Sick British soldiers mania!

[Egg]

A word to the wise. Until you have been to war, faced death deastruction and injury on a daily basis, seen your best friends blown to pieces and scream for their mothers when ablaze or with shredded limbs, do not judge a man.

It was bad, yes. It was wrong, yes. It was done in an environment where he may not be alive in two day, let alone know for ceratin he will be alive in two hours.

Combat, and its aftermath is viscious - decompressing afterwards takes months, and sadly british troops don't have that long before they need to return to war.

Add an ungrateful country to their stresses, and an ungrateful government, and its a wonder they are so well behaved and only a few incidents happen.

[Jacqui D]

Thanks everyone for your input.
In someways i agree with Egg, yes these guys have been through things that many will never see or have had to deal with, okay we can excuse them for that.
But this was down right sadistic, it goes on i'm afraid and much worse.
I have always said and will continue to say that these men (and women) although for the life of me i can never understand a women someone of my own gender would wish to join the forces and face combat fighting men what goes through their mind when they decided to join up! Anyway that's beside the point, also some of these women have kids at home! where does that come into their agenda well second obviously to the life they love to live.

But getting back to what i was going to say, these people clearly have no feelings, thought of killing another must bring so much guilt within oneself, how do they cope with that!
Unless as i said there is no feelings.

A lot of the youngsters are giving false hopes of a wonderful life in the army they are even give lectures at schools this has been going on for years, this being the Uk don't know if other countries go on a recruiting scheme at schools.
I think this gives the youngsters a vision that is so unreal when they actually get out to these war torn places.

Yes they do lose there comrades and see terrible things but as we know war is a thoughtless motion, and if the leaders of countries around the world had to take the task on themselves then war would cease to exist.

These soldiers for a better word are hypnotised, brainwashed into thinking they are doing this for their country.
And i would like to add regarding the chicken slaughter, if this was done as a test to show to the recruits that beheading a chicken by biting it's head off in survival situatons that is completely wrong, because there are other humane ways of killing a chicken and if the said chicken was to be eaten the thing would need to be gutted, so a knife would still be needed unless of course they intended to bite the entrails out aswell!!

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Egg

Add an ungrateful country to their stresses, and an ungrateful government, and its a wonder they are so well behaved and only a few incidents happen.

what are they, living in Iraq, supposed to be grateful for ? Why are the British or any other troops in Iraq? Why was Iraq invaded in the first place? there are other videos showing what soldiers do in occupied countries. because they are under a lot of stress they do abominable things. Does it help them to release stress, do they feel better afterwards?
in the case of British soldiers they were encouraged to emulate their superiors' behaviour. Still I am not convinced that such deeds should justified. If that behavior is not "that bad" yet, are we giving them permission to act in even a more horrible and disgusting manner?

[Jacqui D]

The whole Iraq war is just a sham, there were no weapons of mass drstruction, so why is there such a force out there.
The local Iraq people what is left of them that is say they were better under hussein's regieme, perhaps they right.

There is no excuse for soldiers to behave the way they do, what gives them the right to do these things and get away with it.
Then blame it on the coldness of war and what it has done to them mentally.
Because no sane person would carry on the way they behave.
I can not say i'm proud of our British soldiers when they have hearts so cold that they can not recognise what they are doing to other humans and animal life in these there is simply no excuse for there behaviour.

[mattmckill]

Look guys, I've been a Royal Marine Commando for 14 years ( you can google this to find out what Royal Marine Commandos do) I know everyone seems to be disgusted at what thay have seen but guys get a grip, this happens, the only thing that was wrong was the fact that someone filmed it. You need to know what kind of circumstances require an action like this and this was purley to shock the trainnees. I can asure you that these guys are going to see things a lot worse than a chicken losing it's head.

This was purley for shock, nothing more, nothing less. I know joe public may not understand the reason behind such an act however it was carried out as part of a survival trainning lesson.

Just lay off slating the British Forces.

[recallone]

Indeed. Lay off the judging, I'd say.

As a veteran myself, I can tell you that soldiers are not monsters but brave men and women who sincerely believe that they're protecting their fellow countrymen (however errant their commanding officers and politicians may be). You've got to have your head in the right place prior to going into combat...if this is how they communicate it in this particular instance, who are any of us to judge them for it? More importantly, what does the act of judging them do for your vibration? Does it seperate them from you? Does it enforce false illusions? Just something to think about.

[Delphi]

Thanks Matt and Recallone for confirming what I was thinking.

love to all

[Czymra]

Sorry to throw this one in but:

"Killing for peace is like f**king for virginity."

I've met wonderful people that were in the army and I am hard pressed to judge, as a man it's instinctual to want to be brothers in arms, I think, but one can play in the dirt staying out of the army.

That one needs to be prepared for cruel acts and situations by doing stuff like this I can accept easily, but the whole idea of giving up one's independence of thought and pass on judgement to someone higher in the hierarchy is just wrong. If it wasn't for that and all the stereotypical clichés that are thrown about I'd long since be on the ship.