Bush-Cheney Negotiate Resignations (Rumored)

[lehomonuka]

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/36485

Various reports are coming in that Bush and Cheney are negotiating resigning.

One following post says the following:
"U.S. Naval Flag Officers are now negotiating the terms of Bush and Cheney's resignations given the massive crimes of high treason against the American People have now been fully documented"
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...endID=14750906...

My suggestion to citizens is this: Don't Fear, for fear is the rejection of faith. But keep believing that these bums will go and keep pushing for impeachment.

UPDATE:10/2/08 The last I read, Bush remained under a house arrest which allowed him to remain within D.C. area.
Since Bush was already interrogated at Omaha last year by the military, I think he's now finally in serious trouble. Dr Stefan Grossmann has compiled a nearly 2 megabyte "Science" report on the 911 WTC attacks, and the damning evidence is once again made completely public. It's on the net for free! Covers Larry Silverstein's 3.2 Billion $ recovery from insurance, etc..
j martin
also check out http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1223002177

If this is true, Nancy Pelosi CAN declare martial law. As mentioned in other threads here at PA/PC, saying only in regards to the house bill at hand
she can declair national martial law If the president and vise-president
are incapacitated for what ever reason and are unable to fulfill
their duties.
these days are getting weirder and weirder but always keep in mind
"it's only a ride" rinse and repeat
Lynn

[SkyWatcher]

Lehomonuka:
When did this all occur and why hasn't the Media picked-up on this. Have I had my head in economy quicksand? If this is true, then it is a dream come true.
Nancy

[Shechaiyah]

There's got to be a lot more going on than meets the eye.

Nailing those two criminals doesn't even touch the rest of the cream at the top who are NeoCons, Dominionists and eager for war and war-profiteering.

This is just cherry-picking; there is no visible effort to stop the entire imperialistic THRUST behind those two men.

Very strange.

Shech--

[Waterman]

Here is a congressman speaking out about the threat of using martial law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8


They all have to GO!

Waterman

[SkyWatcher]

Waterman,
What do we do at this time? We do not have any local elections this year for our Congressman. Our Senator is Obama (who voted yes)
Ideas?

Nancy

[Trishsgate]

These two and any incoming are just window dressing nothing more. They are chosen to do the bidding for those behind the scenes for power and price. Until you uproot the source nothing much will change hoping and wishing it to go away will not affect it. When identified It will just dwarf or switch names to appear as something wrapped in a more tasty package but at the heart of it greed, turmoil, control, and strife are still in place.

When one begins to see this and take back the power they have given to that source, you may begin to see your own power structure change you and therefore your lives. It starts at the individual level with personal choices also what one needs and what one wants. We feed the machine by our desire to want or crave things that sometimes are far outside our reach therefore we buy into the credit, or overwork oneself to fulfill these cravings further enslaving oneself to the machine. In the end who really reaps the benefits of these cravings, and what do you have left after the game is over.

[Operator]

Finally we know what the 2 space shuttles together are line up for .. ehh ?

[Fredkc]

"U.S. Naval Flag Officers are now negotiating the terms of Bush and Cheney's resignations given the massive crimes of high treason against the American People have now been fully documented"

Ok then...

This is something I have been worried might happen ever since we were back-stabbed by Pelosi, re. the impeachment thing.

Heres the deal:

• One of the FEW unlimited powers the President has (no matter what these jack-asses say) is the power to issue pardons. There is only ONE limitation on this privilidge. That is that neither the President, nor the Vice-President can pardon the other IF they are under impeachment!
• Article II Section 2: "...and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

So heres what they do on January 19, 2009:

1. They call up their buddy the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court... you know, the guy they appointed, and owes them his job. He drives over to the White House.
2. G. W. Bush pardons Dick Cheney for "any and all crimes resulting from his term of office; Jan. 20, 2001 - Jan. 19, 2009"
3. G. W. Bush resigns.
4. Dick Cheney takes the oath of office and becomes President.
5. Dick Cheney pardons G. W. Bush for "any and all crimes resulting from his term of office; Jan. 20, 2001 - Jan. 19, 2009".

January 20, 2009:

1. The next guy (who cares who he is) takes the oath of office.
2. Meanwhile Dick Cheney boards a plane for his old job at Halliburton, now located in the U.A.E.
3. G. W. Bush boards a plane for the 95,000 acre family ranch down in Paraguay.

... and Good Luck getting either of them into a court of law anywhere!

"Sayonara Charlie!"

Besides NO sitting President is EVER going to hold a previous one over for trial, no matter WHAT he's done! Heres why:

1. It would start a political "tit-for-tat" bloodbath between the parties that would last until the govt fell. (not that it isn't headed there already)
2. No Siting President is ever going to do this because of the precedent it sets, since he will then be vulnerable to the same treatment, after his term.

The day Pelosi said, "Impeachment is off the table" these guys must've cracked a big bottle of champaign, because right then it was a done deal!

Clean Getaway!

[lehomonuka]

There is also articals about this at rumormills com and whatitmeans. For sometime this has been an on going "rumor" at fourwind10 for a few weeks now. After coming here to PC/PA and reading some of the things about the socha faal 'disinfo' stuff, I was reluctant/concerned about posting any articals I found at4winds. Because 4winds regularly post her(SF) and I thought it might prejudgest other articals from that site. There at 4winds is a contributor/insider/whistleblower named "casper" who daily posts updates regarding bushs screwing with the people.(this is beginning to seem like a real life tom clancey novel)anyways if you where to go back over the last three or four weeks, he explains how the flag officers can arrest bushyboy. A provost marshal from the world court can also arrest him(for treason and war crimes) and transport him under armed guard so he can't do what Fredkc mentioned in his post this what the Negotiations are about. A reason why it it hasn't been reported mainstream
is the moneychangers want to continue the charade . Bush can threaten exposure to all NWO related stuff.
Casper keeps mentioning something about Nesara(that's why I posted the question what is Nesara in PC/PA's economy section(two different responds)
In the casper post is also mentioned that the whole of congress are to resign due to aiding and abetting. IF any of this IS true, this could be the Oct 7th
web-bot prediction that sets the world in turmoil executive,and the lawmaking branch have to start over from scratch,nesara gets implimented starting a new economic system.Fantasy "maybe", but people the world
over(wheather or not awaken) have been praying for change and
relief.Maybe Spirit is answering our prayers maybe even the 14th
will further acknowledge Spirits love for us
If anything, this possibility sure beats living in dread we been under for so long. ALWAYS remember"The Lord works in mysterious ways"
IF it ain't true (shrug)
Lynn

[NiceGuyEddie]

I too have been following the articles on 4winds for a few weeks at first i thought it was more of an interesting peice of fiction but over the week it seems like a few things fall into place regarding the half past human article for one


There would be confusion about Bush leaving office early for one if he is impeached and then there is a press conference telling the world how the elites have been manipulating the war on terror,false flag attacks and the deaths of millions of innocent people immagine the turmoil and anger this would cause and the months of agony that would follow due to the fact that the people in goverment have betrayed the people
just remember if you put lipstick on an evil dictator there still an evil dictator
Other goverments refuse the doller due to the fact that the doller is an unlawfull monetary system it would be then refused by all
the milatary would be called in to stop angery people roiting in the street
then theres the report by bill and kerry saying that someone who works in the uk needs to leave the uk in a hurry they could be leaving in a hurry to avoid prossecution
then theres the gfol msg that the illuminati would be completely removed by feb 09 (im still waiting on the space ship to confirm this though )
whether my thoughts on this turn out to be true or not its going to be an interesting few days

I bet those shredding machines are working overtime now.

[Fredkc]

Originally Posted by Tuza

I bet those shredding machines are working overtime now.

Nah! Not Cheney's style. Besides, shredding means witnesses.

Cheney will just have himself another accidental fire.

[Sol Invictus]

Originally Posted by Tuza

I bet those shredding machines are working overtime now.

Nah, they'll just fly a few remote control airplanes into the buildings housing the evidence and blame 19 arabs who are still alive and well, chuck in a fire proof passport and blame it all on Iran and cause a world war.

Thats Cheneys style.

[186282]

So if Bush and Cheney were gone... so what.This means nothing in and of itself. We have to implement a complete restucture in all three branches and esp. private industries. Complete dismanteling of the CFR, Trilateral Comission, Federal Reserve, IRS, FEMA, Homeland Security... Rockefeller, Rothchild (Bilderbergers ect.), the U.N. ...
I could go on for pages. These things must happen. I mean "must happen" in the way that they will happen,one way or the other.
The NESARA inplementation would be a meaningful start, but only a begining. And only in America, which would only re-map the original destination - not derail or destroy it.
We cannot only concern ourselves (Americans) with our country. This is a problem for all humanity. An evil plague which has NO place on this Earth.
It could be solved in an instant if MOST of us moved together as one, but more likely will be the few of us that are willing to do what we must for us all. There are many historic analogies of this pricipal that come to mind...

[kaye lambert]

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Nah, they'll just fly a few remote control airplanes into the buildings housing the evidence and blame 19 arabs who are still alive and well, chuck in a fire proof passport and blame it all on Iran and cause a world war.

Thats Cheneys style.

You are so right..they are all evil, and Black as Cheney's heart!"

[Aisuru Chiku]

PLease watch

ZEITGEISTMOVIE.COM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9PulYpjGs

[186282]

Zeitgeist
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...07&hl=en&emb=0
Prev link did not work for me a must see for all who haven't

[lehomonuka]

I've read at a few sites that the nesara ideal is going to become global
changing it gesara

[186282]

could you give me a link for the gesara info you spoke of. I personally think nesara has a familiar stink to it (I personally don't believe at face value anything I hear but certainly look and listen in hopes of using the pieces in our own chess match). However any major fundemental changes or restructuring I believe provide oppertunities to be taken advantage of.
I believe the troop recalls here to the U.S. (for civil unrest and "anti-terrorism") are also to our ulimate atvantage. These are OUR brothers and sisters and they know they have been maniputaed and betrayed - being knowingly exposed to depleted uranium, chemical, and biological weapons... I believe most probably realize by now that the terrorists in Iraq (and elsewhere) are agents of our governments (US UK Israel.. ect). In short I am confident that bringing them here will serve to empower our revolution for it is their revolution as well. Imagine the situation if "they" order gun confiscation and encampment of US citizens - those they send like in the scene from Braveheart when the two opposing armies run toward one another only to meet in greetings of hellos and hugs and then turn as one toward the evil... have faith in our people.

[RSF]

No Pardons for the dialectric duo.
RSF

[conniec818]

greetings to all....
i think the fact that the term martial law is being said where it normally never would be is a sign..a sign to those who know what is going on yet arent in the in...basically telling the other members to take heed,,,also didnt the first vote go someting like 77-24?? another sign perhapes..like the dow plunging 777 points//

[Fredkc]

If they were to resign, it could bring enough public attention to become a true catalyst for change...

The scenario I outlined back on post #4, doesn't need the press at all. In fact all it takes is Bush, Cheney, the Chief Justice, and two witnesses. Could probably do the whole ceremony in 10 minutes tops.

"We The People" should have taken to the streets about this time 2002. It seems the collective wisdom was to pretend it was all just something we were watching on TV, and hope really really hard would go away after an election. We knew better then, we know better now.

Perhaps we'll do better as a group of small collected communities. Small groups tend to do better at remembering that our freedom, survival and happiness are all co-dependent on each person insisting on the best "now" possible.

anyway, it's one of the things that keeps me lookin' up.

Fred

Neither Bush nor Cheney will voluntarily leave (IMO), probably not even when their term is officially over. So, the resignation rumor--I'll believe it when I see it.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

as regards the china russia issue. isnt the new world orders plan to back china as the leaders fo the new world govt structure in some way.. i heard they are gonna move the headquarters of the UN (anew wolrd order organisation) to china.. they are apparently the prefered model of the global elite in hpoe they want he plant run.. which makes me think its a bit weird how people think china are somehow the good guys and they are gonn a save us and let us have out freedom back.. we do it for ourlseves on our own or we dont get our freedom back in my opinion

[Fredkc]

Originally Posted by SoP

Neither Bush nor Cheney will voluntarily leave (IMO), probably not even when their term is officially over. So, the resignation rumor--I'll believe it when I see it.

I hear that a lot, but I'm not so sure.
See, this admin has a passel of nasty guys; the insitu ringleader Cheney is a complete sociopath, but they're just ideologists doin' a job.

Thing is, and this has puzzled me a lot, everyone keeps saying things like "these guys are SO dumb! Look what they've done to this country." and I think there's a flaw in that. They came to do a job. This job never was about any interests of the American People! The job was a merger of goals from two different groups: P.N.A.C., and the oil interests.

They have accomplished 90% of what they went to Washington to do:

• The Iraqi oil contracts which excluded them, no longer exist.
• The US oil companies, Chevron, Conoco, Bp, et al are so close to signing old style "Banana Republic" style contracts there, they can taste it.
• The Taliban, who agreed to, then reneged on the oil pipeline are out of power and the pipeline is built, under the watchful eye of our ambassador, a former(?) employee of Unocal.
• Uncounted precedents set for the behavior of the mythical President/King if the US. Things like the acceptance of signing statements, and all the rest,
• Acceptance of a raft of unconstitutional laws which setup a functional fascist government. No matter that most of these laws will be struck down, that will take decades. Meanwhile.... party on!

What remains really, is to do the same thing to Iran they did to Iraq; depose the reigning government, thereby cancelling all standing oil contracts and leases. a "reset" to the 1920's. And can anyone deny they don't have that all setup merely waiting for the proper excuse?

No they've batted about 800 out of 1000, I'd say.

Meanwhile Cheney's mealticket, Halliburton, has moved to the U.A.E. a sort of "no man's land" for skullduggery in the M.E.

Also, the Bush family has purchased 95,000 acres in Paraguay. This "hobby ranch" is adjacent to a 170,000 acre one owned by long-time friend of Bush41, Rev. Moon. (Who knew Bush was a closet moonie?) This property also happens to sit over top of the world's largest natural water aquifer! Don't forget, "Water is the next oil!"

No, the longer they stick around, after November, the more dangerous things become for all of them. Besides, they knew damned well exactly what kind of "feces storm in a deep deep hole" they were creating for the US Govt, and it's people, and just how long it'd take to dig out. They didn't care!!

So, the only reason I can come up with, for people as geo-politically aware as this bunch to not care what they were creating is this :
They intended all along to get in, "Git 'er done!" and get outa dodge!

Let the next poor schmuck get the headaches, and take the heat for declaring martial law, just to keep the lid on. Like I said here I think they fully intend to have a "pardon orgy" and boggie post haste!

Now, "They" is a bit vague. so... if someone would like to "name" just who is running them, I can try to expand from there.

Addendum:
In case theres anyone who still doesn't believe it wasn't all about the oil,

In June of this year, Andrew Kramer, writing in The New York Times, broke the story that the world's oil giants, "Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP ... along with Chevron and a number of smaller oil companies" were "in talks with Iraq's Oil Ministry for no-bid contracts to service Iraq's largest fields." Subsequently, the Times went on to report that "A group of American advisers led by a small State Department team played an integral part in drawing up contracts between the Iraqi government and five major Western oil companies ... " The Times asserted that the "disclosure" was "the first confirmation of direct involvement by the Bush administration in deals to open Iraq's oil to commercial development and is likely to stoke criticism."

In reality, there had long been ample evidence of deep involvement between the Bush administration, foreign firms and Iraq's Oil Ministry. The Times and other major media outlets also failed to expose the major financial ties between the military occupation in Iraq and the same oil giants. In fact, each of the oil giants named in the original New York Times piece - Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total, BP, and Chevron - regularly shows up on the Pentagon's payroll. In fact, last year, the five firms took home more than $4.1 billion from the Pentagon - with Shell leading the way with $2.1 billion. [source]

Shell, is not a US corporation, I know. But it is interesting thay were chosen because in the original PNAC documents outlining the proposed toppling of governments in Iraq & Iran, Shell was said to be the ideal choice as a non-US corporation to share in the spoils. It was thought that letting a major European corporation in on the deal was a great way to keep Europe from interfering.

The other one was seeing to it the new govt in Iraq was kept weak, and disorganized so the level of civil unrest would remian high. This served to both keep out interlopers, but helped guarantee a "need" for US troops to remain there a long time. (Cagey, and damned cynical, but it has worked quite well.)