Questions for THEWATCHER

[Jacqui D]

Wow i have been away for 2 days and i have missed all this!!
There are some interesting thoughts here i myself have had some doubts into Mr Kings speculations, just a nagging feeling i have, although i have continued to post and ask questions prior to this discussion.
No disrespect Barry but i feel there are many on this forum who are not what they seem.
I am one of those that received your dvds and i hope my name is not going on some list somewhere but saying that what's private when you post on these sites anyway.
I came to Avalon because i found Camelot to be so revealing with it's interviews and i felt for once i had found an outlet to have my say on certain experiences i have had through my life.
If those experiences have been used in anyway then i have myself to blame for trusting certain people, that's the choice i made be it good or bad.
The members here will either take your word or not Barry i will continue to read but i will not be posting anymore.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Wow i have been away for 2 days and i have missed all this!!
There are some interesting thoughts here i myself have had some doubts into Mr Kings speculations, just a nagging feeling i have, although i have continued to post and ask questions prior to this discussion.
No disrespect Barry but i feel there are many on this forum who are not what they seem.
I am one of those that received your dvds and i hope my name is not going on some list somewhere but saying that what's private when you post on these sites anyway.
I came to Avalon because i found Camelot to be so revealing with it's interviews and i felt for once i had found an outlet to have my say on certain experiences i have had through my life.
If those experiences have been used in anyway then i have myself to blame for trusting certain people, that's the choice i made be it good or bad.
The members here will either take your word or not Barry i will continue to read but i will not be posting anymore.

OMG...you all need to take a break and read my thread about the goals of Avalon....here it is
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=12835

Then you need to take a breather...and listen to this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvIDmZ8_mio

Where is the love y'all

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Wow i have been away for 2 days and i have missed all this!!
There are some interesting thoughts here i myself have had some doubts into Mr Kings speculations, just a nagging feeling i have, although i have continued to post and ask questions prior to this discussion.
No disrespect Barry but i feel there are many on this forum who are not what they seem.
I am one of those that received your dvds and i hope my name is not going on some list somewhere but saying that what's private when you post on these sites anyway.
I came to Avalon because i found Camelot to be so revealing with it's interviews and i felt for once i had found an outlet to have my say on certain experiences i have had through my life.
If those experiences have been used in anyway then i have myself to blame for trusting certain people, that's the choice i made be it good or bad.
The members here will either take your word or not Barry i will continue to read but i will not be posting anymore.

Thanks for nothing Jacqui, swayed by certain people here. You received gratis data, your emails are perfectly confidential, Oh well.

THE WATCHER

[blastawaycas]

Thats you red tagged jaqui d !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[Egg]

You claim to be ex-military. You state you are current psyops operative. You cannot prove either or are unwilling to provide even a single shred of any evidence for any of your 'covert' activities.

Then your not military at all, you are a civilian security guard, then a security enforcement officer... no wait, then your involved with the military... but wait, your still a civvie thats protected by the Defence Intelligence world.

Yet you cannot provide a shred of evidence you were ever in the Military or any specialist field at all. Not a single scrap of evidence at all - not even a peep at your little red book, not even a cadre course certificate even.

Your history is a tangled mystery, or is it lies? or is it part of the continued involvement within the psyops world? what is it Mr King? fantasy? fiction? Lies? psyops meddling? Please provide us with the answer.

Oh and before you get all panty wadded, libel and slander do not apply to questions being asked, only stated facts.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Egg

You claim to be ex-military. You state you are current psyops operative. You cannot prove either or are unwilling to provide even a single shred of any evidence for any of your 'covert' activities.

Then your not military at all, you are a civilian security guard, then a security enforcement officer... no wait, then your involved with the military... but wait, your still a civvie thats protected by the Defence Intelligence world.

Yet you cannot provide a shred of evidence you were ever in the Military or any specialist field at all. Not a single scrap of evidence at all - not even a peep at your little red book, not even a cadre course certificate even.

Your history is a tangled mystery, or is it lies? or is it part of the continued involvement within the psyops world? what is it Mr King? fantasy? fiction? Lies? psyops meddling? Please provide us with the answer.

Oh and before you get all panty wadded, libel and slander do not apply to questions being asked, only stated facts.

LOL LOL LOL I'll save the pant pissing to you Egg LOL LOL LOL

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

My little gathering of naughty boys? well, lets see. Special Forces, Civilian Intelligence companies, Police civilian workers, detention Officers... all have one thing in common.

They are not shy with PROOF.

[Egg]

BUT NO, he has continued to badger, annoy and **** people off with his constant digging.

Glad to see its getting to you. Theres alot more to come believe me - I haven't even started - this is just a warm up to have a little look at your very tangled and very murky past - thing is, you seem to have been every where and done everything, but can prove nothing.

Military, Psyops, Security enforcement officer in an UBER elite underground base..... but not a single payslip. not a single cadre certificate. Not a single photograph from your military days.

Litle red book

All former military people have one - you may have lost yours, do you need me to get you the address in Glasgow where you can email to and get a copied data sheet?

[Egg]

Care to correct this little time line Mr King? Please, do feel free to correct it as to where and when you were in the military as you claim to have been.

Biography

A keen active interest in Astronomy from the age of 10, with own telescope gave him the interests in space, other worlds, and possible other life forms elsewhere in the vast universe. Always an interest in anything strange, anything classed as paranormal.

His interest in Ufo's was sparked by a double page spread in the Daily Mirror newspaper in 1965 about the strange goings on in the small Wiltshire town of Warminster. From there he searched for books and mags on the subject and his interest bloomed and became stronger. At age 14 in 1966, he began to be actively involved in Ufo research and investigations. In 1968 he joined the BUFORA research organisation in the UK and by 1974 was an area investigator for them covering the South-East of the UK.

In May of that year he witnessed, along with others, a very close range structured craft which left physical traces, occupants were seen, full reports including photographs were passed to BUFORA, the MoD and CUFOS in USA. The case is listed with CUFOS and found its way in the Ted Bloecher research catalog "Physical trace cases" (1976). The 1970s were hectic years for him, in early 1977 he became a member of the newly formed elite UFOIN, an organisation set up and backed by FSR with Jenny Randles. UFOIN consisted of the best of the UK investigators.

Barry King, along with Andy Collins were to cover the South-East of UK along with other well known researchers Timothy Good and Omar Fowler. 1977 was a flap year in the UK and both King and Collins were kept busy 24/7 with reports, mostly of a high calibre, which found their way into the pages of FSR magazine. These included the Aveley Abduction case, Britain's first fully documented multiple abduction case, a full years investigation was undertaken by these two investigators.


Barry King worked with fellow investigators and close friends, Andy Collins and Graham Phillips on the magazine "Strange Phenomena" based in Wolverhampton during 1979. This magazine was the first publication to fully document the investigation into an abduction case from Somerset in 1973 which involved rape by the ufo occupants, MIBs, and a host of other strange events.
Between 1977 and 1980 the reader will find numerous high quality case reports in FSR penned by King and Collins.
Barry M King can be sourced in over 40 books on the subject of Ufo's published Globally, these include many by Ufologist Jenny Randles, including the very first book covering cases he investigated, 1979 book "Ufo's a British Viewpoint" by Jenny Randles and Peter Warrington.

http://wikibin.org/articles/barry-m.-king.html

Problem I can see is that in this time line as it stands, you had no time at all to have joined the Army as you claim to have been in, and to make it worse, you refuse to provide any proof at all of your service. Can you provide proof Mr King?

If I were in the Military still, and somehow you managed to wander into my sights, I guess I might just be tempted to squeeze the trigger LOL

Is that above quote the truth Mr King? or psyops spin? or a tissue of lies? please do provide me with a better insight so I can make up my mind.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Egg

My little gathering of naughty boys? well, lets see. Special Forces, Civilian Intelligence companies, Police civilian workers, detention Officers... all have one thing in common.

They are not shy with PROOF.

All very good, but are any of them, or were any of them, involved with OPI?, were any involved in deep black programs not acknowledged and with no paper trails? you know, those often hinted at but never really knowing if they existed teams? Of course all would be willing to come forward with their little bits of paper. They are/were in the open arena, the white world you could say. So none would have certain restrictions on them. Getting really fed up with this round and around. Lets out of sheer boredom with you and your nit picking, come up with a scenario, a hypothetical scenario. Lets say that around the early 1970's it was decided to piece together a team of people that could integrate and eventually steer opinion towards required areas. These people would work within many areas including the required research field in question. Lets say, in this scenario, that the objective was to stall any disclosure whilst parties with direct interest fostered agreements with OPI. At all costs they had to keep this out of the media, out of the publics eye, and out of researchers reach and knowledge. Lets say that after a number of events of a certain nature, elements within that group of individuals began to realise this was wrong and decided to do something about it. factions within factions on the outside looking as if working together but in reality, internal war was raging. Lets say, in this hypothetical scenario that in later years as other OPI became involved this internal struggle has broadened and the original individuals are scattered globally. Each side trying to educate the public, to bring to the table data that they wish the public to know. each being different of course. One side trying to educate the public of the deeds of the less scrupulous, whilst the less scrupulous darken the issues and continue the cover up and non disclosure agenda.

Could of course go on but as I said, its hypothetical

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Egg, I do not answer to you or the likes of you, who the hell do you think you are? You know nothing outside of your rigid little box and I suspect that certain data if released would sail right over your head. You are turning this into a personal fight and going way beyond civil questioning. I think you are going too far my lad

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Egg, I do not answer to you or the likes of you, who the hell do you think you are? You know nothing outside of your rigid little box and I suspect that certain data if released would sail right over your head. You are turning this into a personal fight and going way beyond civil questioning. I think you are going too far my lad

THE WATCHER

My own little box encompasses some pretty remarkable post cards from the edge Mr King - This isn't a personal fight though, far from it.

Think of it as shining a little light into the murky past of Mr King. Thats allowed, as you being a former military and psyops man should know, always question and vet your sources.

Your getting vetted is all.

[Kari Lynn]

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[Egg]

Originally Posted by Kari Lynn

Egg, you know here in the good old US of A, you're innocent until proven guilty.

And the accused produces evidence to back this up.

So what proof do you have that he's lying?

Never said he was lying - I said there was a severe obscuration of any pertinent relevant truths that are solid and concrete that can be backed up by solid reliable evidence.

I see nothing that directly proves his lies, only your own personal opinions and disbeliefs.

Mr King is sat in the middle of a tangled history that only he alone knows what is true and what is not. Where did he have time to do his military training? where did he have time to do all of this fantastical stuff that led him to be hand picked by the NSA no less to be part of this project? just some of the strange questions I would like answers to. I bet other people would too.

As I've said, I've done my research.

Then what military unit was Mr King in and what psyops unit?

If you have contacts in places you say you have. Getting the same information about "Mr. King" that I gathered, should be no problem for you.
Perhaps as you can't get these proofs yourself, you are the one lying?

As Mr King is still alive, he alone is the sole person who can contact glasgow and get his print out from his military records. HOWEVER if he came forward with his name, rank and military number and gave me permission, then I could run it and verify it with one single phone call. However, to do so behind his back as a still living person means I would have to breach data protection laws, as would my people.

Nice try though.

These public documents you claim are public, and demanding, truly are public. Go look it up yourself!

That makes no sense at all. Public documents I claim are public? demanding? his little red book? military records? you mean those? see above.

Mr King has offered zero proof of any employment in any agency, any military unit, in fact, Mr King has offered us nothing at all. Not a single iota of proof.

So to sum it up in short - a self confessed psyops operative with an IQ of 162 and paranormal abilities has written a fantastical claim on the internet and on video, but offers no proof what so ever, refuses to co-operate with people who ask to see even the smallest bit of circumstantial evidence of his past, and then by a miracle new people with further fantastical claims leap in to defend him.

To cap it all, we are further led to believe that when Mr King is unwell, there are further peoples who take over his posts and write up things for him in his name - on this very site no less! I mean, come on, how many 'The Watchers' are there? but at least it proves that others bar Mr King has access to his private PM messages box.

Sure as heck glad I didn't PM him before I read his thread. Oh and here is one thing for Mr King the remote viewer with altered DNA to ponder.

James Randi is offering up a million dollars for proof of paranormal abilities, and remote viewing sure as hell is paranormal in my book - here, Mr King can earn a million dollars by remote viewing for Mr Randi - I suggest he gets rich quick and contacts him.

jref@randi.org
www.randi.org

Million dollars Mr King, and you would be world famous to boot.

[Zeddo]

To The Watcher

Lets see, how do I do this.....with egg on my face for being a retard I guess.

I apologise for attacking you, whether justified (in my own mind) or not, it was not warranted. You have indeed shared a lot and you do have a lot of people who look forward to reading what you have to say.

My attack is actually no better than those of the thought police. It is not my place to do this. You have a message, and you have a forum in which to share it, as do we all.

Here's hoping that we all wake up in unison and realise that we actually are all on the same side.

LL&P (in sincerity, not that it was ever meant to be otherwise)

Z

[Egg]

Indeed Zeddo Mr King has shared alot - Offers not a single drop of evidence wether concrete or circumstantial to back such fantastical claims up mind you, but he has written alot of words.

Pity it took till page 'God knows what' for him to reveal he is a psyops operative.

[Egg]

So you joined this group as an uber elite secuirty guard soldier psyops operative who on week days investigated UFOs.

Doesn't wash with me. The time line doesn't fit and the proof of military service is non-existant. I hold proof of my witnesses military credentials, as well as little things like P45s.

Yes Mr King, the armed forces do issue payslips. They have to by law for tax reasons with inland revenue.

The only way a military person slips off that net is if they retire from the services, go off and do their jobs, and rejoin the military.

They still have proof of their former and current military status.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by blastawaycas

Thats you red tagged jaqui d !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Fuelling the paranoid fire

THE WATCHER