Bush ducks fast from shoes!!!

alyscat · 12-16-2008, 02:05 PM

An interesting way of looking at it from another poster on another forum... Having lived in India in the last 30 years, I'd bet that this person has a better take on the current eastern mindset regarding the "meaning" of the "attack" than we will have, with our western mindset.
alys

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:12:09 -0700
Subject: [phoenix-quest] "You are dirt."

Muntazer al-Zaidi is a hero to millions of Iraqis and middle east
peoples, and to Bush haters everywhere. He is the reporter who threw
his shoes at George W. Bush.

The throwing of the shoes is more than an insult, but it is indeed a
total insult. It is like the Native American insult of touching
without harming an enemy, called "Counting Coup", in which great
honor is vested. Such actions announce a series of thoughts which
break up the psychological picture of power. On the one hand, the
Native American proves he is not afraid of his enemy. But beyond
fear, as in the recent Middle East shoe-throwing incident, he is
also changing the mental framework of power displayed by the whole
enemy camp. Win or lose, the defiled person is discredited. He
can, of course, redeem himself in battle. But in Bush's case, he is
beyond redemption. His armies cannot lead him to be revered or even
respected.

During the Vietnam War, a turning point was ushered in when
protesting monks set fire to themselves. Certainly the US
Government thought it was just a couple of protesters saving "us" the
trouble of finding and killing "them." Bit in a bigger picture, by
giving their own lives rather than cowering in fear, the suicidal
monks changed the mentality of "the people".

Similarly, Mr. al-Zaidi has shown his people and the people of the
world that one need not cower before vermin. He showed the required
lack of fear, and more, he showed his enemy to be not worthy of
assassination, but only of a humiliating insult. In effect, al-Zaidi
told Bush, "You are dirt beneath my feet; you are not worth killing."

The "shoe throwing incident" may not mean anything to tried and true
western accounting methods, as in body counts or barrels of oil. But
it has already opened the minds of millions of people world-wide, who
cannot legitimately be called terrorists, to the fact that life is
not so dear, nor breath so sweet, as to of necessity be purchased by
the selling of one's soul to Bush, Halibirton, Blackwater,
Rothschild, or their ilk.

Love to All,

Cornplanter

12-16-2008, 02:05 PM	#30
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Bush ducks fast from shoes!!! An interesting way of looking at it from another poster on another forum... Having lived in India in the last 30 years, I'd bet that this person has a better take on the current eastern mindset regarding the "meaning" of the "attack" than we will have, with our western mindset. alys Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:12:09 -0700 Subject: [phoenix-quest] "You are dirt." Muntazer al-Zaidi is a hero to millions of Iraqis and middle east peoples, and to Bush haters everywhere. He is the reporter who threw his shoes at George W. Bush. The throwing of the shoes is more than an insult, but it is indeed a total insult. It is like the Native American insult of touching without harming an enemy, called "Counting Coup", in which great honor is vested. Such actions announce a series of thoughts which break up the psychological picture of power. On the one hand, the Native American proves he is not afraid of his enemy. But beyond fear, as in the recent Middle East shoe-throwing incident, he is also changing the mental framework of power displayed by the whole enemy camp. Win or lose, the defiled person is discredited. He can, of course, redeem himself in battle. But in Bush's case, he is beyond redemption. His armies cannot lead him to be revered or even respected. During the Vietnam War, a turning point was ushered in when protesting monks set fire to themselves. Certainly the US Government thought it was just a couple of protesters saving "us" the trouble of finding and killing "them." Bit in a bigger picture, by giving their own lives rather than cowering in fear, the suicidal monks changed the mentality of "the people". Similarly, Mr. al-Zaidi has shown his people and the people of the world that one need not cower before vermin. He showed the required lack of fear, and more, he showed his enemy to be not worthy of assassination, but only of a humiliating insult. In effect, al-Zaidi told Bush, "You are dirt beneath my feet; you are not worth killing." The "shoe throwing incident" may not mean anything to tried and true western accounting methods, as in body counts or barrels of oil. But it has already opened the minds of millions of people world-wide, who cannot legitimately be called terrorists, to the fact that life is not so dear, nor breath so sweet, as to of necessity be purchased by the selling of one's soul to Bush, Halibirton, Blackwater, Rothschild, or their ilk. Love to All, Cornplanter