PM's that ttc posted, and the mods asked me if I wanted removed, and said no, and he did not put the parts where he was being rather telling...well, here is what you are seeing...

After being asked to check out this guy and his "proposition"...I applied..and I made it sound like I was well off but would leave it for Utopia.

What you saw there was me fishing for information...plain and simple..looking for answers ...no dirty laundry there Dolphin. Not even a picture of what I am...just leading a horse to water is all.
There are several other scenarios I can come up with that would fit this proposition, but I think you are all adults, and Indigo, enlightened Lightworkers or not...just take heed.

As far as ttc goes...He sent me quite a nice message 4 days ago when he saw I was leaving....and left a quote from Aleister Crowley..."Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." not before telling me, "I doubt very much that there will be a global cataclysm or a NWO, but that is what people believe. I cannot create in someone else's reality."
It was actually very SWEET...but left me with even more questions...again why build these radient zones if he does not believe that these things will come to pass?

In your comment Dolphin..you say...I'm afraid and feeling hurt.....first of all,

The only hurt I have had on this thread so far is from you...the judgement of me after all of the posts I have contributed to this forum and this is your judgement of me?
Hurt from ttc...not...I can only bless him and hope he makes the right choices and follows a path, one that will teach him some of that "soul wisdom" you speak of, so he can actually treat people with some respect...and If you had read the thread...,I was not the only one who checked out his proposition and got a very bad vibe, and rude words. And I am not the only one that has questions..

I am the one that stood toe to toe with him though, and fought to get the truth...so is that the the fear you speak of?

I do not fear ttc, I do not even fear death...I actually welcome it..I cannot wait to go home again...this 3D is great, and I cherish it very much, but I, who do not label my self anything other then human, have a knowing....a knowing that the real deal is out there, and this is only a small part of the whole.

Do I want to go to radient zone.....No

I am here for one purpose only...to create, and I feel I have a mission to be here when the SHTF, and I do believe it will, and be there for the ones that are in need. I will not go to a radient zone..I will stay and help all those I can...I will be there for the disabled, the blind, the mentally handicapped...because this is part of my mission..I have worked with all I speak, and even though that is not the the work I do at the present, this is my mission...to gently guide those in need to help them awaken. To be with the ones that are lost, and don't know about radient zones.

I am not afraid to stand up to the darkness, and shine the light of truth.

I am not afraid if the State of California goes in the ocean...because it is not a place I have not been before.
I would gladly welcome the journey home, to start it all over again.

To all of you who think this thread is all I have contributed...I'm truly sorry for that..but I have always stood up for what I thought was right. In this thread I said what I thought..forgive me if speaking my mind was something that you find unacceptable...but I will always do it, and continue to do it for the rest of my days is this 3D existence.

With love and light I bid you Blessings.

[Northern Boy]

good reply lets ask ourselves why would someone Quote this man Aleister Crowley ? I`m sure it isn`t for his saintly Qualities

[artvision]

Dears,

I'm new between you, a novice.

Dears, look I started to read latest posts here and I thought my bookmark link is wrong, guiding to other thread, another thread different at all than what was at beginning.

Then I looked in the upper page and I read:


Re: Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?


These things from lately, have nothing to do with what we are suppose doing here, according with the title; sorry my debate going nowhere with WinterWolf, seems triggered other people old resentments go out to surface, I do not know...

Let's try to burry the hatchet of war and try use that formidble energy not fighting each other, but constructing for each other.

I WROTE THAT, NOT BECAUSE I PULING EARS SOMEBODY (far from me that thought, I'm not in that moderator position here and never liked that pulling ears of someone) BUT I FEEL RESPONSIBLE AFTER I CARRIED OUT THAT RECKLESS DEBATE.

... and one of the B's from my signature is making to me sneaky eye signs ... that B from Brains...

__________________
SURVIVAL=5B's
Belief, Brains, Beans, Bullets, Band-Aids

[Oliver]

Good. Now we are inpatiently expecting the TtC and Northern Boy proposals and drafts, so we can analyze and compare all of the proposals given so far. If there are common elements, we could start to establish them as recommendation patterns, untill we get some whole possible structure of the RZ community.

Respect

[Oliver]

Bless you, Brook!

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Oliver

Bless you, Brook!

Thank you Oliver..and may your endevor of finding and building a radient zone serve you well....

It is of the opinion I do not believe that radient zones should be built...on the contrary....I just live in a world where I have seen people of good hearts, get burned very badly.

If a radient zone is what you are seeking..may your journey be safe...and you follow the path of light and love.

[artvision]

Tried to paste document, but an error happened!

[Northern Boy]

it was there for an instant now gone

[artvision]

Here is the suggested outline for the Radiant Zone Guide. Feel free to suggest more things, or to delete from that outline. I would kindly like when suggesting something, please specify where you want to add:.

Always say in reference to complete number. Example:
Reference to 1.2.12 I do want to add: The signs for SHTF are:....."(just as an example how to refer to different paragraphs)

Awaiting your feedbacks!

Artvision
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RADIANT ZONE GUIDE

INTRODUCTORY WORD

Here is a guide outliner based on different books and documents read.

This doc is desired to be just as an outliner, meaning a collection of important issues that should not be overlooked when someone decide to create a Radiant Zone, that is a place of relative safety when SHTF, in our volatile world we live in.

What should be then of most value that a collection of proven be working advices, of how to organize and make that retreat without give too much thought when is pressure of world coming apart. Of course one can read things on internet, but when the time is pressing, you need put in pace a lot of things, systems, etc. With our collection at hand, we want to believe, you will find some pertinent answers.

This document is hosted on the Avalon Forum, where the concept of Radiant Zones emerged, or at least started being documented. Our desire is all the people can read, comment and contribute to it. Thus, we need people with some experience in these related disciplines, covered here, to give us a feedback, offer information, or to correct issues.

Everything is open to debates and the final goal will be, to create "The Radiant Zones Guide", such as a set of directory lines, if somebody will follow up, will be in a safe side when a major SHTF scenario will hit.

We need to prune first this draft outliner, then we will flesh up each chapter and subchapter with information. Please, that everything you are stating, you must to offer the reason, or the rationale for that, just be convincing even for non seasoned people in that matters.

Will be a difficult and painful job, but the outcome that is a helper for people in case of need, will be much worthing the effort, also I want to start our work with the words of God, which is recommendable to do in any initiative of ours:

"Prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished. "[Proverbs 27:12]

All the best!
Artvision
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1. RATIONALE ABOUT THE RADIANT ZONE

1.1 What Are Radiant Zones
1.1.1 Define the Radiant Zones

1.2 Questions about Radiant Zones
1.2.1 Intrinsic need for safety of humans is the base to start a Radiant Zone
1.2.2 Is the survival instinct good? But is moral? Is intrinsic coded in the genetics of every living beings. How can humans evolve from the basic existentialist desire and reach other forms?
1.2.3 We should think as: The concept of continuity of government, COG, survival of the fittest as Darwinist concept?
1.2.4 Or maybe, our survival idea is based on other mentalities rather than pure selfish instinct of survival as we see in government mentality, such Darwinist concepts
1.2.5 The world around us is on a verge of collapse-can we see that
1.2.6 Do we want be staying in affected places of SHTF and be susceptible to massive trauma even death, or we try escape?
1.2.7 Why do I need join with a bunch of other people? Isn't enough if I manage myself to escape for the first wave of the SHTF? Why should I listen and act also in benefit for the others? Why if the decision of other are endangering my personal security?
1.2.8 How we can avoid asking ourselves devastating questions such as above?
1.2.9 How the people you will be with!
1.2.10 Is worth the effort and resources consumption for make a safe Zone?
1.2.11 What if the SHTF never happening?
1.2.12 What are the signs showing a SHTF is approaching or just start to rollout?


1.3 Possible SHTF scenarios
1.3.1 Economic Crash, banks, currency, stock crash
1.3.2 Chemical attack or just damaging a nearby chemical plant
1.3.3 Nuclear threat
1.3.4 Dirty bomb terrorist threat
1.3.5 Devastating meteorological event: tornados, massive storms
1.3.6 Earthquakes
1.3.7 Massive land slides
1.3.8 Eruption of volcanos
1.3.9 Extended famine caused by excessive drought
1.3.10 EMP from sun or man produced
1.3.11 Take over of the government by the underground forces
1.3.12 Psychotronic attack of many important cities and towns of a nation
1.3.13 Chaos created by the imminent landing of ET
1.3.14 Total disruptment of our society by an alien attack
1.3.15 Devastating war
1.3.16 Devastating Pandemics such 1918
1.3.17 Release of biological agents such Staphylococcus aureus, or Necrotizing Fasciitis or a new type of plague of unknown origins, or maybe Bird Flu
1.3.18 Total disruption of International naval transport due to some marine extraterestrial attacking the vessels, leading to a profound lack of goods in many part of the globe
1.3.19 An extraordinary fast and massive cool down of some regions, leading to a total collapse of that region
1.3.20 A meteoritic impact followed by a shower of small meteorites, falling over a large surface of earth
1.3.21 The magnetic poles of Earth heavily shifted by the influence of a nearby passing of a celestial body
1.3.22 Utterly degradation of the human DNA, leading to massive epidemics of cancers and tumors, in a large part of population. Nobody know why, but is feared there is a new type of high energy particle weapon fired form Deep Space.
1.3.23 Destruction of a large surfaces of Terra, in the area heavily exposed to chemtrails where these chemtrails are filtering the light but letting UV passing trough, acting such a focal lens
1.3.24 Major disruption of our society because all the satellites and flying craft are shoot down by some unknown entities
1.3.25 Massive social revolts, riots and upheavals in relation with the current economic crisis, job cuts and overall deterioration of living standard.

1.4 Is worth for me, to engage in a Radiant Zone or not?
1.4.1 PRO's:
1.4.1.1 Possibility of saving your life and the family
1.4.1.2 Good way to met and become friend with like minded persons
1.4.1.3 Lots of things to learn, lots of skills to acquire
1.4.1.4 Living in the nature, with a more ecological prospect than living in city

1.4.2 CON's:
1.4.2.1 Cost, time and emotional implications
1.4.2.2 Maybe family member mock on me calling me a cuckoo!
1.4.2.3 Other can call us fear mongers or hysterics?
1.4.2.4 What if never arrive to the Radiant Zone After SHTF?
1.4.2.5 What if I'm not getting along with the rest of the members after a while when tensions increasing
1.4.2.6 What if governments ban such remote area retreats, on flimsy grounds?

1.5 PEOPLE - consolidating the GROUP
1.5.1 Startup-ers
1.5.2 Members Selection Criteria
1.5.2.1 Good Behaving
1.5.2.2 Similitude
1.5.2.2.1 Same Mindset
1.5.2.2.2 Same Wishes & Desires
1.5.2.2.3 Same religion (or at least non antagonistic!)
1.5.2.3 Skills: to be cover multitude important qualification
1.5.2.3.1 Doctors, Nurses, Dentists
1.5.2.3.2 Militars
1.5.2.3.3 Agriculture and cattle raising
1.5.2.3.4 Mechanics: auto, different issue
1.5.2.3.5 Electricians/Electronists
1.5.2.3.6 Carpenters
1.5.2.3.7 Blacksmits
1.5.2.3.8 Gunsmiths
1.5.2.3.9 IT
1.5.2.3.10 Logistics
1.5.2.3.11 Cooking
1.5.2.3.12 Preserving Foods
1.5.2.3.13 Educators, professors
1.5.2.4 What can that member offer
1.5.2.4.1 Skills
1.5.2.4.2 Knowledge
1.5.2.4.3 Stuff personally accumulated for survival can share
1.5.2.5 Voting in accepting new members
1.5.3 Sharing the responsibilities
1.5.3.1 According with training & skill
1.5.3.2 All should be aware that need to work together and no fuss about
1.5.3.3 All should learn military training, health exercises, bit of crafts, agriculture
1.5.4 People need meet periodically before start construct Radiating Zone, retreat etc

1.6 Searching a proper zone
1.6.1 Factor take i account when selecting a Radiant Zone

1.7 Starting Organizing a retreat
1.7.1 Establish Book of conduit
1.7.1.1 Democratic: 1 person=1 vote
1.7.1.2 example: Native Indians Code of Ethics
1.7.1.3 Amish People
1.7.2 Establish set of procedures: "what to do if, that or that happens"
1.7.3 Establish what scenarios will cover their retreat
1.7.4 Establish what will be their supplies, provisions of food, medical, fuels, etc
1.7.5 Establish their tools, weapons and ammunitions
1.7.5.1 Important rule: Interchangeability: not to many different types of same issue
1.7.5.1.1 By that, parts from one can be replaced to another, also storing a limited number of parts will increase the probability find something when need
1.7.5.1.2 AMMO calibers be easy swappable between guns, pistols, etc
1.7.6 Establish their systems of protection
1.7.7 Establish system of defense
1.7.8 Establish system of communication



2. TO BUG-OUT FROM YOUR HOUSE WHEN SHTF, OR JUST LIVE IN RETREAT, WELL IN ADVANCE?

To Bug-Out from your home that is in the middle of the problem and try to make it hundreds or maybe thousands of KM to arrive in the retreat when the world started already to disintegrate, when roads are infested with non moving car because no gasoline, or just live comfortably to the retreat, in the Radiant ZONE already?
It is an important decison!
But if your life, responsibility are requesting you to live away from the retreat, at least you should keep the most of provisions of food, water, equipment, tools and medicines, at retreat already in the responsibility of a caretaker.
Watch for the signs for the collapsing of society and bug-out immediately is possible.
For doing safely that distance and arriving in one piece at the retreat, you should prepare the vehicle, with food, important documents, valuableas and defensive means. Try not take all house with you. As light go, more sure will arrive retreat after SHTF.
All procedures in places, maps, etc should be prepared in time.

2.1 Dilemma Bug-Out or permanently live in retreat
2.1.1 Bug-out when SHTF
2.1.1.1 Will be Dangerous
2.1.1.2 Difficult to arive to Radiant Zone
2.1.2 Live already in the retreat
2.1.2.1 Seems better option
2.1.2.2 Maybe boring
2.1.2.3 Will get used with the people and accumulate needed skills

2.2 Store stuff in advance in retreat
2.2.1 Because when SHTF limited amounts can be transported
2.2.2 All the food, medicines and hardware should already be stored in RZ
2.2.3 Mostly heavy gear, food provisions, grains
2.2.4 This leads to problems if non live in retreat who will rotate all that food
2.2.5 Better there is already a family or two, look after the retreat, all time

2.3 For Bug-Out well prepared in advance
2.3.1 Watch carefully after signs SHTF is about start; share info within your circle
2.3.1.1 Watch the financial news regularly; Stock composed indices
2.3.1.2 Keep informed from internet
2.3.1.3 Listen in Short waves other countries / continents radio broadcastings
2.3.1.4 Watch any strange movements of people, troops or other changes in the city
2.3.1.5 Keep scnning the frequencies of Police, Firefighters, Hospitals Ambulance System, Sherrif, truck driver communications: everything locally on radio communication in clear
2.3.1.6 Keep a listening on HAM bands, maybe make announcement of perils, etc
2.3.1.7 Watch the sky and any abnormalities
2.3.1.8 Watch carefully of the Meteorological Bulletins for Tornados, Huge Storms
2.3.2 Bug-Out Vehicle
2.3.2.1 Always in pristine technical condition
2.3.2.2 Always with full tank
2.3.2.3 Keep always fuel in canister to cover 3 times distance fto retreat
2.3.2.4 Vehicle should have a survival kit all the time, itself!
2.3.2.5 Most possible to break parts should have been stored in vehicle
2.3.2.6 An diversified tool kits for vehicle
2.3.2.7 Vehicle Technical repair manual
2.3.3 Bug-Out Kit
2.3.3.1 Most important: Maps with all counties in between to retreat-use of communal roads only; be marked on the maps, then maps be plastified after markings
2.3.3.2 Most valuable jewelery
2.3.3.3 Food&Water for all travellers, 3 x times more days than trip to retreat
2.3.3.4 Laptop with all scanned documents and contact list, guides, etc
2.3.3.5 Memory stick with all documents as a backup copy or laptop lost/damage
2.3.3.6 Communication system between members or between cars-talkie walkie
2.3.3.7 Weapons for self protect during travel
2.3.3.8 Diversified Medical kit; do not forget take prescripts meds for chronic
2.3.3.9 Cash: small bills, different currencies, maybe silver/gold coins
2.3.3.10 Credit/debit cards: always use it first if still work, before resort to cash
2.3.3.11 Most Important documents (besides it scanned)
2.3.3.11.1 Printed list with contacts of all relatives, friends, etc
2.3.3.11.2 ID's
2.3.3.11.3 Passports
2.3.3.11.4 Certificates: Birth, Marriage, Deceased, etc
2.3.3.11.5 Contracts: Insurance, etc
2.3.3.11.6 Deeds: Property, land
2.3.3.11.7 Tax related documents (even maybe never needed, never knows)
2.3.4 Keep in touch with all your supporters, relatives, friends
2.3.4.1 Use Phone, Mail for exchanging info during first phases of SHTF
2.3.4.2 When usual comm net are down, use CB/HAM radios
2.3.4.3 When not possible use people going there as messengers

2.4 Procedure should be in place for everything, all should be known and reherased in advance. When SHTF we should work like swiss clock!
2.4.1 Procedures for evacuating house in maxim 1 hour
2.4.2 Procedures to assure and stop before leaving all utilities, gas, electric



3. ORGANIZING RETREAT

Is one of most demanding jobs. Do not ever forget:
"We are creating in the Radiant Zone, a mini-society!"
Expect all the tares from the existing one, to manifest also in the small one. But with some sweeteners! We will join it by good will and we will be surrounded with people with same mentalities, we have been chosen ourselves!
Will be based on the democratic approach, between people with same ideas, mentalities and mindset (otherwise we wouldn't form that community, in the first place) therefore responsible and well wishing people.
When there is time to debate and there are to decide things will affect everybody, then the voting approach will be chosen.
When there is a life/death situation, when there is important the decision taken in an instant, then is the community leader call, to take that decision. Therefore that lader, is very important and should be designated by voting, by the memebers, one of the most trusted, skillful and cold head available from that Radiant Zone group.
Not only leader, but also the new members should be apporved or disapproved by older members
For this activity, someone should keep a log (most probable the, Logistics responsible), where be written down the resolutions made along with most important moments for the community (births, marriages, deaths).

3.1 Voting System - Decision for important matters
3.1.1 Will be used for all important matters
3.1.2 Democratic - 1 person = 1 vote
3.1.3 Election for community leader

3.2 Scheduling Community Life
3.2.1 Tasks
3.2.2 Chores
3.2.3 Day & Night Watch Shifts
3.2.4 Classes
3.2.5 Training

3.3 Religious life for different confessions from group

3.4 Keep Good Morale
3.4.1 Activities as Morale booster
3.4.1.1 Birthdays
3.4.1.2 Religious day celebrations
3.4.1.3 Country day celebration for different ethnics in group

3.5 Day to day Decision taking
3.5.1 Minor Issues
3.5.2 Fast response issues
3.5.3 Life/Death threats and situation need leader assuming responsability

3.6 Delegation of Activities responsible Persons
3.6.1 Job Description
3.6.1.1 Definition of Activity Description & Task Incurred
3.6.1.2 What to do, what responsibilities they have
3.6.2 Logistics responsible - The STOREKEEPER
3.6.2.1 General caretaker for retreat & Storage Facilities
3.6.2.2 Keep a detail Material Log Book registery: what we have, what required, what need to produce, gather, barter, etc
3.6.2.3 He must be able raise alerts when stocks of most important items close to finish
3.6.2.4 At all time he need tell group what is the status for Beans, Bullets and Band-Aids, generally speaking
3.6.3 Security & Defense officer - GI Joe
3.6.3.1 Must be experienced and military trained
3.6.3.2 He must organize the security: of retreat, perimeter and patrolling neighborhoods
3.6.3.3 He must to decide and inform group about possibility of group face and defeat the threat, or asses threat so major that group need abandon
3.6.3.4 He must organize and lead the military training
3.6.4 Health responsible - DOC
3.6.4.1 An doctor or at least a nurse or para medic
3.6.4.2 Should be able satisfactory handle the health problems of the group, child-birth, injuries, poisoning, other accidents
3.6.4.3 Should be able to manage with scarce resource
3.6.4.4 Would be desirable to lean towards traditional medicine (medicine expire or end stock)
3.6.5 Intelligence officer - INTEL GUY
3.6.5.1 His job will be to collect information gathered from communication systems (radio, scanners, following broadcasting), information from patrolling, etc. He make a report of outstanding situation that can lead to a threatening situation for retreat. He is collaborating with security and community leader in finding a solution.
3.6.5.2 All the events from patrolling and different observation from watch shifts, etc will be reported to him. If need immediate reaction, together with security responsible and community leader will decide
3.6.5.3 What the group intelligence try to find? Everything: news from the far world, what did the next rural neighbor happened with his cattle, everything, because everything can lead to threats to the community
3.6.5.4 He must be an bright person, with curiosity, capacity of listening others and extract relevant informations
3.6.6 Agribusiness responsible - FATHER OF THE LAND
3.6.6.1 The person should have been lived at country side for a while, he/she must know the wheelings and dealings of farming, cattle arising
3.6.6.2 He must be able to asses what the group can seed, how much, where and when to seed and when harvest
3.6.6.3 Must have a good knowhow of handling with animal problems
3.6.7 Systems responsible - HANDY MAN
3.6.7.1 Everything that is running in the retreat must kept so.
3.6.7.2 Whatever parts, materials needed he must know to handle or where or who to ask.
3.6.7.3 The perfect handyman
3.6.7.4 A broken toilet, a running sink? No problem, because he will fix
3.6.8 Cooking Responsible - CHEF
3.6.8.1 What people need most after water shelter is food. Good, tasty and with right amount of calories, vitamins, and minerals. Chef, must gracefully must handle that, without too many complains nor intoxications!
3.6.8.2 Must have hands on cooking, also cooking in prmitive condition, mostly with stocked ingredients. Chef must know to combine the dried tasteless stock food, with something fres, to assure the vitamin and minerals for the group
3.6.8.3 Some old 1900 cooking book, a wooden stove which manage in the end to control, would be a start!
3.6.8.4 Also to get a kiss or a hug, at least a cheerful appreciation for tasty food put on the table
3.6.9 Crafts Expert - Master Craftsman
3.6.9.1 Would be advisable have a responsible for knowing many crafts, because many things, including clothing, must be produced by the group
3.6.9.2 The wood carving, making of baskets, etc
3.6.9.3 Leather crafts, for making some clothing, shoes, or moccasins at least?
3.6.9.4 Making ropes and vegetal lashes and ties from surrounding dogbane and similar plants



4. SHELTER

One of the most vital thing for human existence!
People along with their family member and their possesions should be protected
Very important also the construction of the retreat, utilities, area designation, technologies of construction that will be maintained and assured also after the SHTF

4.1 Building Issues
4.1.1 Legalities
4.1.2 Architecture Solutions
4.1.2.1 Constructing Solutions
4.1.2.1.1 Dome
4.1.2.1.2 Normal House
4.1.2.1.3 Group of many Houses
4.1.2.1.4 Condo
4.1.2.2 How the spaces are utilized
4.1.2.2.1 Provisions Storage
4.1.2.2.2 Places for rest
4.1.2.2.3 Bedrooms
4.1.2.2.4 Baths
4.1.2.2.5 Common activity places
4.1.2.2.6 Dedicated activity Places
4.1.2.2.6.1 Clasroom
4.1.2.2.6.2 Radio Equipment Room
4.1.2.2.6.3 Temporary Storage room
4.1.2.2.6.4 Cooking places
4.1.3 Materials to be used
4.1.3.1 Depending on the type of threats RZ should face
4.1.3.2 Ecological - Health
4.1.3.3 Smooth blending with the RZ environment
4.1.3.4 Very Durable
4.1.3.5 No health hazards (asbestos, lead, etc)
4.1.4 Installations
4.1.4.1 Antennas
4.1.4.1.1 Satellite Dish
4.1.4.1.2 Radio & TV antennas
4.1.4.1.3 HAM Radio special antennas
4.1.4.1.4 CB - large coverage antena
4.1.4.2 Electric nstallations
4.1.4.2.1 lighting
4.1.4.2.2 Pumping
4.1.4.2.3 Electric part for heaters, boilers
4.1.4.3 Heating
4.1.4.4 Air filtering and conditioning
4.1.4.4.1 special attention when Anti-Nuclear Bunkers
4.1.4.4.2 try use natural systems, flow of air, but take care put stoppers which could stop everything in case Bio, Nuclear or Chemical attack)
4.1.4.5 Water distribution
4.1.4.6 Wasted installation, toilets, etc
4.1.4.6.1 Better search solution more ecologic, such composting toilets, etc

4.2 Wastewater treatment
4.2.1 Biodegradation - Bacterial means
4.2.2 Filtration

4.3 Garbage disposal: as much as ecological possible-not much place dump garbage!
4.3.1 Procedure and Codes for Garbage consideration: Throw away NOTHING! Everything must be used, repaired as much as possible and used again! No consummatorism encouraged waste!
4.3.2 Handling residues from human wastes
4.3.3 Handling residues from cooking, food preparing and conserving
4.3.4 Handling residues from other activities
4.3.5 Handling Hygienic and Epidemic risk garbage - PROCEDURE's & sollutions
4.4 Annexes
4.4.1 Sheds
4.4.2 Barns
4.4.3 garages
4.4.4 Technical Rooms
4.4.5 Workshops
4.4.6 Storage Tanks
4.4.6.1 Liquid Fuels
4.4.6.2 Gas Fuels

4.5 Security of the Radiant zone from construction phase
4.5.1 Access in-buidling assured: strong doors, walls, windows
4.5.2 Plan location for Observation Post for Sentries and Sentinel - During Day Time
4.5.3 Plan location for Listening Post for sentriesand Sentinel - During Night Time
4.5.4 Plan location for eventual Spider Holes, moats, trenches, covers
4.5.5 Take seriously Camouflage precautions
4.5.5.1 Avoid unnatural configuration, or things can attract "unwanted" attention
4.5.5.1.1 Previous experience show that is not good attract attention by barbwire, high masonry castle fences, etc. Do not look like an army retreat or something. Because for sure, there are forces out there, anytime can defeat any security systems you may have in place. The idea is those forces not be attracted by that retreat, in the first place
4.5.5.1.2 The retreat should not look like a fort!
4.5.5.1.3 The retreat should be outside of visual sight from regular roads
4.5.5.1.4 First circle of defense should be natural without rise suspicions (dense wood, rocks, etc)
4.5.5.2 From Air
4.5.5.2.1 Avoid vehicle tyre marks, on different places than the normal roads or alleys
4.5.5.2.2 Try to use the existing day shadow, casted by neighbor bodies, such trees, building, etc
4.5.5.2.3 Avoid leaving imprinted tracks of vehicles in the grass, or on exposed soft soil, use the pathways already there or walk through minor creek beds, etc
4.5.5.2.4 Learn to use the camouflage in night and at crepuscule
4.5.5.3 From road
4.5.5.4 Always try to have some part or side of the retreat covered by a natural hard be defetead natural obstacle
4.5.6 Special consideration should granted to places where are passing cables, pipes, disposal facilities, fuel tanks, risk of fire
4.5.7 Special assessment of the surrounding threats, such wildfires, floods risk, heavy storms, mud or water sliding, falling rocks, dams cracking and breaking, vicinity of volcanoes, avoid costal area by at least of 200 Km, avoid earthquakes high risk area, extremely dangerous animals, avoid closest garrisons, penitentiary, hospitals (put many tenths of km between you and such things)

4.6 Water drainage system around Radiant Zone
4.6.1 Rain Water
4.6.2 Infiltration Water
4.6.3 very well design drainage system taking in consideration violent floods, rains, etc



5. WATER

We cannot live and function without water.
A proper influx of quality water should be provided and maintained even in the worst case scenarios.
These preparation should be thinking about and taken very good care.

5.1 Water Collecting
5.1.1 Springs, creeks
5.1.2 Wells
5.1.3 Rain water collectors
5.1.4 Transport with pipe or by recipients from surrounding area
5.1.5 Pools, basin, ponds (bathing, irrigation, for fire quelling

5.2 Water Storage
5.2.1 Medium Term considerations and amenities
5.2.2 Special consideration for Cooking & Drinking
5.2.3 Water for washing people, tools and clothes
5.2.4 Water for irrigations

5.3 Purification
5.3.1 Fixed facilities
5.3.1.1 Filtering - Separate the particles and some microorganisms (not safe drink)
5.3.1.2 Distilling - Is good to use for chemical poisoned waters (not for oils, toxic volatile agents; this stays good only for toxic or pollutants salts dissolved in water but not driven by water vapors into the condenser)
5.3.1.3 Biological safety (notchemical)
5.3.1.3.1 Chlorine, Bleach, Mineral Miracle Supplement
5.3.1.3.2 Iodine
5.3.1.3.3 Exposure of water to strong sun in transparent recipients - take care some plastics are emanating toxic substances into water, at higher pace when in sun
5.3.2 On the move, bushcraft purifying (case of Bug-Out, etc)
5.3.2.1 Ceramic water filters
5.3.2.2 Chlorine or Iodine disinfecting Pills



6. FOOD

One of the most important aspect of our life. Without food we will starve, then we will die. A horrible and agonizing death.
To prevent that, we should make provisions, must store, but we should think also in the distant perspective when our stock will finish and we cannot replenish from the SUPERMARKET!
Therefore we must ensue, that we have the means and skills to provide to our group, fresh food. As the food providing is sesonal we also must have the skills, to preserve gathered food on auspicious times
In scarcity condition, for which we are heading towards, it is of utmost importance assure the minimum amount of calories, minerals, micro and macro nutrients, vitamines and essential aminoacids, needed for a healthy and good functioning of the body!
Did I mention that someone cannot eat stored food for ever? That after a few months of eating only stored food, sores are developing in mouth and on the skin? That we need fresh herbs, vegetabless and fruits, from time to time to supplement the good caloric boost from stock food (grains, beans, cans, etc)? Thus we need the resources, skills and know-how to provide this fresh food to our community.

6.1 Cooking
6.1.1 Cooking Recipes
6.1.2 Methods of cooking
6.1.3 Oven
6.1.3.1 Dutch Oven
6.1.3.2 Bread Oven
6.1.3.3 Solar Oven
6.1.4 Stove
6.1.4.1 Liquid Fuel Stove
6.1.4.2 Wooden Stove
6.1.4.3 Gas
6.1.4.4 Camping Stove
6.1.5 Grills
6.1.5.1 Charcoals
6.1.5.2 Liquid Fuel
6.1.6 Utensils
6.1.6.1 Cutlery
6.1.6.2 Pots
6.1.6.3 Dish Cloths & Dish Towels, different cloths needed in kitchen or cheese cloth, etc
6.1.6.4 Kitchen Hand Tools (may be lack of electricity!)
6.1.6.4.1 Mincers
6.1.6.4.2 Grain Mill (for your tones of grains-that store better than flour)
6.1.6.4.3 Graters
6.1.6.4.4 Sieves

6.2 Storage
6.2.1 Mid term 1-2 years
6.2.1.1 Honey
6.2.1.2 Oil&Fats
6.2.1.3 Pasta
6.2.1.4 Spices & Prservatives
6.2.1.5 Flour
6.2.1.6 Sweets
6.2.1.7 Rice
6.2.1.8 Pickles
6.2.1.9 Dehydrated legumes and fruits
6.2.1.10 Gems, Marmalades
6.2.1.11 Powder Milk, Condensed Milk Cans, Butter cans
6.2.1.12 Bicuits, Danish Cookies
6.2.2 Long Term > 2 years
6.2.2.1 Meals Ready To Eat (MRE)
6.2.2.2 Cans
6.2.2.3 Beans, Grains

6.3 Preservation Methods
6.3.1 Drying
6.3.2 Salting
6.3.3 Smoking
6.3.4 Canning
6.3.5 Pickling
6.3.6 Marmalade, Jams

6.4 Gathering Fresh Food
6.4.1 Sprouting from beans and grains
6.4.2 Gathering Wild Edibles: fruits, roots, herbs, wild vegetables, berries, chestnuts, nuts, hazelnuts, ACCORN, sweet wood worms, locusts
6.4.3 Hunting, trapping
6.4.4 Fishing

6.5 Farming
6.5.1 Animal Breeding and raising
6.5.1.1 Cattle raising
6.5.1.2 Beekeeping Apiculture - Honey, Wax, Propolis, bee royal jelly, polen
6.5.1.3 Aquaculture
6.5.1.4 Birds, chickens & hens, geese, ducks
6.5.1.5 Small Mammals (rabbits, Guinea pigs)
6.5.2 Agriculture
6.5.2.1 Knowledge & Experience
6.5.2.2 Seeds
6.5.2.3 Land (prepared)
6.5.2.4 Greenhouse
6.5.2.5 Orchard
6.5.2.6 Aquaponics - Hydroponics
6.5.2.7 Tools
6.5.2.7.1 Hand tools: Gardening, plowing, digging
6.5.2.7.2 Tractor plus motortools
6.5.2.7.3 Animal plough, etc
6.5.2.8 Fertiliser
6.5.2.8.1 Natural composted
6.5.2.8.2 Chemical



7. SECURITY

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS, after food, water and shelter.
Even is a chore, permanent watch routines, keeping sentries alert to any movement, organising patrols and put in place a system of early alarming of anything might approach to our retreat, is of collosal importance.
As well as good weaponry skills and fighting tehniques, should be learned by al able members. That, along with the well handling of the COMMUNICATION means, in order to transmit intelligence data or wake up alarms.
Did I said we need procedures we must know what to do, even someone just wake in the middle of the night? Did I miss saying that this should become as a second nature, to know what to do if this and that happens?
Do you remeber the lessons from human biology about IMMUNITARY SYSTEM from school? That, of defending the whole body? And it never sleeps, that immunitary systems, because when will happen somethng wrong with it, our body get sick and we die.

7.1 Procedure for assuring the security
7.2 Daytime, Nocturnal Watch, 6 h, or 8h, constant watch
7.2.1 Very Important for the safety of the group
7.2.2 All able should partake watch and training and patrols
7.2.3 All must be instructed of using COMM devices (talkie-walkie, wire phones, light and visual signalizing) respecting radio silence when required
7.2.4 All must to know to use many alarming systems and panic alarms in case something happens outside retreat

7.3 Security of retreat
7.3.1 Sentries POSTS watching retreat and immediate surroundings
7.3.1.1 OBSERVATION POST (day)
7.3.1.2 LISTENING POST (night)
7.3.2 Perimeter assured security
7.3.2.1 Natural obstacles (woods, bushes, stones)
7.3.2.2 Fences
7.3.2.3 Moats
7.3.2.4 Trenches
7.3.2.5 Traps, etc
7.3.3 Alarming Systems
7.3.3.1 Systems be triggered by sentries to inform the inside group threat is coming (Beside ther usualy COMM use (takie-Walkie+Wire Phone)
7.3.3.1.1 All Observation/Listening and sentries post have panic alarm buttons wired inside retreat to small wall alarms; so if sudden attack they push these buttons
7.3.3.1.2 In case of redundancy there are air horn alarms in every post
7.3.3.2 Autonomous Electronic Systems
7.3.3.3 Mechanical Systems (for ex. wires pull flares, or sound bells)
7.3.3.4 Dogs, geese, etc

7.4 Security of Neighborhood
7.4.1 Patrolling
7.4.2 Joining with other retreats or neighbor community in stopping a common enemy

7.5 Weaponry
7.5.1 Combat Weapons
7.5.1.1 NON fire weapons
7.5.1.2 Fire Weapons
7.5.2 Utilitary Weapons
7.5.2.1 Hunting
7.5.2.2 Varmints and pest control
7.5.3 Everybody should be train in the weapon usage and advance in specific likened weapon



8. HEALTH

Supposed to assure an overal good health state among the group members.
What should be more emphasing that for the long run, the natural panaceea provided by nature should be used. Natural remedies, teas, etc should be preferred of those expiring medicines from the stock. Be informed that some medicines, just loosing the healing power over the body when expired, while other turn in toxic substances, making more harm than good.
The actual medicines have a few years expiry date! Some of them became dangerous after expiring date!
We highly need amongst us, people with medical, nursing and dentist skills. Some training course in paramedics or survival medicine would be a skill appreciated everywhere, so worth make the effort and do such a training!

8.1 Stock of Medicines
8.1.1 Medicines
8.1.1.1 Antibiotics
8.1.1.2 Antiviral
8.1.1.3 Anti-inflammatory
8.1.1.4 Diuretics
8.1.1.5 Dehydration salts
8.1.1.6 Antihistaminics
8.1.1.7 Fever relieving
8.1.1.8 Anti vomiting & vomiting inducers (poisonings)
8.1.1.9 Antidiarrhea
8.1.1.10 Antiparasitary
8.1.1.11 Anesthetics
8.1.1.12 Vitamins, Minerals, Micronutrients, Omega 3(fish oil)
8.1.1.13 Ginseng, etc
8.1.1.14 Anti infections - throat, lungs, urinary
8.1.1.15 Antimycotics, antifungic, antibacterial
8.1.1.16 Dental disinfectant (clove oil)
8.1.1.17 Dental anesthetics
8.1.1.18 Prescription drugs for different ailments (heart, diabetes, etc)
8.1.2 Chemical substances used in treatments
8.1.2.1 Insects repellents
8.1.2.2 Iodine
8.1.2.3 Alcohol
8.1.2.4 Tincture of Benzoin (for better sticking band-aids)
8.1.2.5 Perfusion liquids
8.1.3 Bandages, band-aids, Hemostatic gelatin sponge

8.2 Knowledgeable people
8.2.1 Doctors
8.2.2 Nurses
8.2.3 Dentists

8.3 Child-birthing

8.4 Instruments and tools
8.4.1 Syringes, needles, surgical blades, tweezers, clamp scissors, scissors, etc
8.4.2 For treatment of wounds
8.4.3 Surgery
8.4.4 Dental handling
8.4.5 Means of transport for injured members

8.5 Traditional Healing Consideration
8.5.1 Medical Plants
8.5.1.1 recognize them - Books, Illustrated cards
8.5.1.2 Know what and when to harvest the plants
8.5.1.3 How to process
8.5.1.4 How to Storage
8.5.1.5 How to administrate to the ill
8.5.1.6 Know how can plant yourself by stored seeds
8.5.2 Will be of utmost vital importation after the modern medicines, antibiotics, aspirins are gone, or expired
8.5.2.1 Know how make Home make penicillin
8.5.2.2 Know that the the tea of dried and minced willow bark tree (salix Alba) it containSALICIN, acting as aspirin
8.5.3 Different substances in house for treating illnesses (vinegar, Olive oil, Rosemarie etheric oils, etc)

8.6 Health exercises
8.6.1 Qi Gong
8.6.2 Tai Chi
8.6.3 Pilates
8.6.4 Yoga
8.6.5 Workout routines



9. COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS - COMM

One of the most important feature is that of connection with outside world, with keeping in touch between different subgroups or activities. Imagine yourself in a remote area, without any information about what's happened? After months and months, living with the same people, you may ask yourself what was happening? You long to know some piece of information.
So, here is coming into help this discipline helping us also to keep us in contact and to collect INTELLIGENCE data, which after dissemination and thoroughly analyze will be the base for , some tough decision to be made! By existing or not these intel data, our life is at stake.
The connection with the large world will be made by HAM radio, either CW Morse code, RTTY, serial data transmission with Fidonet, or voice with other Radiant zones.
Codification and cryptografic procedures should be put in place.
Radio silence procedures should be in place, when required by tactical situation.

9.1 COMM Procedures
9.1.1 Radio Silence Procedure
9.1.2 Codes and Cryptographic Message encoding/decoding
9.1.3 Intelligence gathering, analyzing and reporting Procedures
9.1.3.1 Direct Human Observation
9.1.3.1.1 Sky watching for flights, aircrafts, choppers hovering, other worrisome PHENOMENA
9.1.3.1.2 Observing movements
9.1.3.1.2.1 Normal, regular people (maybe they are in the know of something)
9.1.3.1.2.2 Military or para military troops
9.1.3.1.2.3 Vehicles, especially odd and unusual from the common
9.1.3.1.3 Any changing in environment without explanation
9.1.3.2 Radio Scanner - Duty, Private Non encrypted Channels
9.1.3.2.1 Police, Sheriff agents
9.1.3.2.2 Army agents
9.1.3.2.3 Governmental agencies
9.1.3.2.4 Hospital ambulances communication
9.1.3.2.5 Truckers bands
9.1.3.3 Public Broadcasting
9.1.3.4 Radio-amateurs Radio Communications - HAM Radio
9.1.3.5 From other neighboring people
9.1.3.5.1 Neighbor communities
9.1.3.5.2 From Patrolling trips
9.1.3.5.3 Rumors, etc

9.2 Inside Radiant Zone Communications
9.2.1 By loud voice
9.2.2 By signs visible with eyes
9.2.2.1 Singns - Daytime
9.2.2.2 Light codes - Night time
9.2.3 Wireline phone
9.2.3.1 Old 2 wire old phone between different building blocks and activity places
9.2.3.2 Between Sentries from Observation and Watching Post
9.2.4 Intercoms
9.2.4.1 Bads: simplex and contain electronics (EMP risk) better with Old 2 wire line phone
9.2.5 Two-way radio - Simplex (one speaks at a time, the other listens)
9.2.5.1 Different standards
9.2.5.1.1 Check Legalities for that area
9.2.5.1.2 Different tactics need different powers and coverages
9.2.5.1.2.1 Most of time desired range as max as possible
9.2.5.1.2.2 Sometime is best to reduce to minimum the range, just avoid be "listened"
9.2.5.1.3 CB Radio 27 MHz
9.2.5.1.3.1 FQ: 27 Mhz,
9.2.5.1.3.2 long range: tenths of KM
9.2.5.1.3.3 When Patrolling, between patrols and Radiant Zone
9.2.5.1.3.4 Between Radiant Zone and other citizens, neighbor communities
9.2.5.1.4 Talkie Walkie
9.2.5.1.4.1 PMR446 system -EUROPE; short distance max 0.5 W, range: 0.8 - 3 Km,
9.2.5.1.4.2 FRS & GMRS - Licensed in US (460 MHz), max 5W, range: up to 45 Km
9.2.5.1.4.3 MURS- Business COM, but OK personal (150 Mhz), Max 2W, range 0.8 -3 Km
9.2.5.2 Short Distances - Tactical and Utilitary
9.2.5.2.1 Observation Post - Buildings (redundancy)
9.2.5.2.2 Between different members scattered on the Radiant Zone area
9.2.5.2.3 During Patrolling
9.2.5.2.4 During Bug-Out Operations
9.2.5.2.5 During low level combat operations (when no need respect RADIO SILENCE)

9.3 Communications between Radiant Zone and outer world
9.3.1 Ham Radio - Radio Amateur radio - Using this information channel we can transmit
9.3.1.1 RTTY
9.3.1.2 Serial data transmissions to other Radio-Amateur
9.3.1.3 To PPP computee network such Fidonet
9.3.2 By letters carried by messengers, if the road were opened and some security is in place
9.3.3 Some can think use even messenger pigeons

9.4 Intelligence Data collection - INTEL
9.4.1 INTEL Information Gathering
9.4.2 INTEL Information Analysing & Reporting
9.4.2.1 The outcome is Information on which the Group will react to the threats



10. ENERGY

Nothing works without energy! Therefore this feature should be thoroughly given attention.
We should cover each and every scenario and energy should be assured.
The most important for long term will be wood, some fuel for light and electric energy.
Research in radiant energy should provide us with FREE ENERGY. The research internationaly is quelled down by TPTB, because affecting their demographic policies.

10.1 Thermal Energy
10.1.1 Liquid Fuels
10.1.1.1 Diesel
10.1.1.2 Gasoline + Preservers
10.1.1.3 Kerosene
10.1.1.4 Motor Oils
10.1.2 Solid Fuels
10.1.2.1 Wood
10.1.2.2 Coals
10.1.3 Gas Fuels
10.1.3.1 Biogas - recuperable from decomposing organic matter - way of recycle
10.1.3.2 Butane, propane gas

10.2 Electric Energy
10.2.1 Solar
10.2.2 Wind
10.2.3 Water fall
10.2.4 Batteries
10.2.5 Accumulators for storage

10.3 Tesla Radiant Energy or OVERUNITY ENERGY
10.3.1 Lutec Electricity Amplifier
10.3.2 Thomas Henry Moray rectifiers



11. SANITATION

Do not underestimate the cleaning, disinfection and pest control which may spread nasty disease.
Periodical cleaning, disinfection, limecoating will be in place. More importance should be given to the food storage area, food processing are and kitchen where food is prepared.
After floods or some nasty disease outbreaks, good and thoroughly sanitation must be put in place!
The rodents, pests, dead and rotting corpses around our retreat are source of disease and pandemics. We must keep a clean and safe environment around us.

11.1 Periodic cleaning
11.1.1 Buildings
11.1.2 Storage facilities
11.1.3 Clothes

11.2 Pest control
11.2.1 Ferals
11.2.2 Rodents
11.2.3 Termites
11.2.4 Roaches
11.2.5 Grain Pests

11.3 Disinfection
11.3.1 Periodically
11.3.2 After Floods
11.3.3 After epidemics

11.4 Lime coating (powerful and cheap disinfectant; also look nice and clean)



12.TRANSPORT

Transport will be used for:
People when moving far from retreat, patrolling, etc
When bringing to retreat different stuff, such cutted wood, harvested crops, etc

12.1 Vehicles
12.1.1 Fuel consideration
12.1.1.1 Short time: 1 year gasoline
12.1.1.2 2 years: gasoline with preservative
12.1.1.3 More than 3 years: Diesel
12.1.1.4 Methanol
12.1.2 Cars
12.1.3 Tractors
12.1.4 Carts
12.1.5 Wheelbarrows
12.1.6 Carriage
12.1.7 Traction/transport animals
12.1.7.1 Horses
12.1.7.2 Donkeys
12.1.7.3 Buffalos

12.2 Transport Recipients
12.2.1 Bushels
12.2.2 Buckets
12.2.3 Sacks
12.2.4 Drums

12.3 Accessories
12.3.1 Ropes
12.3.2 Ties
12.3.3 Textile cloths
12.3.4 Chains
12.3.5 Bungee elastic cords



13.TRAINING

Cannot highlight enough the importance of training!
Most important of all, the military training, because most of folks, never had this training
Why military? Because in the ****ty times ahead we expect, always some peoples will think that is easy to prey on other peoples which they prepared in advance. These people will think that is OK to take by force what they want. Our mission is to prove them they are wrong.
Not only that, but also different government folks or agencies might have some plans for us, without asking our approval,
How we can face them with a bunch of untrained people? You guess how; we train them!
As any of the skills, the weapons handling and military skills, must be practiced a lot. Even we discussing fire arms, or bow and arrows, or just a simply catapulte... Everything need knowledge and practice.

13.1 Military Procedures
13.1.1 Defense
13.1.2 Patrolling
13.1.3 Weapon Handling
13.1.4 Hand to hand combat

13.2 Health Exercises



14.LEARNING

The process of knowledge transfer of humans, besides the survival power per se, is assuring knowledge is passed from one member to another. What if the only doctor gets sick? Or what if the military instructor gets badly injured? We need to diseminate information of all sorts, between members and creating skill redundancy people!
This is very important for children the community !
Also, very important for rest of the members, to keep their minds wheels, always in motion!

14.1 Learning Methods

14.2 Classes of
14.2.1 Farm land living
14.2.2 cooking
14.2.3 food preserving
14.2.4 Wild edible recognize classes
14.2.5 Crafts
14.2.6 Foreign Languages
14.2.7 History
14.2.8 Socio-Politics
14.2.9 Science
14.2.10 Medicine
14.2.11 Know plants and herbs
14.2.12 Natural healing

14.3 Information Sources
14.3.1 Printings
14.3.2 Books
14.3.3 Computers in a networks
14.3.4 Digital data storage
14.3.4.1 CD, DVD
14.3.4.2 Memory sticks
14.3.4.3 Hardrives
14.3.4.4 MP3 players,iPODS
14.3.5 Audio bands, cassettes
14.3.6 Video cassettes



15.LEISURE TIME

Time specialy designated for strenghtening community bondage, sharing knowledges and experiences, a good way for morale boosting.
REMEMBER, in the coming times, we will need that morale booster, alot!

15.1 Reading
15.2 Singing
15.3 Playing Instruments
15.4 Video Games
15.5 Society Games
15.6 Music Listening
15.7 Story Telling
15.8 Theatre scenettes
15.9 Organizing Holidays for different Nationality in RZ



16.CRAFTS

Very important for maintaing our material base. Things get broken, coming apart. New things or accesories must be manufacturated. Can we buy them? Not very lightly!
So, we must have a heap of materials and tools, along with people with skills, to be able make that needed things for us.
Also the retreat has a lot of systems and mechanisms. Imagine how it would be without that working properly!

16.1 Tools, Tids & Bits
16.1.1 Materials & Parts
16.1.1.1 Screws, Nuts, bolts
16.1.1.2 Metal sheets, plates
16.1.1.3 Pipes
16.1.1.4 Wires, cable
16.1.1.5 Parts & SUbparts for different sub-systems, vehicles and apparatus

16.1.2 Hand-tools
16.1.2.1 Covering all crafts we have people specialized on
16.1.2.2 Many Tool kits, easy handling and transporting where is need
16.1.3 Power tools
16.1.3.1 Power Drills, electric saws, etc

16.2 Skills person in
16.2.1 Carpentry
16.2.2 Construction
16.2.3 Metalwork
16.2.4 Mechanics
16.2.5 Gunsmithing
16.2.6 General Handyman
16.2.7 Welding
16.2.8 Plumbing
16.2.9 Electronics & Electricity
16.2.10 IT guy
16.2.11 Cloth making: looming, Sewing, Crochetting, Knitting

16.3 Craft are producing
16.3.1 Leather articles
16.3.2 Tools & Utensils
16.3.3 Clothes, textiles
16.3.4 Accessories: Bags, Rucsacks

16.4 Reparations
16.4.1 Different things
16.4.2 Different systems



17.ABANDON RETREAT

In difficult times, when the retreat is attacked by supperior forces, which will ooust the resistence force, the community leader along with the military expert should take the painful decision to leave the retreat.
Far in advance, based on differnt INTEL of perils approaching, from INTEL Officer, the group should make provisions caches along the way to bug out places, such caves, forrest, etc.
Very important:
1. Intel we have, must be correctly assessed
2. The military force correct estimation
3. The preparation be made in time
Remember, if need leave the retreat in middle of the night, just with some backsacks, the probability of survival the group, in the following days will be very low, close to nil!
The bug-out could be decided for threats not necesarilly military, such heavy winds, or floods or meteorits shower, when a cave or a natural deep underground shelter will offer better chance of survival. But those places, should be secured well in advance. Caches with food, water, materials and tools shoud be already prepared on the way to the final retreat.

17.1 Why to bug out from retreat? Aren't we safe here?
17.1.1 Cases when remaining in retreat is endangering the life

17.2 Major dangers
17.2.1 Huge attack on the retreat; assessment of the military command say we can't defeat
17.2.2 Meteorites shower and retreat not resistant at
17.2.3 Devastating fires in the nearby woods with possibility of totally devastation RZ
17.2.4 Huge attack EMP or attack type Blue Beam Project, need go caves
17.2.5 Different threats ousting the limited defending capacity of the group

17.3 Where
17.3.1 Caves
17.3.2 Hidden places in woods
17.3.3 Wholes, labyrinths in the rock, ground, etc

17.4 Abandon Procedures
17.4.1 Already need be in place
17.4.2 How to abandon retreat, order, what take what leave

17.5 Caches
17.5.1 Water
17.5.2 Food
17.5.3 Materials and equipment (sleeping bags, warm clothes, flashlights, water filters)
17.5.4 Importance of caches: places furnished with food, materials, weapon in advance in hidden places just in case scenarios
17.5.5 How to hide the caches, systems of retrieve after the hidden caches
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What is your opinion, if someone is observing all of these issues will be in the safe side, or not?
What is missing?
What is redundant?

All the best!
Artvision

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by artvision

Here is the suggested outline for the Radiant Zone Guide...

Wow!!

[mudra]

Thank you Artvision .
Lots to work on there.
This will take some time.

I am off now to the UK for a week.

Keep the thread burning friends.
Do well.

loving kindness
mudra

[artvision]

Originally Posted by mudra

Thank you Artvision .
Lots to work on there.
This will take some time.

I am off now to the UK for a week.

Keep the thread burning friends.
Do well.

loving kindness
mudra

Bye, Mudra, have a nice trip! All the best!

[BROOK]

TtC...no more pm's please..I am not going to open it. Mudra said you would present us your vision, and answer any questions I have.
Respectfully Ttc, and giving you the benefit of the doubt..I don't want any more PM's from you...it's either here for all to see, or your silence will be your answer.

[TtC]

Yes, but Mudra does not speak for me, only I do. I suggest you open it. It is the last one.

[BROOK]

I cannot open it...I deleted it. I don't want anymore pm's I just want some answers...if you choose not to state your vision for all here to see..that is your choice

I will not attack you, I will listen with open ears.

[TtC]

I am posting this as a courtesy:

Hello Brook,

It seems I have caused some confusion.

Firstly, no matter what, you cannot control what others think or do. That is what I meant by quoting Crowley when he said “do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.” The only thing I can do is control myself. Whatever anyone else does, you have no control over it.

As for the reference about cataclysm and the NWO, I find that, yes, there is only a stream of well-being that flows. I do not wish for such things to happen and will not attract such things to myself, but others may. I cannot help that. My intentions for communities is to move away from fear. I want them to be an alternative to current society where we can learn and grow with like minded people in order to move our evolution forward. I know you want to stay in the city or what have you, and I do not object to this. I have the resources to create such a community for those who wish to go there and I am the option is available to them.

The property is no where near the Bakken Formation region, it's actually in west Montana away from that. I used to work in the oil field in Alberta and there is no reason why I would go back to the same situation. I am trying to get away from the use of oil, but it is good for the production of plastics and lubricants. Corn is being tested for the same thing as I recall.

This is a very large project. I have, indeed, been working on this since I was young. Just something I was compelled to do and I have written nearly ten thousand pages and five million words on how the society will function including logistics for continuance. As you may have seen, Artvision has a good start and it is more complicated than most think.

I know you have had some rough times, as have many others, but I feel no reason why we cannot work things out. If you would like the Abraham material, you are more than welcome to it.

I will be reiterating my proposal with some clarity, later, for people to look at.

Thank you,

TtC

Mind you, this is not up for debate.

[BROOK]

Thank you for the offer of the Abraham - Hicks material...however I have most of it already. Been acquanted with the materian for quite some time now. From the very first book to the present, and many Cd's as well...very good material..and highly recommended

By "mind you this is not up for debate"..does that mean you are unwilling to discuss some of the pressing questions that many here have...and instead of confrontation, Just simple question and answer time about some of the areas of concern?

[TtC]

Originally Posted by BROOK

By "mind you this is not up for debate"..does that mean you are unwilling to discuss some of the pressing questions that many here have...and instead of confrontation, Just simple question and answer time about some of the areas of concern?

I meant the debate as the comments should be between you and me.

I did switch on the save out-going messages though in case something like this did happen.

I will answer areas of concern and whatnot, but I will not engage in arguing. If I stop answering a certain inquirer then it would be for this reason.

[BROOK]

As I stated, Ttc..I will not attack you and I will listen with open ears, and mind...all you have to to do is state your position on the concerns

Be honest with me now Ttc..you have a confrontational way of screening. As several have expressed....this might be part of the biggest problem with the realization of your project.

Do you at least agree, that that might be why so many here might have been rubbed the wrong way in the beginning? I know it was a huge red flag with me.

It could be the largest part of the reason so many here are suspect, and question your motives....

I know you are young, and maybe dealing with the public is not your thing...I myself deal with the public on a daily basis...it is my job to sell myself first...and This is not intended as criticism...and it is not in any way an attack on you...many people do not have that skill...it took me a while to learn it.

I used to be a performer while I was in college...and getting on a stage was the hardest thing I ever had to do...however I overcame the fear, and finally learned to cope.... then the skill grew in leaps and bounds...sort of like Abraham-hicks style...the law of attraction set in and took off.

But this is not about me ...back to the whys and what evers....

In the screening process..what were you looking for in an individual?

[Anchor]

To all who it may concern,

I like debate and am for it. What I am not for is the increasing levels of innuendo, character assault and blatant aggression that has been witnessed recently on this forum.

I am simply asking you - pleading with you actually - to stop doing it.

A..

[Wormhole]

Ttc,
Hi there. I request that you openly publish the preamble. Thank you.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

ps. When ever you can.