Would Humanity Be Better Off If We Just Abolish Government?

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

i'd love to watch, but i can't. what's in the video?

It starts with an few shots of city restraunts, KFC, McDs and the likes. Its in some busy Asian city. 2 girls go into a restraunt, order chicken, eat what they like from it, laugh and have a joke then leave.

Then a man comes on a bike after the restraunt customers are gone with a large plastic bin. He sifts through the remains of all the left over, chewed up meals trying to salvage anything still edibble.

He takes the scraps to a rural area outside the city it looks like and puts the bin down. A group of hungry kids then start tearing into the scraps. Very sad. It the unseen ... let me change that - its the un-akoweledged part of life.

The fact that there are people who do not really know what they have, and do not really know how the others live.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

It starts with an few shots of city restraunts, KFC, McDs and the likes. Its in some busy Asian city. 2 girls go into a restraunt, order chicken, eat what they like from it, laugh and have a joke then leave.

Then a man comes on a bike after the restraunt customers are gone with a large plastic bin. He sifts through the remains of all the left over, chewed up meals trying to salvage anything still edibble.

He takes the scraps to a rural area outside the city it looks like and puts the bin down. A group of hungry kids then start tearing into the scraps. Very sad. It the unseen ... let me change that - its the un-akoweledged part of life.

The fact that there are people who do not really know what they have, and do not really know how the others live.

thanks iain and zeddo. i'm glad i can't see it. i'd be in tears. it's painful to think of some with sooooooo much and so many with nothing. we are so wealthy, even the poorest of us (i mean us, you and i. if we have a computer,or even access to one, we're probably know that we can eat today and tomorrow.)

but, we are still left with the question of what to do with government. considering that any political system, or lack thereof, is a failure due to inherent human lust for power and wealth, and that any government, throughout history is, or will become, corrupt and mindless of the needs of the masses, then i say abolish government.
we can't be any worse off without it than we are with it.

[Carol]

A world of zen monks would be quite peaceful.

[oldpaganfreak]

Originally Posted by Carol

A world of zen monks would be quite peaceful.

one handed clapping is very quiet!

[lemon_sky88]

I believe this may be not to far off. If our govt crumbels we will be left with no structure other than mans own intuition. I believe at that time there will be groupings or tribes. Good and Bad the world will be a very tuff place to comute and find out whose on whose side and wars will be faught, people will be killed. (unless an outside source acts to help us shift the paradime) Our conciousness knows at the end of the day what is good and bad. Its imbeaded deep within us is my belief. there will be good tribes and bad tribes. As long as our conciousness remains the same. not to fly to far off subject, i think the goverment or structure will always exist for humans, even if the govt as we know it is not there. It is our evolutionary instinct to elect leaders and just as important followers who have expertise in there own areas. Its our camoflaughe, our evolutionary strength to see these things in ourselves and others. it our thirst for knowledge and sucess. I believe having leaders or government is not bad. Its a serious of bad ideas and a thirst for power (evil) which is hurting a good thing, our governments of the world. We need to get back to basics. Fundamentals have been lost. Love one anouther, treat me how you wish to be treated, take care of this planet, take care of everyone, is not a Hippie idea, its an instinctual calling many refuse to listin too, they sacrafice this for one thing, Power. We need a change in paradime before anything gets beter. No govt being a good thing, this is only good after a paradime shift is my opinion. Because we would then not need them due to our rebirth or new mentalities. We need to focus on fundamentals and make shur we make an effort every day to beter our selves and carry the tourch. We can shift our own perodime in this manor. In turn we will beter humanity which will fix all. its a magical basket you can set all problems aside in and focus on urself, because urself is everybody else, so then and only then we can start concentrating on anything else, such as how to govern ourselves or what our goals should be. none of this is good if we ourselves are evil. Shed light and day shall be prevalent, then all will see. Help me carry this tourch brothers and sisters. we are all one is lifes greatest secrete, in my opinion. I hurt you it hurts me. vise versal. with love for all.

[Northern Boy]

ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS we are in the position we face today is because of governments they have stolen our individual sovereignty and handed it over to the very institutions that are now being handed unlimited billions. After the last depression governments turned your grandfathers hard labour and all of his future descendants earnings to the F*ckin Fed . THEY THEN CREATED THE STRAWMAN AND TOLD YOU IT WAS YOU . And now they have all these stupid laws and statutes that you think you must obey. All based on UCC law when in fact they apply to your strawman . And our governments know this We are all f*-cked when we apply , Register ,for things because in doing so we are giving our personal sovereignty away we are in fact saying "I`m not capable of doing this myself would you do it for me " . What we really should be doing is telling government that I`m Old enough and More than capable of doing this with out their assistance and I no longer require (insert Government Here) to hold my hand because the only reason for them is to control us tell us what we can and can not do . Are we not capable of this . Just look at governments they no longer represent the people when in fact they take their money and orders from the corporations and lobby groups. The only time they have any time for the common citizen is when they want your vote then they care .and after the election its back to the same old sh*t. There are only 3 things that we need law enforcement for. The 2 major ones being

1)did we cause someone to be harmed
2) did we use mischief in our contracts

As an example you are arrested for smoking weed
who was harmed by this act ? NO ONE
so why then is it a crime .

Because we gave the government the right to control us if we in mass took that control back we would no longer be required to pay tax in any form
Example
we are paying property tax to enjoy our own property and just so you know any one that has bought property does not own that property if you registered it you gave that ownership away and merely hold the equity portion of it. Your State, provincial, or local government can at any time come and take it as long as they pay you fair market value for it .

It costs a lot of money to hold the governments hand is it really worth it? The good thing is there is a way out but it requires guts and knowledge . Ask any lawyer about his and most will avoid it . Just recently someone posted a video Kymatica it is one small part in this film but it is to the point OUR governments sold us down the river of slavery long ago so they do nothing for us any longer when will we wake up

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS we are in the position we face today is because of governments...

Yeah, I would like it if we could just start all over again, from scratch!