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Old 12-03-2008, 12:33 PM   #10
Bigleap
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Default Re: The New Age Agenda Unveiled <::A MUST READ!

Magamud.

What is the solution to your quandary? You are beset by all manner of ne're-do-wells from all directions. You can point in any direction and find a conspiracy to keep you repressed. All of human history, according to what you have outlined above, is one misguidance after another. Are you saying there is nothing sacred in the world? Your likely response to this question is to empower yourself through the liberation of your physical body (whatever that may be) and its sojourn here between birth and death. This is the greatest victory that the opposition you so gratefully scorn has over you. How do you prepose that this liberation you seek will come about? I have not seen anything by you that offers a solution to this tyranny that you outline. There is no solution. If what you state is in fact the way things are, then the very tools you could employ are designed for failure. Lucifer is a very powerful force. It is unfortunately greatly misunderstood, as are all the great influences on human evolution. What do you know about Lucifer? What investigations have you made in this direction? There are very few sources of information that can give the right perspective on a question like this. I suggest that Anthroposophy is one of these few sources. The information contained therein is not channeled. It is information that is derived from direct perception. Direct perception that you are capable of attaining yourself. Therefore it cannot be described as being "part of a covert operation to flood the world with occult consciousness to keep people redirected from the real doings of the Power Elite."

This is fundamentally different from any other source that you will ever come across. Here follows my commentary on your last post, to me.

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Our weaknesses have been exploited by the Elite, specifically, to not grow up emotionally so now we have an egocentonic society.
Who are "The Elite", specifically. There are many grown-ups that are ego-centric. In fact all people are ego-centric. That is the point. You ego is the ability you have to make the very rebuttal you just have. Where do you think this ego came from? Do you have any idea? Do you think it is your own creation?

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The history of creating a false reality with misinformed information is hundreds of years old. Our concepts/culture has been given to us covertly to make us think we arrive it on our own or by chance. There is no chance about it! It has been created like an agenda from a corporation.
How do you prepose to arrive at concepts of your own? This is the point I am making. I do not dispute that humanity has been misguided. How do we formulate real concepts? There is no external (exoteric) knowledge that will provide you with these concepts, as they have been, in your own words, "given to us covertly". By this I presume you mean falsely. There are many things given to humanity secretly, but that is not to say those things are necessarily bad.

It is only esoteric (internal) knowledge that we can rely on. This is the word you should be expending your precious energy disseminating. Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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This is known by the elite and they exploit it. They want to create people who are lost in thought and ponder everything... They do not want people who would think critically, who take action.
I think the "elite' would be far happier if we all spent our time following phantoms down rabbit holes. Thinking for yourself and arriving at real conclusions would scare the hell out of them. There are infinite versions of conspiracy. Railing against the wrongs of the world will do nothing to change anything. You can take to the streets, you can burn flags, carry banners, publish articles, make podcasts, do, do, do. This will only play into the very hands that you decry. Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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They have given you an occultic language that has trapped you. You cannot just speak in basic human terms. You are an intellectual who can only speak with other intellectuals in your area of thought.
Here you contradict yourself most eloquently. Basic human terms are the terms "they" have given you. Occult terms are the ones the seek to keep from you. The word "Occult" has unfortunately been given a bad rap. It means nothing other thatn "hidden". YES ! you cry. Hidden by evil power hungry elitists. Not. Hidden from you by way of your own inability to perceive reality. Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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Psychopaths are running this world. They don’t feel, they are incapable of empathy and this is due probably from not growing up emotionally as a culture/species.
Are all the"elite" psychopaths? Are all "psychopaths" elite? I'm not sure what you mean here. Above you said:

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Our weaknesses have been exploited by the Elite, specifically, to not grow up emotionally so now we have an egocentonic society.
Does this mean you & I are "elite"? Also what do you mean when you say "not grow up emotionally"? I think growing up mentally should also enter into the equation, don't you?

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If you knew the water deliverer person was fluoridating your water would you not stop him? Or would you drink it and ponder spiritualy why he is doing this?
Have you tested your drinking water? How much fluoride, specifically, does it contain?

I would ponder spiritually why he is doing this. This would lead to an understanding of the nature of another human being. Why he is not incensed by what I am. If I ran up to him yelling and flailing my arms he would not listen to me. If I understood his motivation I would have a better chance of changing the outcome.

Also I would go down to the hardware store and buy a simple water filter.

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Who wants to fully grasp the meaning of psychopaths killing us? If someone is punching me in the face I am going to stop him first then I will think on it. Prioritize the body first!
Satan's (Ahriman's) greatest wish.

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My response is a natural instinctual human emotion when you see the manipulation/death that self indulgent delusional psychopaths think they can get away with. To deny this with "it does not exist out there" I’m afraid is delusional my friend.
I have never denied that these things do not exist. I have only stated that the solutions do not exist out there. They are to be found within. Try it. Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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An academic metaphysical point. The outer reflection has had thousands of years to gain momentum and codify itself.
You miss the point. I am saying that the internal (esoteric) is not subjective. It is objective. Observable. Try it. Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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Your raw power is in the outside world my friend. Try to pick up a glass of water and then try to use your mind to do telekinesis.
Ahriman's (Satan's) greatest wish.

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Almighty God is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you cant fool all the people all the time.
So now we see the light (what you gonna do? ),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (yeah, yeah, yeah!)
-Bob Nesta Marley
Don't get me wrong. I love Bob as much as the next guy. But did you know that smoking weed can create feelings of paranoia (the feeling that everyone is out to get you).

Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

From the 3 sample pages on Alan Watts site of his books I draw the following conclusion.

Alan Watt sounds like an out of work muso who has smoked too much weed.

I also thought this:

Huh?

Arrive at an esoteric understanding of the world that confronts you.

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