Go Back   Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE) > Project Avalon Forum > What’s Going Down > What Does It Mean ?

Notices

What Does It Mean ? What does this all mean for the Ground Crew ?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-08-2009, 01:25 AM   #1
Humble Janitor
Avalon Senior Member
 
Humble Janitor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,201
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by scanner View Post
Legal Government voted in by the MAJORITY not MINORTIY as is the case here UK anyway, ppl just turn off when it comes to politics and the lies told by politicians no one believes them anymore , feathering there own nests all the time lots of them outed recently caught with there sticky fingers in the till . Its not Goverment thats the problem its the ppl ie politicians (not all of them )
Majority rule doesn't work when it comes to deciding whether certain people/groups have rights or not.

It's certainly not the way to go.
Humble Janitor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 02:06 AM   #2
NewParadigmGuy
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 485
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

"Beyond the family, no organization is necessary."

Handbook for the New Paradigm, Volume 1, Introduction section 2
NewParadigmGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 03:21 AM   #3
orthodoxymoron
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lunar Base II
Posts: 3,093
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

In a sense...Jesus abolished organized religion...but he got run over and ignored. Religion and government are two different methods of controlling people. Sometimes the two methods are combined into one. This is called a Theocracy. A maximalist centralized secular government is called a Dictatorship. A minimalist decentralized secular government could be called a Weocracy. The U.S. Constitution provides for a Weocracy. To me...this is the best hope for the human race...at this point in time. At a later date...the human race might grow up enough to not require any ***ocracy. The constitutional responsible freedom approach may groom us for that ultimate eventuality. Then we would simply operate under responsible freedom...without any constitution. The Constitution might be considered to be...Training Wheels.
But why do we keep trying to reinvent the wheel...and keep repeating the same mistakes...over and over and over again?

Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 05-08-2009 at 06:22 PM.
orthodoxymoron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 07:51 AM   #4
Neo
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 97
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewParadigmGuy View Post
"Beyond the family, no organization is necessary."

Handbook for the New Paradigm, Volume 1, Introduction section 2

Funny how truth is often the simplest answer, great quote.


I dont need a government to tell me what do or when to do it.
I dont need a government to feed me, cloth me or shelter me. (they dont anyway)
I dont need the goverment to protect me (they dont anyway)

So what did I need them for again?

I am constantly amazed at people who cant see beyond our current system.
The very reason our system is breaking is cos it JUST DONT WORK!
Most of the people here on this forum are helping break it, it needs to be broken.

Where is the logic of one man leading another? Isnt that the blind leading the blind? Giving power to another to control your life is like saying "I'm too stupid to run my own life, please run it for me".

When we do eventually get rid of these corrupt powermongers I hope that if anyone ever stands up to claim leadership or rulership again they be ignored by everyone. One man cant rule or lead if no one follows.

Oh but what about everyone else I hear you say. How do we prevent everyone else from running rampant?
After all the fear, after all the anarchy, after all the fighting and killing people will ultimately come to one simple realization WE DONT NEED TO! Things actually work better when we co-operate. "hey maybe instead of killing my neighbour maybe I could ask for his help".

Like I said, anything thats true is also simple.
We dont need faith in humanity for this to happen just time for us all to understand it.
Neo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2009, 09:52 AM   #5
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo View Post

...Things actually work better when we co-operate...
The spirit of cooperation is a powerful thing. I love to see it in action...
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 07:06 PM   #6
scanner
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sea level England ,I must move
Posts: 195
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Humble Janitor View Post
Majority rule doesn't work when it comes to deciding whether certain people/groups have rights or not.

It's certainly not the way to go.
So you saying a dictatership is ok ?
scanner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 08:39 PM   #7
Humble Janitor
Avalon Senior Member
 
Humble Janitor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,201
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by scanner View Post
So you saying a dictatership is ok ?
Go back and re-read what I wrote.

Majority rule doesn't work when it comes to deciding the rights of others.

In other words, you and I have no right to tell someone that they can't get married or they can't buy weed legally or they can't do what they want with their property.
Humble Janitor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 08:43 PM   #8
Seashore
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,564
Default Re: Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Humble Janitor View Post

Majority rule doesn't work when it comes to deciding whether certain people/groups have rights or not.

It's certainly not the way to go.
Quote:
Originally Posted by scanner View Post

So you saying a dictatership is ok ?

I have read that some people call a democracy "mob rule," and contrast it with a republic, which is considered representative democracy with a constitution to ensure human rights. Maybe that applies here.
Seashore is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Project Avalon